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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:39 AM
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I'm starting to think we should stop paying so much attention to Palin
I just have a feeling that all this attention, even negative attention, feeds her power.

I feel like it distracts us all from what's really going on, something more important. Even though I've been as hooked on the coverage of her as anyone, I think I'm going to stop.

Anybody else getting a feeling like that?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:56 AM
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1. agreed, 100%
I've been getting the same feeling. She was a gimmick, a blip on the screen, a desperate attempt to blunt the trend toward Obama/Biden. Time to put her on the big IGNORE.

I decided it was time to pull out all my stops. I gave my first donation to Obama yesterday. It was embarrassingly small (I'm a middle-aged student, 5 of the last 7 years unemployed after a long career in high tech), so I was waiting for when I felt my donation would have maximum impact.

I got an email this morning. Obama got more *new* contributors in the last 24 hours than at any point in his campaign. I'm taking that as a statement about the rethuglican convention...and as a good sign.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:36 AM
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2. Well. It's only been a week and she IS the most recent example
of the train wreck that is the Republican Party. It would be hard NOT to talk about what a complete and total failure this choice was in so many ways.

I think the issues facing the country will service as the most important for both campaigns shortly and Palin will not be the boost the RWingers had hoped for.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:57 AM
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3. I noticed Hillary is doing this
and I think it is a good move. (She's only going to speak against McCain, not Palin.)

FYI: There's a thread on the Greatest page requesting a Palin rumor group which proposes to move all of the speculative threads to the background. They won't be gone, but they won't be forefront either. I hope Skinner approves.

I'm sure all this attention will eventually die down. Selecting this unknown was such a shock, and then we all had to discover who she is and what she stands for...and then we were unpleasantly shocked again!

(However, I admit I still would like to see the occassional discussion about her astrological chart.):blush:
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:34 PM
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14. Here's a site that is talking about her speech,
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:52 PM
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15. Thanks! I'll check it out /nt
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:30 AM
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4. Don't feed the beasts.
That has been my impression since shortly after hearing about her.
It is almost like she is being used as a sheild to deflect energy and attention from mcsame and other issues.
Sending light and energy to her would be like pouring it into a blackhole.She would use it to just increase her mass which would in turn give her the ability to draw in even more energy.
A self replicating cycle,so to speak.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:08 AM
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5. I kept waking up last night with her on my mind.
:scared::scared:

:wtf:





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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:23 AM
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6. I am feeling hooked as well like I did like during 9/11
I felt compelled to watch the news constantly not just the day of but days after. I had to force myself to stop although long before that it was only the same things being reported over and over. When I finally noticed this feeling of compulsion I had to stop. It is things like this that make me wonder if they have a way of using other's emotions in some metaphysical way.

whenever I feel the urge to pay extra attention to palin I am going to reiki my brain until the compulsion is gone!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:41 AM
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7. I ddn't watch a second of the RNC, and I'm also...
having her pop into my mind at odd times. It's awful. :(

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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:16 AM
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8. I'm getting that feeling as well...
Since they announced her, I've been glued to DU's GD and GD-P forums, and I haven't gone in either for months (I can't stand all the vitriol, usually). My emotions have been a roller coaster, alternating between gleeful (at such a misstep) and angry, and I feel off balance and drained of energy. My sleep cycles have been disturbed (I slept from 10 pm until 11 am this morning and woke up feeling awful and weak), and she has been popping up in my dreams.

I am going to turn my focus elsewhere - I think that whatever this woman is, and whatever forces are behind her, feed on this kind of thing. It's been hard - I am a very emotional person, and as I posted awhile ago, the nomination was like a kick in the face. But no more - back to the light!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:18 AM
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9. At our peril, is the feeling I get
but perhaps in a 'metephysical' sense - I agree with you. I wish we could 'ignore' her away. I think she's dangerous.
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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:37 AM
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10. There really is a fine line...
You can't completely "ignore" her away, but you can't make her your top focus. Obama is running against McCain, not Palin, and that's where the focus should be.

I've been writing a story about negative thoughtforms who feed on attention and strong emotion - especially fear. Once the main character realizes their existence, she can't unlearn it, so she has to somehow find a way to integrate her knowledge without surrendering to fear or obssession. So maybe you have to be aware of what's there, but not dwell on it. It's like how some Christians fear demons and the devil so much that it becomes their top focus, and therefore they give their fears too much power.

I also read a book several years ago about a teenager who was sent to visit some family in a lonely beach town, and was bored until she stumbled across a local lighthouse haunting. She became obsessed with "solving the mystery", and that gave the spirit immense power. The incidents increased to an alarming point where people were in danger of being harmed. Once she learned to put it back in its proper place - a curious oddity not worth so much trouble and energy - the haunting dissipated back to its original benign state of the occasional echoing footsteps or odd thump in the night.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:49 PM
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16. Thoughtforms, Egregores & Tulpas (oh my!)
Thoughtforms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtform

Egregores (group minds)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore

Tulpa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa

Just in case all of ya'll haven't come across these concepts :)

Things like these IMO should not be ignored but does not require panic and worry. People CAN disconnect from group thoughtforms like this palin-compulsion. You just need to be aware that sometimes it really isn't just your thoughts and emotions going into overwhelm and remembering to use some techniques to clear yourself. Smudge, prayer, requesting aid from your Higher Power or other positive negativity fighting being like Archangel Michael, Reiki, aura sweeping, cord cutting, breathing in energy/colored light to transmute the connection, affirmations, etc.

I have sent Reiki into myself since my post yesterday and am already feeling a big difference. As when I am working on a bad habit whenever the urge pops up or I catch myself in the act I stop and send Reiki to whatever the source(s) of the issue are and also directing it to the area of my brain it located at. I do not know why that works since I don't know the actual area of the brain it is located but apparently the intention that Reiki go there is enough to work. So far the longer I have had a habit (and the more stubborn I am) the longer it takes for this to work throughly but eventually it does get the job done :) It has healed me of excessive self-criticism. If I make a dumb mistake I don't mentally chew myself out any more. I can simply regret I made the mistake, figure out what if anything I can do to avoid doing it again, and let it go. OK if it was a BIG mistake I will cuss and maybe shed a few tears of disappointment and/or frustration but after I still am able let it go.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:13 PM
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17. I'm just curious ...
if you care to share .. when did you become Reiki? What did you do before that? Were you involved in other energy methods? Personally, I was attuned in 2002. I had practiced nutritional principles since 1980, and homeopathy from 1992. I didn't have any prior experience with energy work, other than homeopathy. Like I said, I'm just curious about your experiences as you are the #1 advocate for Reiki here. :D

should have posted: hijack warning *
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:46 AM
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18. My first Reiki attunement was 2005
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 02:59 AM by Shallah
I had experienced other types energy healing performed on me before that and took part in an Angel group where we learned to channel energy. Accupuncture, Mari-El (a Reiki off-shoot from Ethel Lombardi one of the 1st American Reiki masters), polarity therapy. I had said for years I would get attuned but never could find the $ and a master someone I trusted to point me to.

Well, I am a empathic and was having some odd things happening connected to the mother of a friend that freaked me out especially after my non-metapysical Mom had some weird experiences as well. This lead me to looking up info on psychic self-defence which led me to several books that recommeded Reiki especially for empaths. After that decided to look around again to see if someone taught near me. No luck but I did find a yahoogroup run by reiki masters who offered levels I and II for free. I couldn't believe it at first that they would do this for free but boy did the attunement take!

Like many people I noticed that I became more sensitive to energy including emotions after the attunement yet it bothered me less. I would direct Reiki into my shielding and started using the symbols to wonderful effect even though Reiki ones aren't supposed to be able to use symbols :P :bounce: Well everyone including those who say it could not work also say Reiki can do no harm so I figured why not try and see what happens since it can't hurt :shrug: I think since my attunement sensitized me further it allowed me to get more control of my personal energy in general as it allowed me to feel the subtle energies more than ever. Before I mostly could only pick up the overwhelming negativity emitted by people.

I experimented using the energy and found that if I focused my intentions that I would have more of an effect on myself. For example if one of my cats scratched me leaping from my lap or I dropped something on my foot I would try focusing healing on only one side of the area. Usually I would notice that side healing slightly faster than the other. I admit if it was really sore I would just heal the whole thing. I did notice that the sooner after the wounding I treated the faster I healed. If I immediately Reiki-ed myself after a bug bite it would not itch for more than a few minutes but if I waited it hardly helped. I spilt boiling water a few times on myself and between Reiki and cold water from the tap I barely had a pink spot on my hand to show I dumped half a cup of water right from the kettle on myself. Now it hurt like heck - the only time Reiki ever hurt - to treat my burn as if i was feeling all the pain of healing in one go. this is the only time Reiki ever has hurt me but it was woth it to not have to deal with the days or weeks of pain and blistering. I just sent reiki until the pain went away.

So far in my experience Reiki does not work so fast on older injuries. I still have my share of aches & pains and emotional stuff but it has helped them. At least everything is doing better since I was attuned. As I said above one of the most dramatic changes was it helped me stop the excessive self-criticims. I was constantly chewing myself out, calling myself the insults I had ever been given and more. Some people are extra-punative and take their Stuff out on others. I was always intrapunatitive. Anyways I remembered how some people with bad habits would snap elastics on their wrist to break that train of thought and behavior trying to break their habit. Well I wanted to get out of the self-punishment biz so I started giving myself a bit of Reiki every time I said something mean to myself. I reminded myself that I would not tolerate a friend being insulted like this so I should not put up with it myself. Within a few weeks I noticed a slight lessening intensity, a wee bit less emotional charge. It took a long time, around a year, for it to clear out my head of all that negative programming, but then it took years to put that negative programming in there and creat that level of emotional charge. I belive that most of my life I have been my family's emotional processor. I would express the fear and anxiety and self-contempt for everyone esp. my older sister so I had extra stuff to deal with! Did you ever see the comic of a man being berated by his boss, who goes home and yells at his wife, who chews out their child who then kicks the dog? Well I didn't kick anyone but myself. It is sooooo nice to not have those repetitive thoughts any more :)
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:10 AM
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19. I am lazy
that is another reason to love Reiki. I am curious about magick, and crystals and all the other wonderful things out there but I am lazy. With Reiki all I have to do is put my hands on someone to help them. All I have to do is think to focus and send Reiki to the other side of the world instantly or to the past or future. My only tool is my mind and Reiki is pure power source that effortlessly passes through me.

My mother is attuned and keeps thinking it needs to be more complex than it is. No it is not, just put your hand on the sore spot. Heck you can put it on your big toe and reiki will still help your headache! Reiki flows where it is needed without effort. Even using focus to direct it is not really worth being called an effort. I do not need to stand and *T*H*I*N*K*!!!! at it straining my brain like I am trying to life an elephant with my pinky. I simply focus at the beginning thinking or saying something like 'reiki on my neck and shoulders', use a symbol or two and then relax letting Reiki do it's thing.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:25 AM
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20. Why didn't *I* think of that??!!
Shallah, I love your idea of using Reiki on those habits. I have been a bit depressed lately and was simply going with it. Because of this, I was late paying two bills and I am really not like that. These kinds of mistakes eat me up - literally. I can feel the acid rushes in my stomach area from the worry.

I am going to do this so I don't get into that negative feedback loop of beating and tearing myself up.

I am also sure this will help my depression.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:42 PM
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22. I hope it works as good for you as it did me :-)
Before this I had tried for years to get out of the habit of adding self-insult to injury with little progress. I did not self-treat for long after each incident, not even a minute most of the time but the effect accumulated. It gradually reduced the habit and the emotional charge behind it until it was gone. I am using this technqiue on other heavier issues and it does help but the more a habit is part of a coping mechanisim the more healing is needed to get to the root as well symptom.

Remember to treat yourself as you would have your best friends treated by others. See if you can't come up with some silly insult to say when you flub to help jolt yourself out of the rut of habit. I would say something like "how dare you make a mistake like a normal human being! How dare you be perfectly NORMAL like this!" While I do try to be the best person that I can I am not perfect. I don't glow in the dark or walk on water so why should I expect to never flub up, never loose my temper, step on other's toes and otherwise act like every other human being on the planet? I guess what I am trying to say is remember while it is nice to AIM for perfection don't expect it and then beat yourself up when it doesn't happen. It only exacerbates the heck out of a situation.

I am a big beliver in feeling one's feelings but there is a difference between allowing my feelings to flow and getting caught up in a negative cycle. I have been getting caught in a depressive one the past week or so myself :/ I need to get into the habit of self treating each time I come up out of it long enough to remember that there are things I can do to help instead of just waiting for it to wear itself out.

BTW this technique also works on worry wart type stress. My poor Mom is a good one for awfulizing and I learned from her as she surely learned from her parents. Anyhow one thing I was especially good at was freaking out over being late. I figured treating small issues would free up my energy to treat bigger issues so I started treating myself when ever I got stuck in traffic. Instead of sitting there fretting myself into a froth over something I had no control I would send reiki to myself at every traffic light I was stuck at. It didn't stop over night but over time the anxiety reduced, the knotting of my innards stopped, and while I don't enjoy getting stuck in traffic I accept that sometimes it will happen. It sucks, I feel what emotions rise up which are a tiny fraction of the anxiety and frusteration I felt before, and then I can let it go.
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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:39 PM
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23. Thanks for the links!
The title of my story is, actually, Tulpa. I came across the concept in the old Reader's Digest publication Mysteries of the Unexplained, and it intrigued me. The idea for my story came to me in a dream a few years ago, and I've made it my summer project to finally write it all down.

For this weekend, I asked my husband to refrain from watching political news and making any mention of the name Palin in our household, and I've spent time listening to music and catching up on chores, art projects, and my writing, which has been sadly neglected this past week. Now the apartment is clean, everything is in order, and I'm feeling pretty good. The break was very helpful for clearing my mind. When I caught myself ruminating, I visualized a shield around my mind - sort of a trap door slamming shut so negative energy could no longer get through - which was helpful. I will definitely be doing some kind of clearing soon, to get rid of any lingering bad energies. :-)
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:27 PM
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11. You may like this reading & find you're not the only one thinking like that
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:27 PM
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12. Me too-- absolutely. It's distracting us and it doesn't serve any
purpose, except to totally freak me out and I don't want to go there...

I did a DU search on how many times her name has been used and came up with 3,200.
That's ridiculous... in a little over a week's time???


Cheers,

a.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:22 PM
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13. The fact that they aren't letting her be interviewed by the media in effect
takes her out of the spotlight. Concentrating on McCain is a better game plan.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:50 AM
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21. I can say the same thing for ALL negative forces.
I don't mean that we shouldn't pay enough attention to be aware. Awareness is key.

The kind of attention that needs to stop is the constant FOCUS on whatever it is we'd like to see "sink" from public consciousness. Palin is one example.

Repeatedly talking about Palin keeps attention and energy focused on her.

Other examples:

Repeatedly watching the MSM, and then talking about how irritating they are, keeps the MSM surrounded by energy. If more people quit watching, and discussing, they wouldn't carry the impact they do.

Focusing on what we fear, imo, keeps it going and actually feeds it. Increases the chances that what we fear will come to pass.

Do be aware. Don't feed it with your focus.

My 2 cents. ;)

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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:41 PM
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24. That's what I was trying to say above...
but you said it much more succinctly and articulately. :)
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