Day 2: Still weepy

[LittleClarkie]

Anyone else?

[wisteria]

1. Oh, gosh, yes and double yes. It is just awful.

I feel ok for a while, then "what could have been" floods in. I get angry all over again about 04 and I feel so bad this could not have been a better outcome.
We mis-out and this country misses out. No one running now is as good as Kerry. That is it pure and simple. He has it all.

This is so hard, so very hard.

[LittleClarkie]

2. I'm doing the "I'm fine.... I'm fine... I'M NOT FINE!" thing I did in 2004

right after he lost.

Like somebody died.

Again.

But damn it, if people thought we were going to go away if he didn't run, they have another thing coming!

[wisteria]

3. Exactly! I like your explaination too. n/t

[_dynamicdems]

10. Damn straight we're not going away and we will remain KERRYCRATS!

We might vote for someone else (or not) but we are still first and foremost Kerry's loyal supporters, ready to fight with him on every and any issue.

[k j]

14. Go here and read this

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/26/81618/6804

We have work to do! ;-)

[ginnyinWI]

4. I'm doing okay

I'm just spending more time reflecting on what a good guy he's been--and how he's done everything in such a classy way. The way he decided not to run was in character for him--making the smart and realistic choice and refocusing on what he can do in the Senate as a senior-statesman. It's comforting to see him so consistently sincere, dedicated, honest and true. :loveya:

As for the presidential race, I've lost all interest--for now anyway. Who cares--I'm gonna keep on watching my favorite Senator. :)

[JanusAscending]

5. Same here gals!

I think I'm in a state of shock, like after I lost my husband! One good thing though. I just read that his fundraisers are all going over to Obama's team. At least they aren't going to Hillary's camp! What do you all think about that? DC

[whometense]

15. Me too.

My personal grief is mixed with a genuine relief for him and his family that they won't have to endure another round. The cynicism and spite that greeted his announcement reinforced my feeling that he'd made the right decision.

But I am completely uninterested in the presidential race. As of now, I'll go and vote (for whom, I have no clue right now), but won't donate or volunteer - except for Kerry's senate campaign and PAC, of course.

[beachmom]

16. Yep -- I feel the same way as you about '08

I will vote in my first ever presidential primary, but I'm going to take my time to decide, and I doubt I will become a "supporter" of any of them. It'll just be who is the least bad choice. Well, Dodd is good, but is he viable? I'm sure I will vote for one of the viable candidates, which we will know who they are by January next year.

[k j]

18. same here

I feel relief for John and Teresa and family. Also, utterly detached from the primary battles. Which is a personal relief I wasn't counting on. Now I won't feel guilty for focusing on the issues I want to focus on.

Edited to add: Reading Marjorie G's "beacon on the hill" comments, StoryTeller's post and TayTay's post helped get to relief and acceptance!

[ginnyinWI]

23. yes--I'm happy for them being spared more pain.

Teresa would have soldiered on--but I'm glad she won't have to now. And the girls. And JK will still have plenty that he can do to effect change.

You guys in MA are going to make sure he gets reelected, right? ;)

[TayTay]

24. No problemo.

I will volunteer to chair for my town. (Which is red and which has never, ever, ever voted for that commie. Sorry, Lowell Sun joke.) But you never know, this could be the election in which he carries the town. (Ah, okay he won when he was unopposed. But that doesn't count.)

[ginnyinWI]

28. one ray of hope for me as far as 2008 goes

Would be if Gore would decide to run. I don't think he's got the money now, so this may just be a pipe dream. A Gore-Kerry ticket would make me pretty happy!

[Noisy Democrat]

6. Oh yeah

But also feeling very hopeful that we'll still see more of JK from the Senate, and that's the most important thing to me. If he were to retire from public life, *that* would be far more painful. But yeah, I'm definitely not over this yet.

[LittleClarkie]

7. At least we can remind folks that it wasn't about his presidential aspirations

and never was. He's not in the Senate fighting because he wants the 2008 nomination. No one can claim that now.

[Island Blue]

8. I'm not really weepy any more.

I'm sure I will be again when the real campaign kicks into gear and I see someone else assume the position that should rightfully belong to JK.

Yesterday, I started thinking about things a little differently. I was thinking about how sad we all are, and how awful this is for us, and then I thought about the 25 US soldiers who lost their lives on Saturday. It hit me suddenly that WE haven't lost anything - THEY have lost everything. The lives of their families and friends will never be the same. I believe in Senator Kerry when he says that his new mission in life is to make sure this war ends as soon as possible. I know that he doesn't want to look at the new wall (or whatever memorial that will be built to honor the war dead) and feel that he didn't do everything in his power to limit the numbers of names on it.

I know that it will battle for his voice to be heard, but I do believe he, as a United States Senator, can shout louder than he could if he was a candidate for POTUS.

So I hope we will all mourn for however long it takes, and then get back in the game and help "our" Senator out in whatever way possible - he still needs "his bloggers". I'm just thankful that I have all of you guys to lean on, hopefully that will make this a bit less painful than in '04.

[Democrafty]

22. Really good points.

Especially "WE haven't lost anything - THEY have lost everything." You are so right.

For me, JK's announcement Wednesday was really a wakeup call - if we don't stop obsessing over one election every four years, at the expense of everything else, we are screwed. We will get different versions of this administration over and over again.

So my personal disappointment is huge, but I'm trying to just put that aside and be brave and think about all the people who are worse off right now because of our messed-up system of presidential politics.

I wrote about this at wljk - how I'm a little shocked that this "project" we've sort of taken on isn't going to reach some kind of natural resolution in '08, but that's life. We still have JK fighting for our values, and we still have a really amazing community of citizens here. Supporting JK means very little if it's only about one or two elections, right? We have to try to follow JK's example and make our country better in every way we can, not just in the ways we want to.

[LittleClarkie]

35. To be honest, part of mine is hormones

"enhancing" what I already feel

[_dynamicdems]

9. Yeah, weepy and angry.

One minute it's tears and then next Hellfire. Then I'm weepy again.

[MBS]

11. yes, me, too

and I haven't been able to sleep for two days, either.
In the last month, a beloved relative, a good friend, and a favorite colleague have all died, and it's been hard. And I'm at a very scary part of my career, and that's made for more than a few anxious moments. But I've been able to sleep.

With the JK decision, I can't sleep, and the tears still come.
I am really truly grieving. There is no one else , no one of his caliber in the running for the presidency.

[beachmom]

12. Yes. And sometimes I have these really pathetic thoughts like

Will he EVER come to Virginia again (not NoVa but down here)? I was looking forward to him coming to my neck of the woods during the campaign, but now why would he? It may be small, but that makes me sad.

Edit: and what makes me sadder is that he DID come here back in November to Chesapeake. And I didn't know, and missed him.

[europegirl4jfk]

20. Don't you think he will campaign again for other Dems in 2008?

He did it before the 2006 election, and let's assume he didn't do it only because he wanted to run for president again. So why shouldn't he do it again for the next election? Don't give up hope. And I still hope we will have another meet-up in Boston one day.

[beachmom]

21. Probably only the Northern Virginian (DC suburbs) area

That is over 3 hours away. And these appearances are usually during the week. But maybe he'll come to Norfolk some time -- at least in 2002 they had a real Swift Boat there that he drove. So there are some nice Navy connections there. As I said -- these thoughts are a little pathetic, just missing the concept of a national campaign, where he might come visit our area with lots of C-SPAN coverage, too. It's okay. It's small in the scope of things.

[wisteria]

29. I don't think he will be coming my way either. The Dem's in my area

are pathetic and stuck in the Clinton era. The majority of the area is Republican.

[sandnsea]

41. Mine are the complete opposite

Isn't that funny? I think Oregon will go for Edwards if Obama doesn't pan out to be significantly left of Hillary. Of course, our primary is so late it doesn't matter. But we could possibly influence No. Cal if they move their primary up.

[rockymountaindem]

13. Honestly, not really

We've got to keep going with whatever comes up in the future. This big push to end the Iraq war will be very important, methinks. Besides which, I always thought his chances of running were 50/50 so my heart wasn't set on it in the first places, as much as I hoped he would make the decision to jump in.

[europegirl4jfk]

17. Not really; I feel somehow even relieved

I know that I come from a totally different position than all of you. Of course, as in 2004, I badly want a Democrat to win in '08. And with Kerry not running I will be able to watch all the contenders with the same unbiased view I had in 2003/2004. I know it's a bit selfish but it takes a lot of pressure from me. Please don't misunderstand me, I'm still very sad that Kerry isn't president and I think I will never feel as sad again as I did when he lost in 2004. But I think he can do a lot of good things without going through this perverted race that an American presidential campaign is in my eyes. I'm glad he doesn't have to suffer through this and I'm glad we don't have to suffer through this. I'm very hopeful that a Democrat can win in 2008, and I'm convinced that John Kerry will do everything he can to make this Democratic Presidency a successful one, as he stated in his speech on the Senate floor:

"I don’t want the next President to find that he or she has inherited a nation still divided and a policy destined to end as Vietnam did, in a bitter or sad legacy. I intend to devote all my efforts and energies over the next 2 years, not to the race for the Presidency for myself but for doing whatever I can to ensure that the next President can take the oath with a reasonable prospect of success for him or her–for the United States."

When I discovered JK in 2003 and learned about his life, my heart went out to him. For me he is a man with a mission to end all unjust wars and reconcile the world, and that's what he is doing since Vietnam. Wherever and however he does it, is not important to me. That's the reason why I don't really care about the presidency so much, but why I care about John Kerry.

[whometense]

19. That was wonderful.

And american presidential politics are indeed perverted.

[MarjorieG]

26. Believing for the best helps. Might actually lose weight.

I feel like I've been weepy for two years over what has happened to this country and what could have been different. In limbo, waiting to have to go through the painful uphill all over again. I really wanted this presidency for decades, for all the observant and smart opinions all of you post.

Given how dirty and vicious the competition, and that is just the Dems, we would not even have a rebuilding of his reputation, setting the record straight.

The progressives have truly missed the boat on him. Without facing another loss, or his prevention of their new king, fresh start, maybe they will be free to see the campaign for what it was, successful beyond expectations and advancing our goals. Not always possible one time from a negative branding of our party. That will become a more popular view in history. His history. We never would have had the turnaround of opinion we hoped for, as this election will be dirtier from both sides.

Knowing his skills and motives will be more fairly seen, that he can follow his own moral compass, with conviction, makes me feel better for all concerned. His tasks will be great, at great resistance, and people will see all the sides of the difficulty, cheering him on. The challenges will be great.

And I really think he sees positives, being his own man, Kerry being Kerry, as I always say. Off the presidential campaign trail, having a wonderful life with family who adore him, advancing his own unconflicted and uncompromised instincts, accommodating only when he sees the need. I have no doubt he will work very hard for all issues he knows and cares about. Ending Iraq, and prevetning geo-political catastrophe will take everything all of us can believe in and do to help.

For me, I gained 70 lbs from the start of the 2003 campaign, through the depression of the result still lingering. To lose weight, and live positively for the future, are one in the same. My size 10 clothes are hanging there, and haven't been replaced except for baggy, cheap linen. Now I see positives for the world, for Senator John Kerry and his contributions, and my politics can be less angst-filled as well without a sense of pre-ordained doom. For issues I care about, election reform, with less investment in getting greatness as a president.

So many of us have been tied to fairness, and putting forth the effort he deserves. The blogosphere has made the problem and correction seem so insurmountable at times.

I can lose weight knowing there is a less certain chance I will pack it back on. Staying fit and trim are so hard, that I need at least a fighting chance of success before I start. If that rings true, let's all of us Kerry on.

[wisteria]

33. Wonderful words and observations. Oh, and good luck on the weight loss.

I was packing on the weight after I stopped smoking and what really worked for me was exercise. Although, I hate it. And, I have to watch the carbs and fats.

[BlueIris]

25. On Day 3...now that I've had 48 hours to think, I've stabilized

a little. In no small way, I think he's made the only good decision he can make re: the future; his future, our future, our country's future.

I'm surprised I'm not worse. In fact, I'm surprised I'm not comatose with rage and fear. There is so much more work to do know than there was when I began supporting him, and I have so much less to do it with. But if there's anything I learned from him it's how to perservere, even when things appear bleak, even hopeless. So there's that.

I spent most of Thursday in bed, though, and I refuse to feel guilty about it.

[wisteria]

27. That is ok, I bought two bottles of wine and drank them both very quickly.

I felt a need to be numb and out of it on Wednesday. Thursday, I didn't feel real good- guess it was the wine, but the truth sunk in. Today, I am more of a realist and less of a dreamer and I can see the task he faced trying to run again. The party and the media- they were both going to do all they could to see he didn't make it. Even the best PR in the world would not be able to trump the deck that was stacked against him.
It is so very, very sad. I would have fought and defending him unrelentingly.

[sandnsea]

30. Learning to live without hope

Especially after Harold Ford Jr made his rounds yesterday. Think I'm crazy if you want, I don't care. The DLC wing is going to work hard to reframe Democrats as politics for the investor class and will support war for oil to that end. There was a window of hope there with John & Teresa, I don't see it with anybody else. I don't think it's going to come again in my lifetime.

[MBS]

31. yes, it's so clear to me this whole fight is about DLC vs the Dem. soul

As has been said here many times, that's why Kerry has had such a hard time with the Powers That Be, and why it is so important to me that his voice be heard.

[MarjorieG]

36. True, media, Dems, corporate have same tentacles.

I sound like one of the huber West Side crazies when I lump everything together and down with everyone. But, frankly, this corporate coziness, DLC, corporate media, taking Bush I off the hook for the 80's, all of it, made winning last time very uphill. And we almost did it.

That we can't trust our party, at all, and I hate to talk like that, very disturbing.

[BlueIris]

50. I confess that I also blame the fake progressives,

the "I can scream real loud so I must be right, have valid opinion-suggestions and a candidate who can win" idiots, or "lefty freepers," as we sometimes call them. Especially the "why hasn't John Kerry cured cancer yet?" morons. Thank you, Howard Dean, for helping to create these ignorant freaks, who know nothing about real history, real politics, REAL progressivism, or SANITY. And are assholes like you, with sometimes pretty websites.

[wisteria]

32. We will not be rid of the DLC until we are rid of the Clinton's and I

realize some people don't want to hear me say that. If Hillary crashes and burns in 08, than they are done and our party can move on, if not, it is more of what you describe. I hope this is the Clinton's last stand, much like Custer's at the Alamo.

[MBS]

56. I agree n't

[MarjorieG]

34. The shift is accurate.

Part of my relief was knowing that the entire campaign spotlight would be to take out Kerry, for a variety of silly and sinister reasons, including the shift. Harold is definitely still working for a place within the party as Carville intended, a more conservative embrace for either a reality of what has overtaken the country and still need to be considered to win, or a real desire to go there.

The DLC used to be a nod to business, and okay to counter the giveaway programs label (that we all know actually worked and keeping many of us aflot today). That Clinton favored going into Iraq by advising Blair to join, and likes playing with powerful big boys, who knows what Clinton really thinks works. I am one to say that chumminess with Murdoch is as much about if they have to go with a Dem, might as well be with those who make deals.

A spotlight will be used to undermine Kerry's honorable Senate positions, but will be used less to take him totally out. He might be in a better position, for longer, as truthteller. The campaign lies would have been worse this time, given the storylines we've heard. I can't imagine he really wanted that ugliness again.

Maybe Obama can be the anti-Hillary, and either survive or create room for someone else.

[k j]

38. My 1st impulse

was anger at the party for not, from my point of view, getting over their issues with Kerry's run and just backing the strongest, best, smartest horse. I have little patience for people who hold on to grudges when the country is in this sort of shape and we need our best people out front, to hell with personal ambition. But that kind of thinking was never going to fly with Bill3&Co.

If I had to pick the ticket (not what I would want, but what I THINK it might look like) I say it'll be Hillary/Obama.

Color me not on fire. I'll be back working in the shadows somewhere on another issue if that happens.

[blm]

49. Heard some years ago that the internal struggle in DC was ClintonDems v KennedyDems.

I always hoped it was just idle chatter - but after reading Clinton's book and watching their actions over the last years, I know now that it is VERY TRUE.

[Firespirit]

37. I weep for the likely loss of HIS idealism.

One of his distinguishing traits has been that he could forgive and forget even when someone personally wronged him (Webb, for example). He's been a team player, and has never lost faith that people are good at heart, despite seeing the worst side of humanity.

I'd rather not explain my specific reasons in public, because they involve repeating some things that he and others said in confidence, but I just don't think he feels that anymore. He's not deluded about what was done to him, let's just say.

I don't believe myself that people are naturally good, but I never really have, so it's more of a reinforcement of what was already there. It makes me really sad to see someone who HAS felt that have that faith shaken or destroyed, though.

[TayTay]

39. I think this applies to politics as well

Attaining success in Hollywood is like climbing a gigantic mountain of cow flop, in order to pluck one perfect rose from the summit. And you find when you've made that hideous climb . . . you've lost the sense of smell.

Harlan Ellison.

[k j]

40. Not deluded...

He's not alone. I'm right on the edge of that myself. In this past year alone, I've seen it happen to my brother, my oldest sister, my husband and myself. The answer has been to turn inward to family and protect the love and respect we have for each other. I consider it nothing but a loss for others who can't see past their own fear, or more likely, their own tighly held positions and power to make room for a person of rare intellect and compassion. Many don't want to be number two, three, four or five, they want to be "the one." Star power that doesn't have diddly to so with our very real connection to universe's stardust, something we all are born with, but precious few maintain.

Scapegoating is evil. Bottom line, John Kerry was scapegoated. I feel as pissed about that as I do for the members of my family.


Edited to add: BUT! I'll be damned if I'm going to let *anyone* tamper with my ability to love. Nobody has the power to take that away from me without my permission. If I have to go inward for awhile, so be it. Whatever it takes to protect the stardust. John Kerry's will be protected as well. As was Al Gore's.

[MarjorieG]

43. Hurt but a grown-up.

I am sure John Kerry was terrificially hurt that the party didn't rally around his beating expectations in 2004, that they didn't exactly help during the camapign. Hillary started so soon after pronoungate to take him out, then add McAuliffe.

That Kerry was shafted by the party, took his energy and money on the 2006 campaign trail, keeping Hillary safe, pouncing when appropriate, had to be a piling on. All the while the rest of the country goes around with petitions, good intentions, debate, on something that is a done deal in 2008, maybe 2004.

I also think the bigger field the better for Bill3, who is further closing in support. Obama will be helped by people thinking he is viable as stand alone, taking the money, the oxygen, Steven Spielberg's fundraiser, plus Bill3's team to help run interference, building up a viable VP. While we run in circles.

The media wants reliability on corporate, their storylines, non-discussion of issues. That's it.

John Kerry's idealism is far from broken. He has never been naive, just hopeful. His fight now to change the country's direction from the Senate gives him the freedom of expression he hasn't had for years. As a man with convictions, he needs to live by his own voice. Let's help him get heard.

The history will take care of itself, and, unfortunately, we can't help rewrite it. I hope someone does one day, to make up for all the inaccurate blather written by our pundits and partisans.

KJ, sweetie, we need another hug to take us through full circle.

[k j]

44. A great big hug

:pals: :hug: :grouphug:
and a megaphone to shout the truth!

[Inuca]

47. What a terribly sad thing to say...

I should stop reading all this, I locked myself in my office, but I have to go home, and can't get out with red eyes!

[k j]

48. Red Eyes = Fierce Heart

:patriot:

[YvonneCa]

51. Me, too...

...Firespirit. So I posted this on his blog:

Senator Kerry,

I've found it difficult to post during the last couple of days...accepting your 2008 decision has been tough. I'm sure , for you, the decision was even tougher. My sadness is that it feels like the country has lost you as it's President without ever knowing all the efforts and sacrifices you have made in the last 3 -4 years on our behalf.


But the short answer to your request for continued support is YES...of course, sir. :) This IS a campaign for our country. We MUST get this right for our children, for our troops in Iraq, and for the future.

There is a 'greatness' in you, Senator, that I see...that the people in this community see...that millions of Americans saw in 2004. That greatness is still there. Where it will take you is unclear, but I have complete confidence that it continues to guide your leadership.

I have always trusted your judgement on the issues and I will continue to do so. You have inspired many of us here, me included, to be better citizens...for our country's sake...and that has made a profound difference in my life.

Thank you for your fight on our behalf. You absolutely have my continued support.


YvonneCa

[_dynamicdems]

59. That is beautiful.

Perfect. I'm sure it will mean a lot to him to read those words.

[YvonneCa]

67. Thank you, DD...

...his words and leadership have meant a lot to me during these past six years.:patriot:

[wisteria]

52. Oh, I don't know what to say, How sad when a belief is shattered

and the light of idealism is replaced with the darkness of cynicism.

[_dynamicdems]

62. But he also knows that there are people out here who really understand all

he is and all he has done for this country. He knows we will never give up the fight and we will never stop believing in him. We will never betray him and he knows that too. We all love him and Teresa and in our hearts they have been and always will be our First Family.

[beachmom]

53. Okay, this is breaking my heart. I don't understand how this is worse

than 2004. I mean -- BushCo is about as bad as it gets. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Talk about the ultimate betrayal. You're telling me that that didn't crush that idealism, but the reaction to pronoungate did? Well, perhaps it was that he knew the GOP was the enemy but didn't expect "friendly fire" from his own side.

I hope that this is temporary. You basically said that he had an Anne Frank point of view, and now he doesn't. We don't know for sure if Anne retained that POV once she was in a concentration camp and slowly died from hunger and disease, but I've always hoped she did.

And, I really hope that this is a blip that when the wounds begin to heal, that idealism returns in full. Maybe when the Iraq War is over it will.

[politicasista]

54. What is sad about all this

is that the joke is being perceived as his downfall. Like Rove won again. All he did was just drop a prounoun. Others have said things far more offensive without getting called on it.

Bad enough I posted about Kerry not running and a Biden supporter was like it's good he isn't cause botched the joke he told about the troops was going to be brought up. So, I spent time correcting her, but no response yet. :(

[wisteria]

60. Just wait until Biden puts his foot in his mouth which he already has on several occasions.

The difference is they wanted to find something to take down Kerry. You know that it is a lie and the media and some Democrats went along with the lie. What goes around comes around. If it wasn't the joke, it would have been something else. You hold the winning card though, because your card is the card of truth.

[politicasista]

64. True. But they don't understand the corporate media

They think what happened to Kerry won't happen to anyone else.

[MarjorieG]

55. They had no trouble letting him take back congress.

And with the thanks of knives stabbing, leap on pronoungate, and Rahm claims credit belonging to Kerry, as well as Dean. This stranglehold of Bill's has me ranting, and my hubby doesn't understand where it's coming from. At least it will be a Dem, but I've been venting not different enough.

I see Bill as liking the power, money, playing with the big boys he never dreamt of from the trailer, and not that far away from the neo-cons on the mideast point of view. I've been saying we don't know what we'd get with Hillary, but I'm afraid we do...

[wisteria]

61. That is why I hope they crash and burn. It would be the best thing for our party. n/t

[_dynamicdems]

63. I agree. There is a poison in the Democratic Party.

The only thing that will save the party is to rid it of these scum-sucking, corrupt, rotten, lousy bastards.

[MBS]

57. I have no doubt he was screwed by the bottom-feeders

in his own party. Not being privy to the details, I can guess the general drift of who the bad guys might be. All I can say is : these people are despicable and none of them deserve to be anywhere near the White House.
I'm happy to join in any effort to keep them out. I really am as angry at the Democratic-perpetrators right now as I am at the Bushies.
You're closer to the situation than we are, but viewing things from the outside, everything I can see now suggests to me his fire and idealism are in pretty good working order. It's just his faith in certain people that must have been shaken. Totally understandable. Even more reason we need to make it clear how much WE support him and admire what he's doing.

[_dynamicdems]

58. That is just absolutely heart-wrenching.

It is so painful to read your post. At this point, I don't trust anyone but Senator Kerry. To know that he has been betrayed like he has is almost more than I can stand. I'll never forgive or forget. The one thing that has keep coming back to me these past two days is the smug look on Hillary Clinton's face when she said that Kerry owed the troops an apology. How that makes me feel is truly, truly not fit to disclose in a public forum.

[Firespirit]

65. I know.

I haven't watched politics for nearly as long as some have, but for the time that I have watched it, what has been done to him is without a doubt the lowest, most disgusting, scum-sucking, filthy, betrayal of humanity that I have ever seen. It's worse than the GOP turning on its own. It's worse than Bush, Cheney, and Rove making Libby the scapegoat -- because JK did nothing evil, only good things. Libby is useful now, but he deserved what he got. Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell deserved to be left in the cold by the party and have their political futures ruined.

John didn't deserve the treatment he got from people he worked for all his life. He hosted a fundraiser for HER in Boston and raised a quarter of a million for her. Some thanks he got.

I honestly don't care if she is the nominee. I won't vote for her. If it takes another Republican presidency to destroy THOSE people's influence and credibility, so be it. I will work to defeat them using honorable means first, but if that fails, I am officially saying "fuck it."

Kerry wouldn't, but then, he's a better person than I could ever be.

[_dynamicdems]

66. Me too.

From what I've read, most of Kerry's big backers went with Obama. Maybe they feel the same way we do about scum-sucking filth.

I'll never vote for Hillary Clinton either and I've been voting for Democrats all my life. In all these years this is the most disgusting display of dirty tricks and backstabbing I've ever seen. Your right, what makes this so vile is that it's a betrayal of a good man. If it were just nasty pols trashing each other, it wouldn't matter. This is so damn unfair. He's been honorable and decent and he certainly does not deserve this. If it comes down to Hillary and McCain, I'll write John Kerry's name on my ballot in huge, bold letters like John Hancock.

Kerry has been used badly and he is one of the most decent human beings on the planet. He's worked so tirelessly for what's right. Thank God he has Teresa. Something tells me she's his rock right now.

Hillary Clinton isn't worth the scrapings from the bottom of John Kerry's shoes. We can take consolation in the fact that she herself realizes this. And I truly believe that what goes around comes around. Payback is a bitch.

I'm urging everyone I know to go to johnkerry.com and leave the senator a message saying how much they appreciate all he has done and is doing. So many people tell me what a great leader he is and how great a president he would have made. That's nice, but they should be telling HIM!

[politicasista]

42. Ok

Although I am now feeling guilty about posting about him not running again at another site again and defending the botched joke. Sigh. :(

[k j]

45. No Guilt!

no guilt, politicasista! You've been a good, solid supporter of JK for a long time!

[politicasista]

46. Thanks

I am just angry about 2004 all over again because people never got to see the Kerrys for who they are instead bought into the Kool-Aid media (DLC) spin that ONLY a Clinton, a populist southerner, southern governor is electable.