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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:52 AM
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Where does the soul come from?
Where does the soul come from?

There are many theories, many ideals and beliefs around the world. Christianity holds to the belief that God created the Universe, man and from Adam's rib, woman. Science believes in the theory of evolution, from sludge to ape to human. Metaphysics actually combines these two theories.

In the beginning there was the Great Spirit. The essence of everything in the universe. This essence wanted to expand it's self and with a little touch of the Divine energy, create a physical mass. The GreatSpirit happy with what it had done, wanted to expand again. With Divine intervention, the Big Bang occurred. Galaxies were created and life formed on the planets. The evolution of spiritual beings began, but that evolution started from Divine touch and intervention.

The reason "God" is in all things, is because the Divine used a part of itself to create all things. I alone am not the Goddess, you are not the God. But you and I and all things in and around the universe, seen and unseen make up with the Divine is. We are all part of each other, connected, intertwined and alike.

Through out the universe life progressed in varying stages and speeds. As this evolutionary process moved forward and many Star or Soul Groups formed. We have come to know these groups as:
The Octorians
The Cyrians
The Polarians
The Antarians
The Pleiadians

Each of these groups or civilizations brought a specific function into the universe and eventually to the Earth for the spiritual development and advancement of our civilization...cont'd

http://www.paganspath.com/meta/begin.htm


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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:56 PM
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1. this all sounds very much like the story of creation
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 09:57 PM by Faye
as told through Sacred Geometry. I've always believed in what is described here as the Beginning/Evolution - up to the point where they start talking about Lemurians/Atlanteans - they also go in depth with this in the Flower of Life books I've read....but something about them (Lemurian/Atlantian, etc) I just can't grasp without a lot of skeptcism :(
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:12 PM
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2. Perhaps Because So Much Of It Is Based On Pscychism
and taking the stories told on "blind faith".

I am a firm believer in remaining a skeptic until one has Reasoned Faith" (direct experience and conirmation).
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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:28 PM
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3. What do you define as a Soul?
Is it thought, reason, feeling, memory, or all ?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:44 PM
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4. Most educated Christians believe that God created the universe
using evolution as the method.

I think that many educated people have no problem with simultaneous acceptance of scientific evolution and a spiritual Creator.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:16 AM
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5. would-be oligarchs invented it
and made sure our language had no competing word to describe the non-physical attributes of individuals.
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jobendorfer Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:28 PM
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6. Keats: "Call the world if you Please "The Vale of Soul-Making"
A la Hillman, Berry, Watkins, Lopez-Pedrazza et al: I see the
soul as that which deepens events into experiences. The
soul as a metaphorical way of seeing that creates a middle
ground between the world of matter and the world of spirit.
The Mundus Imaginalis. A hard place to visit; even harder
to stay there. But I try.

"You could not find the ends of the soul though you
travelled every way, so deep is its logos." -- Heraclitus


J.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:49 PM
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7. what is a "soul"?
if I may ask.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 06:13 PM
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8. I like the Michael Teachings.
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 06:17 PM by liberalnurse
Essentially, we come from the Tao.....and the soul evolves over the centuries....learning lessons.


CASTING AND SOUL CONNECTIONS

The ninth, tenth and eleventh rows on the chart are headed up with the title "CASTING". According to Michael, souls are fragments of a larger unit called the "Entity". Entire Entities are "cast" (formed) from the infinite eternal absolute, the Creator which Michael calls the "Tao". Each Entity is made up of between one thousand and twelve hundred fragments. Seven Entities are cast at the same time, forming a yet larger unit called the "Cadre". The seven Entities in the Cadre are numbered from one to seven. When Entities fragment into souls for the purpose of incarnation, they do so in groups of seven. These groups are called "Cadences", and they too are numbered from one to seven. The seven souls in each Cadence are also numbered from one to seven, and this is their Position. Here we have the explanation of the three columns under the CASTING heading on the chart. The first row, "ENTITY", is the designated number of the Entity within its Cadre. The second row, "CADENCE", is the designated number of the Cadence within its Entity. The third row, "POSITION", is the designated position of the fragment within its Cadence. Like Role, Casting does not change from lifetime to lifetime. After its learning on the physical plane is complete, the soul continues its evolution on the astral, mental and causal planes. The evolution consists of the reuniting and reintegration of the Cadence, the Entity and the Cadre, in that order. (Michael says that they are a reunited Entity, and that they consist of Warrior and King fragments.)




http://www.michaelteachings.com/welcome.html

THE SOUL AGES

Michael says the soul goes through seven "Ages" in its evolution back to the creator, in sequential reincarnations. The Age of a person's soul determines the maturity of their perceptions, the depth of their personality, the focus of their interests, the nature of their ethics, the degree of their common sense, and the breadth of their understanding of the world and of their relationships. However, older souls are not "better" than younger souls any more than seniors are better than teenagers — they are just older. This is not unlike the maturation of people during their lives — hence the names of the Ages. In the following explanation of each Age, the number in parentheses is the approximate percentage of the world population in that Age.


More: Scroll down for soul age descriptions.


http://www.michaelteachings.com/overview_michael_wittmeyer.html


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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:45 PM
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9. here's a question.....where is our mind located?
as far as souls evolving, we are all reverting to our prototypes....interesting journey
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:15 PM
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10. The mind does not evolve with the soul....
It is separate and unique to the physical body the soul resides with each life experience. The life activity of the mind and physical body contribute information to the soul as lessons. Some lessons are repeated as needed to progress.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:48 AM
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11. Bhardo. The immortal soul resides in Bhardo between incarnations. n/t
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Chalco Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:37 AM
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12. My doc told me a great story about the soul.
One day I told him about my daughter being able to describe what it was like in the womb. She remembered having trouble getting out.

So he proceeded to tell me about his father, who was a physician, also. My doc said that his father was a brilliant man who was very prescient. Here's what his father remembered. He remember what it was like as a soul before he entered the body that became him. The best he could verbalize about it and remember this is a conscious being talking about another type of existence. He existed on a shelf along with lots of other souls. They were just there awaiting the right womb to transfer to. At some point he transferred into the neonate that became him. I don't recall at what point he transferred, meaning when during the pregnancy or whether it was during the birth process.

I found this conversation very comforting at the time.
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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:08 PM
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13. Once upon a time frame,
we hung out together such as we do here on this forum board.
Imagine, if you will, the eyes closed sleep state: universally able to leap tall buildings (or osmose through them if that's our desire), live underwater, converse with ALL regrdless of language, time travel intergalactically instantaneously, no time line without our consent, visit with the deceased, revelatory experiences are common to all in this 'dream' state.
So we're hanging out and one of us say's, "I wonder what it would feel like to have an abortion, or how it would feel to be physically handicapped." Then chet45 say's, "I'd be the doctor." dazzler then volunteers to be the unborn. dick-tater offers to be the poppa. Well-ida has always had a desire to be in a position of antagonism (past life she was a stepford wife).
The stage is set for an inter-generational play.
We then 'choose' the parents and peer groups that will lead us to the culminating point of this scenario and voila, here we are living it, with only vague memories of the story line we collectively put into play.
'Break a leg'.
Play your part with feeling.
Bouquets after the play.
Where we 'came' from is the soul.

We live this human life to fulfill the desires of a much larger 'I'
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justsomegirl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:11 AM
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14. From Source
Soul comes from Source.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:24 PM
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15. I think it always was
There was never a beginning to it.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 06:40 AM
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16. MEMPHIS!! EVERYbody knows THAT!
Sam and Dave, Rufus Thomas, Booker T and The MGs, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, The Bar-Kays, The Staple Singers and on and on!

Sorry, Dover and everyone else! I have been resisting the urge to post this since the thread first appeared--and I finally weakened. Please go ahead with the discussion and I will behave.

:evilgrin:
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 02:03 AM
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17. Better to ask, "where do we come from" and work backwards
LOL

After all, we are 'extensions' of our soul. Souls which project into a progression of energy density.... becoming matter.
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