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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:22 PM
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The government created HIV in order to wipe out black people...
good lord, the arguments I'm hearing on this topic.

How can people be so damned ignorant?

How would HIV make a good weapon - it takes years to kill. Why would we spend so much on searching for vaccines, cures and treatments if we created it? How did we invent a retrovirus in the 1950s or earlier? GAAH!

Sorry, I had to scream.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:28 PM
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1. Did you know that
HIV was really created/spread by contaminated Polio vaccine? Thats another one that floats around this site.
I have *never* seen a place where "vaccine" is treated as a dirty word so often.
Besides its all a part of the plan of us Evul Scientists who suppress all novel work and don't want to cure anything. Cause we are all in it for the money. Oh yeah, and beccause we are all sadists who like to torture animals.... :eyes:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:32 PM
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2. Yes, I've heard that here, too
it's just insane.

And then people use the Tuskegee experiment as "evidence" for their claims. It's ridiculous - the government did something bad, therefore, they invented HIV.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:28 PM
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3. How can people be so damned ignorant?
AIDS woo exists at the nexus of pharma woo, minority/persecuted-group woo, and anti-government woo, and uses the logic and arguments of all three:

* AIDS exists so that Big Pharma can make money from drugs. HIV doesn't cause AIDS, either.

* AIDS was created to kill blacks / gays / etc, and the proof is other things the government has done to harm these groups.

* AIDS is a tool of the illuminati / international bankers / etc to keep the poor countries of the world in line.

How did we invent a retrovirus in the 1950s or earlier?

There are people who think the Nazis had moon bases in the 1940s. Probably some of the same people who think we faked the moon landings. No, it doesn't make any sense.

How would HIV make a good weapon - it takes years to kill.

I suppose that depends on the objectives. You could make the case (well, you shouldn't, make the case, but you could if you were a wingnut) that it's actually a highly effective weapon for decimating the population in certain poverty-stricken-yet-resource-rich nations whilst only causing a manageable health problems in wealthier nations with better sex education and access to contraceptives.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:51 PM
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4. That's odd, seeing that HIV has been documented since the 1930s
Did the US government travel back in time 20 years from the 1950s as well? Those crazy CIA guys.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:49 AM
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13. You don't know anything
They didn't travel back in time 20 years; that would be foolish to suggest.

Instead, they confiscated all calendars and replaced them with mock-ups to create the impression that HIV first appeared 20 years before they engineered it.


Honestly, if you can't see something as obvious as this, there's no way you'll figure out the big picture.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:51 PM
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5. Some organized group of ranters must've picked this one up
again because I've been seeing it all over the place in the past week.

I've taken to the "You BOUGHT that? BWAHAHAHAH!!!!" technique. If they ask for an explanation, they'll get it, complete with the state of technology as late as 1989, when the epidemic was full blown, and the various species of monkey reservoirs in Africa.

Gullible twits who don't ask why deserve only the derision.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:40 PM
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6. Duh! Everyone knows God made AIDS to punish homosexuals.
:banghead:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:55 PM
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7. I thought High School gym class
was for that? :shrug:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:15 AM
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8. Actually that punished a lot of people besides gays.
I wasn't athletic so I was presumed to be gay.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:42 AM
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9. Baloney. Everyone knows that HIV was created...
when monkey tissue contaminated the polio vaccine. Oh and all cancer is because of that, too. That or candida "bacteria".

I think the JOOZ did it all, if you want the complete nutzo PCT.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:33 AM
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10. I'm getting tired of the JOOz did it theories
Because it's boring. Whatever happened to the Illuminati? Now THERE'S a secret group of world overlords for you!
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:14 AM
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11. Check the dungeon
The Illuminati are still in business. If you want a job with them, it looks like crop-spraying experience would be useful.

It never ceases to depress me that JOOO-based PCTs are so common on a supposedly liberal discussion site. Maybe some of these slimeballs will disappear after November.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:50 AM
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14. "Maybe some of these slimeballs will disappear after November"
If they do, then others will blame their disappearance on the Jooz.


And who can blame them?!?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:27 PM
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16. Hmm. Count yourself lucky
I don't beleive Kewpie Doll is kosher (or at least Kosher for Passover).
Better watch yerself in a couple of weeks
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:54 AM
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15. Actually, the JOOz are in charge of the Illuminati.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:40 PM
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18. Now that just doesn't make any sense
Unless I'm grossly misreading that groundbreaking treatise by Shea/Wilson.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:38 AM
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12. No
Its the anthrax VIRUS! Amazing again how people do not know the difference between bacteria, viri and other microorganisms. Thats High School Science!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:31 PM
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17. eh. it was also caused by polio vaccine trials in the congo
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:44 PM by enki23
HIV is a myth. it was created by government scientists to kill poor people. mercury in your vaccines. memories of mercury in vaccines. it's caused by rumors of mercury. rumors of vaccines. tuna, and poor sanitation. it doesn't really exist. you can cure it with massive doses of vitamins and various botanicals. turmeric tablets. ear candling. it's caused by AZT. no it isn't, it's caused by radiation. by bad chakra alignment. cell phones. fnord. bad energy flow. subluxations cause AIDS. it's an autoimmune syndrome that results from a a type IV hypersensitivity reaction to latex. it's spread by the use of condoms.

HIV is a myth that was created by poor white aliens to kill evil black government vaccine scientists who wear mercury-infused condoms and use cell phones with bad energy flow.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:07 PM
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19. LOL!
I would like to nominate this for a Skeptics DUzy!
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:43 AM
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20. I hear AID's causes Autism.
And why the hell would old white men give AIDs to black people? Old white men LOVE minority women. Oh, they don't ever marry them, or let the public see them, but it's a well known phenomena. Have you ever read Malcolm X's biography...he talks about it quit a bit...how old white men loved to hire black prositutes to beat them up (And by that I mean beat up the white guys...they liked being dominated by black women). It's crazy.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:56 AM
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21. I mentioned this to a coworker several days ago
I said something like 'It's back again since it seems to go in cycles.' She said "In your country." She's from Trinidad and apparently it's a well accepted "fact" there. She's not one of those since she has a scientific clue.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:14 PM
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22. a lot of these stories
a lot of these stories were old Soviet disinformation campaigns. The KGB loved to plant stories in favorite 3d World newspapers, especially in Latin America and in India. Then other 3d World papers would pick them up: "According to the Indian "Patriot"....." Some of these stories just never died-- AIDs created by the CIA, Jonestown a CIA plot, KAL 007 a CIA spy mission, etc, etc...
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