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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:11 PM
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Predictions by Michelle Whitedove for the elections.
Okay I'll put up the links.

http://www.michellewhitedove.com/Blog-PresidentialPredictionsUpdate2008.php

http://www.michellewhitedove.com/Blog-HillaryClinton.php

In a nutshell she predicts Hillary will be the candidate with John Edwards as her Vice President. She is another psychic who has predicted that Dick Cheney might die.

Well I think there is some wishful thinking her on her part as well as she seems to be a Clinton supporter. Now it is possible that the party nabobs may nominate Hillary instead of Obama because they are afraid he won't get the white vote in a lot places.

Perhaps maybe this is where psychics should be trying to tune into, the conventions, not the voters.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:52 PM
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1. I wonder if Cheney
would fake his death? Just something that occurred to me as I started reading Condi's prediction.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:37 AM
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2. Why not? I think that Ken Lay is still alive somewhere
It is not out of the realm of these neo-cons to do something like this--and Cheney certainly has the means to pull this off.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:33 AM
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3. I believe that Ken Lay is dead. Deader than a doornail.
While your conspiracy theory is intriguing, I think that the application of Occam's Razor would depict that more likely, he had been murdered, rather than spirited off to live somewhere in exile.

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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:02 PM
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11. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's my intuitive feeling
You may get visions, but I have things that I just "know" and this is one of them. From the moment I heard of his alleged heart attack something screamed at me "he's not dead". So please give me as much respect for my intuition as I have for your visions. :hi:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:45 PM
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13. I had the same intuitive reaction. I don't believe he's dead, either. nt
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:46 PM
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14. Fine. Whatever.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 07:54 PM by PinkTiger
I certainly didn't mean to disparage your feelings.
People are sure sensitive around here.
But I can tell that it is time for me to go somewhere else for awhile. The vibes here stink for me.
So, adios amigos. I may lurk, but I have posted my last.


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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:45 PM
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15. Unfortunately
We can't trust anything the MSM tells us anymore. I share your doubts about Ken Lay's death.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:58 AM
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19. I, too, think Ken Lay is living it up somewhere. Maybe in
Paraguay. Or maybe he has had facial surgery to change his looks so he can blend in anywhere.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:17 AM
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7. I agree with you
Dubai, here he comes!
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:28 AM
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4. For what my opinion is worth,
Condoleezza Rice will not be a VP candidate. And completely aside from whether or not I'm right about this, every time I see her speaking it looks as if she's lying. Listen to the quavering quality of her voice.

And despite a lot of wishful thinking, Hillary Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:15 AM
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5. Bound to be worth more than Whitedove predictions
She's great at finding buried people, but not so great at election predictions--

Below are my radio predictions:

From 2006

http://www.michellewhitedove.com/Blog-AlanColmes11-1-07.php

Virginia Senate
George Allen (R) - incumbent WILL WIN
Jim Webb (D) - challenger

Missouri Senate:
Jim Talent (R) - incumbent WILL WIN
Claire McCaskill (D) - challenger

Tennessee Senate: This will be a very close race
Bob Corker, (R) - challenger WILL WIN
Rep. Harold Ford Jr., - incumbent (D)

New Jersey Senate
Robert Menendez (D) - incumbent
Thomas Kean (R) - challenger WILL WIN


Pennsylvania Senate:
Rick Santorum (R) - incumbent
Bob Casey Jr. (D) - challenger WILL WIN

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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 08:48 AM
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6. A coin flip would have done better
Yep, she does not have a good record at predicting elections.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:55 AM
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18. Condi stammers all the time.
She's so hesitant, it's quite obvious she's lying all the time.

She NEVER speaks in a relaxed fashion.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:08 AM
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8. Sometimes there's a lot of uncritical
acceptance "predictions" from a person claiming to be psychic. That's what disturbs me. And a lot of explaining away the vastly wrong predictions by saying that the person foresaw only one of several possibilities or some other excuse, doesn't cut it for me.

I've been paying attention to this stuff for a good forty-five years now, and it's rather interesting how certain predictions are made over and over again, usually about some disaster, like an earthquake, or some improbable thing like Atlantis and Lemuria appearing. Or aliens landing on the front lawn of the White House. And while all these things make amusing reading, seeing what sort of track record someone has can be helpful in deciding how much credence to give to any set of predictions. And again, exercising a little judgment and common sense, not wishful thinking.

Something else about the current political scene, the Hillary vs. Barack thing: Obama will go into the convention with a clear advantage of delegates over Clinton, although probably without the number needed to be assured the nomination on the first ballot. And, if what I saw this past Saturday at the Kansas Congressional District Convention where the actual delegates to the Democratic National Convention were selected, the Obama supporters will not acquiesce to a Clinton nomination. If the party elders try to force her as the nominee, there will be open revolt on their hands.

Clinton's remaining in the campaign this long is so divisive, and so hurts the chances of Obama's being elected in November that I can't understand what she and her advisers and her supporters are thinking. If the delegate numbers were reversed, you can be sure Obama would have gracefully stepped aside quite a while ago, as did all the other men who were running at the outset.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:57 AM
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9. I don't think that is true.
Also, the numbers aren't that far apart. This is really unprecedented.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 12:54 PM
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10. I hope you are right. I have no dog in this fight myself, but
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 12:57 PM by Cleita
I'm getting sick and tired of my vote not counting. Let the will of the people, who voted in the primaries, stand. It's happened to me several times since the neo-cons inserted themselves in power.

Also the Atlantis and Lemuria predictions started with Edgar Cayce. I don't know if these psychics are deliberately poaching these predictions from him or if they have tuned into his predictions unknowingly, but I know many of them bring this up.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:08 PM
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12. Except for a personal bias, considering some of the negative statements that have been made by
the Obama campaign,there is absolutely no basis on which to make this statement "If the delegate numbers were reversed, you can be sure Obama would have gracefully stepped aside quite a while ago, as did all the other men who were running at the outset." And at leat one of those men did not step aside willingly and. And there is a basis to say so.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:40 PM
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16. What I know is this:
There is no possible way for Clinton to get the delegates to get the nomination. Obama has had a lead in delegates pretty much from the very beginning. Her continuing to stay in the campaign is foolish, divisive, and hurts the chances of a Democrat being elected in November.

I was devastated when Edwards dropped out, because I felt then, and still do, that he's a much better choice than anyone else. But he was realistic enough to look at how things were shaping up and to end his campaign. I wish Hillary would do the same thing.

Probably the very worst thing about her continued campaign is that the longer this goes on, the more likely it is that her supporters will not vote for Obama in November. And that's how we could get a President McCain.

Or maybe we will end up with a brokered convention and the delegates will turn to Edwards. At least that's my fantasy, but I do know it's a fantasy.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:50 AM
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17. But there is still no basis to say Obama would "gracefully step aside" if the
situation were reversed.I do not think the length of the campaign has anything to do with wether the Clinton folks will vote for Obama or not. I think that was written in stone early on. As an Edwards supporter myself, I share your fantasy, but like you, I know it isn't likely to happen. But I do not buy in anyway into the scenario that Edwards quit "voluntarily". Sorry. There is too much evidence to the contrary.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:42 PM
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20. First of all, thanks for the links Cleita.
As we move towards the election season, it's really important to try and be as neutral as we possibly can. When I was reading Whitedove's predictions, I noticed some subjectivity sandwiched in, like "Dennis Kucinich is full of malarkey".
This is a little bit tough for me to accept, since Kucinich has advocated for a lot of things we all believe in, and having the courage to stand up for his beliefs.

If we can stay relatively neutral, the more information we'll get in terms of clarity. It might just be that Mc Cain is the right one for the U.S. at this time, although I promise you I'll shudder at that prospect and have nightmares. But there is so much beneath the surface that we don't understand.

In reality, I believe the President and the centralized power is becoming less and less important. Some people might be shocked at my statement, "but didn't you know, the president is now a Monarch a King he has grabbed more power than ever before to do harm". My answer would still be: "our society is changing. It's decentralizing and the individual is going to reclaim his/her power. Notice? Everything Washington does is a disaster. They fail at everything they do, 24/7. What makes anyone believe that a new person is suddenly going to fix that? Our economy is broke, there is no getting out of Iraq, and the average American is getting hammered.
The power is going to revert back to the individual.
The concept of focusing 100% of our attention hopes and dreams on the presidential candidate feels dysfunctional to me. We need to get away from our "rescuer" and "savior" and start focusing on ourselves.
The government will not be there for us, and we need to start focusing on our own survival, especially in terms of an upcoming meltdown.




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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:09 PM
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21. Funny that you say that.. because the govt is supposed to be of the people,
an by the people.. and it is time we took it back.. It will take ourselves as idividuals to work together with our families, friends, and communities to work through this mess...
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