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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:58 AM
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Has anyone used an Alpha Stim?
I went to the acupuncturist, and he hooked me up to something like this. It felt very relaxing. It had a kind of instant meditation effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lluXWNMQj54

In the USA you need a prescription to buy one, but apparently not in other countries.

Just wondered if anyone had any experience with it. It takes your brain waves out of beta and puts them into alpha, I think.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:41 AM
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1. All the time
It's called marijuana B-) I shit you not.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:46 AM
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4. You'd be interested in this, Shadow
My husband has a sound therapy program that has the frequencies for many different substances. The idea is to put the frequencies on a CD for someone to listen to, to enhance the ability of the body to, say, absorb magnesium, etc. Anyway, the program has the frequency for cannabis. He's wondered what would happen if someone listened to the tone while.......well, you get the picture. :)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:55 AM
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7. This would save me much money and lung damage
both of which I can ill afford right now. Is this an offer? Are you a cop? lol.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:04 AM
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8. Not a cop
no fear of that--and anyway, this is LEGAL :D

How long do you want to have the tone last? My husband will be glad to make you the CD.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:06 AM
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10. Ladies choice. How long can you listen until you go mad?
Give me five minutes longer than that heh!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:44 AM
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2. We make CDs with the different brain frequencies on them
so far no one has told us they are illegal. We call them relaxation CDs, and custom make them using your birth tone. My husband then makes up the frequency intervals between the left and right ear to help get to alpha, delta, and theta states. It is really neat. I find using the CD very relaxing and helpful in easing aches and pains.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:45 AM
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3. I've never heard the concept of birth tone before. How is it established?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:51 AM
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5. The idea is that each person comes in on a specific tone
Like astrology, it is based on birth time and location. It gets really specific. If memory serves, and it's been a while since we've done this, everyone born on, say, Feb. 10, would have a birth tone falling in the range of the note generally called A -- but the specific frequency would be different for each individual. Anyhoo, the person can listen to the tone (in the 16-32 hz range, because this is the range that the brain uses to communicate with itself)and will know immediately if it is soothing or grating. In our experience, which is limited, to be sure, most folks find their birth tones very soothing, and therefore useful to be used to create the relaxation CD.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:54 AM
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6. A is about my favorite chord on the piano/guitar too
It begins about 99% of all rock songs too lol. Have I told you lately that you're amazing Aye?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:05 AM
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9. I'm only reflecting you, you know. n/t
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:53 AM
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13. you know what would be really cool
That would be to play the tone when the kid is born, and then keep following up. I read about some African culture that has "birth songs" that are different for every kid. They sing the song when the infant is born, and then every birthday. If the child needs to be "punished" for something, they simply encircle the person, and sing the birth song, as a reminder to the child of what he/she is.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:33 PM
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14. that's a good idea
I could see how it would be grounding, getting the child back to its roots.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:15 PM
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15. Ayesha, if I want to google this, is there a specific name for this technique
or practice? I'd like to read more about it to see if it is something I can create, maybe by using my computer. My oldest is autistic, my second child is ADD with anxiety, and depression runs in my family, and I take a med for it. I would love see my kids weaned off meds or not have to start one later.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:11 PM
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17. here's the url of the place we got the stuff
http://www.biowaves.com

Realize the whole program costs around $3000. We invested that, and have been trained in using it with folks, only to find it is illegal for us to use this for anything other than relaxation CDs here in the state of Arkansas. The only times we have used it was when an MD ordered it, and then it was ok. It was for an autistic kid. Sadly, we were never paid for it. The whole thing was a bust and a sad disappointment for us--not because it doesn't work, but because we cannot legally use it for healing.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:58 PM
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18. Oh, that is disappointing, afer all of that expense and training.
It's a shame that you were never compensated for the work done for the autistic child. Our insurance doesn't cover anything if "autism" or "Developmental delay" is part of the diagnosis. We usually have to beg the doc to list a differential dx that is medical. Just the same, I've always paid when the insurance wouldn't.

Thank you for the link. I'll be reading up on it.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:02 AM
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20. My doctor treats autistic children from all around the country
Each one is treated as an individual, and many are found to have problems with getting rid of toxins, or they have problems absorbing certain vitamins and minerals. A good friend in Springfield MO had an autistic son who was failing school, had stopped growing, etc. We told her about our doctor, and she took him to her. Her insurance didn't cover the treatment, but our doc allows people to pay out things over time. Anyway, the kid started growing, his grades went to Bs, and he volunteered to be the greeter at his church! He got in trouble at school for sassing a teacher--something unheard of before (and not all that good)--but something a typical 15 year old would do.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:39 AM
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22. Wow. That's a huge change!
My son is very autistic. Doesn't speak much. Has to be highly motivated to initiate a request on his own. Very poor fine motor skills. Still, at age 11 he is learning to read. Has more trouble with numbers, though, and concepts regarding self-restraint, etc.

Most people didn't know what "hyperactivity" was until they would meet my son five years ago. They called normal high energy for a kid "hyper". Not only was it hard for him, but it was driving the rest of us crazy. And he could barely sleep. Fortunately, we have managed to rein in some of that with Strattera. The rest of what others call "hyper" doesn't bother us, as he is just a physically healthy little boy who needs to get this energy worked out.

I tested my son's hair for mercury, but none was found. I think there is something more genetic to his condition. Perhaps he was "assaulted" in some way in utero and our dna didn't act properly to protect him. My biggest regret right now is that we didn't save his cord blood when he was born. There didn't seem to be much reason at that time; they knew so little about its uses. Recently there has been some cord blood used for neurological conditions like cerebral palsy with amazing results. Breaks my heart that we didn't know this sooner.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:24 AM
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21. re: autism
they sell the alpha stim on some autism foundation page. You might want to look into it.

http://www.aheadwithautism.com/alpha-stim100.html

I am telling you when the acupuncturist put these earclips on me, well, I could tell it was something valuable. I need to wear them every time I happen to catch the evening news!! But in the USA one needs a prescription.

There are places on the net where you can custom make your own CDs with various waves.

http://www.transparentcorp.com/products/np /

I have used the Neuroprogrammer and like it. Yes, it changes brain waves, but it just wasn't quite as dramatic as the alpha stim was.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:16 PM
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19. Have you heard of the book (re: autism)
by Jenny McCarthy? I read a magazine article, but here's the same information >

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200709/20070918/slide_2...
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:15 AM
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11. I don't know if there's a difference between an *Alpha* Stim and the...
Stim that I used while at the chiropractor. Little, sticky pads were placed on different locations on my back, and then the areas were zapped. The session usually lasted about 15 minutes. The machine to which they hooked me up was not a personal unit though.

A coworker had a personal unit lent to her by her chiropractor when she had chronic back pain. She said that it really helped, and she wished that she could afford to buy her own unit. This was well over a decade ago, so the price may have gone down since then. (The video said that the price was approx. $700 now.)

If it's the same as the Stim that I've used, it's possible for it to be set too high, and then it's painful. However, at the point right before it becomes painful, I felt that it did help with pain. I have no experience with its effects in reference to reducing anxiety and depression.

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:38 AM
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12. it felt good
I'm not exactly sure why he hooked me up to it. I usually ask a lot of questions, but after this I felt kind of floating so didn't ask him. Maybe the acupuncture "takes" better when someone is out of beta waves. I am pretty sure it also caused endorphin release. It was like meditation, sort of.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:42 PM
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16. I clicked the link and this is what I got...
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:43 PM by OhioBlues
Too funny. I am not familiar with alpha stim. :rofl:

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:14 PM
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23. I heard about another unit that is better and cheaper than the Alpha-Stim.
SOTA Instruments makes the Bio-Tuner. It is much cheaper, and I heard it was much better, for pain, anxiety and insomnia.

www.sotainstruments.com

www.toolsforhealing.com

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