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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 12:10 PM
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I need a hug
I had a huge fight with my boyfriend last night about Obama. It was about the General Clark thing.

I told him I'm voting for Obama in Nov but that doesn't mean I can't question some of the things he does and says. He all but called me racist and questioned my loyalty to the dem party.

:cry:

This morning we barely spoke, and now this faith-based crap.

I don't know how much more of this I can take.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 12:34 PM
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1. This whole thing is so emotionally charged and difficult.
They've really got us at each-others throats this time, don't they?

Here is a hug for you and hoping things come back together nicely between you two.

:hug:

Open discussion on all of this is very important.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 12:42 PM
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2. I know what you're going through
This whole election cycle is making life difficult and dividing instead of uniting people. For a long time, I think my husband supported Obama. He was quiet about it because it would lead to a ferocious rant on my part. Now, I think he's seen the light. Stand your ground, Beaverhausen. A life lived without principles is a life wasted.

((((hugs))) :hug:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 01:38 PM
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3. I am so sorry -
:hug: this has been a long, drawn out process. I hope that the two of you can get past this, but you do need to ask him if he supports every politician that has a D by their name. The D doesn't always mean that they are a "good Democrat" - Zell Miller and Lieberbutt come to mind.

:hug:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 06:55 PM
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5. Hug sent
:hug:

Someone who claims to "love" you, calling you a racist?

I wonder if the problems are deeper than politics...?

You don't deserve that, and unless this society starts supporting each other rather than trying to drive each other down, we're all gonna be on suicide watch.

:hug:
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:22 AM
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7. I was thinking the same thing!
You my dear have been "thrown under the bus" for blind loyalty to the "O"
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 03:42 PM
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8. Huh?????
to whom are you addressing this?
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 08:14 PM
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11. I was agreeing with you
and stating that the Obama cult claimed another victim in the young lady...
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 08:00 PM
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6. Here. Have two, they're small.
:hug: :hug:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:10 PM
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9. damn
Sorry to hear that.

:hug:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:31 PM
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10. Thanks everyone. Things are better today
We agreed that we simply can't talk about Obama and neither of us are happy about it. We both want the best for our country, and we are both very passionate people. We also are passionate about each other and while we aren't happy we don't agree on these issues, it's best for our relationship to try to let them alone.

I'm so glad I have this little corner to retreat to.

:grouphug:
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 09:43 PM
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12. I'm late, as usual.
But here's a hug anyway. :hug:

I'm glad you guys made up. I hate fights.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-04-08 09:13 PM
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16. Here's Another For You... Glad Things Are Better For You...
:hug: and :hi:

I rarely post anymore but think of "times gone by" a lot. I'm more cynical than I ever thought I would be and have pretty much expunged myself from all politics and news for some time now. Just thought I would give a peek on this day, the 4th of July. Unfortunately the day holds little meaning to me since this country doesn't seem like the America I once knew.

Yes, I AM nothing more than a quitter! I just couldn't take it anymore!

Kudos to all of you who have held strong!



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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-05-08 12:56 PM
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17. Hi Chici!
Edited on Sat Jul-05-08 12:57 PM by Andrea
Come on over to Old Elm Tree. You can discuss anything you want - politics or not. Everyone is welcome.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:20 PM
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18. Hey Andrea... As You Can See, My Political Input Is Quite Measly And I'm Not Sure
what it's going to take to re-kindle my interest. I haven't watched ANY MSM in about 6 weeks to 2 months. There was a time when I posted many many times a day, now I check in here maybe once a week, and that's only recently. I have signed up "over there" but I'm experiencing feelings of remorse and it's difficult to jump back in. Some would call it depression but that's not what it is. I'm too weary and fed up with what I see going on with the endless nit-picking and back stabbing. I peeked today to see if anything had changed with MSM, but if anything it's worse! I did hear someone talking about Joe Biden as a serious VP pick and that WOULD pull me back as he was my 2nd choice. We shall see.

I just check in here from time to time and see that many are still hanging around. It's nice to see. Guess I need more time. I was considering putting a question out about how people are feeling about Obama these days since it seems from what I've heard today that he's moving more to the right. I don't want to sit here and read hundreds of blogs, but I am curious. Since I have no dog in the fight I wouldn't have to answer questions. Not sure what I'm going to do yet.

But thanks for the invite, I know you guys are really a GREAT BUNCH, but I'm just dipping my toes back into the waters for now. I could go on about my feelings, but I'm sure many are feeling the same way as I.

Keep kicking it up!!!


:kick: :loveya: ALL!
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:15 AM
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20. You're right
Many, many people are feeling the same as you. I've been seeing a lot of worry over Obama's hard right turn - and justifiably so in my opinion. There are a lot of people trying to figure out what to do. We've all been through a lot. It has been heartbreaking, frustrating and frightening. Each of us needs to do whatever we can/need to do to heal from this and move forward. Take of yourself, Chici!

:pals:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:15 PM
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21. You Too Andrea... Maybe Soon A Light Will Shine... In The Meantime
I'll try to give myself a push because I've ALWAYS tried to be part of THE SOLUTION! Answers just aren't there for now.

BTW, I made a mistake... I thought you were talking about EENR, but I see you DO HAVE an Old Elm Tree. I'll check it out soon, and THANKS AGAIN my friend!

:yourock:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-03-08 12:01 AM
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13. I know. I have several friendships that have broken up over this. The demand is that
when I say I will vote for Obama, they insist I do it enthusiastically.It took a lot to make myself resoved to vote for Obama"anyway" but appartently for some it isn't enough. Now they want me to be quiet about policy positions as well. :hug:
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 03:27 PM
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22. My friends make no such demands
Sometimes, being crazy has its advantages. :)

Also, my friends are smart enough to realize they can't follow me into the voting booth, let alone my own head. If yours (and those of anyone reading here) are not...well, fuck 'em. But first, let 'em know they are not helping Barack by behaving so foolishly.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-03-08 07:34 PM
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14. You'll always have hugs from me!
It might sound kind of funny, but I love it when people argue politics. It means they care about something bigger than themselves.

Good luck. Take a day and try to be good to each other.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-04-08 07:21 PM
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15. I'm glad you are standing up for yourself.
Here is a hug.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:45 PM
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19. Beav !!!!!
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 08:45 PM by Catchawave
:hug:

I'm married to a Republican. There, feel better? :D

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