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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:47 PM
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OBSW stellascope for the New Moon
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 05:27 PM by stellanoir
"When the Moon is in the 7th house. . .and Jupiter aligns with Mars. . .then peace will guide the planet. . .and LOVE will. . ."

Huh??? Dumbest astro perspective ever. Firstly, the seventh house of what??? The Moon is in the seventh house of every single chart once every 28 days or so. It transits in the 7th house of every location on the planet EVERY SINGLE DAY. There is a Jupiter Mars conjunct every year and a half or so depending on Mars' retro cycle.

So go figure. My kiddiedom for a decent astro anthem really. I've been saying that for decades but finally was compelled to finally type it for this Aquarian New Moon.

Astrologers have many theories about when we move into the Age of Aquarius. Of one thing we can be sure. We ain't there yet.

When will peace guide the planet. . .? Perhaps when enough of us make it so.

Our foolish leader summarized his entire "*doctrine of preemptive war" based on bogus intelligence (aka sheer stupidity) quite succinctly in three words this past week near Mercury's station. Although he was indulging in his unrelenting unenlightened proclivity of constant shadow projection, he said it in reference to our presumed allies possibly supplying arms to Iran. He said, "money trumps peace." Anyone who would even utter those words is in a sense, reinforcing and in fundamental agreement with that completely inhumane dysfunctional reality.

Still a New Moon in Aquarius occurring within a degree and a half of the cusp that will ultimately pose as the threshold for this illusive new paradigm is a more than auspicious time for us to make it so at least on the level of collective consciousness.

Here is a prayer. . .

"We create with spirit the manifestation of a lasting peace for the greater good of ALL. We further create that most become aware that dialogue raises consciousness of those in conflict and that the antiquated ruse of militarism as a singular solution is no longer appropriate or even remotely effective in this still new millennium. We are creating a better way."

Furthermore, one of the fundamental laws of energetics is that conflict rarely occurs in the absence of mutually shared culpability albeit sometimes karmic.

The New Moon will occur at 11:14 am EST on Saturday February 17 at 28 degrees of Aquarius. It's forms a separating opposition to an at times intolerant Saturn in Leo and sextiles Pluto in Sagittarius. Pluto is still hovering on the mid point of the Galactic Center and the Solar Apex. The New Moon will sorta semi sextile Mars in sometimes crotchety Capricorn and trines Juno in lovely though longing Libra. The lunation will also be within 9 degrees of wistful Neptune in a 9 year. This potentially reinforces the whole "vision thingy."

"Number 9. . .Number 9. . .Number 9. . ."

Saturn's been in Leo for the past year and a half and will remain there until early September when it moves into Virgo. Sadly, Saturn in Leo has brought with it a lot of effort being invested in sheer self preservation and struggle for all too many. It has also exposed childish leadership based on short sighted selfish agendas. When Saturn leaves Leo and goes into Virgo perhaps it'll become clean up time for the planet and the general population may be deeply compelled to making a difference in embarking on more practical, meaningful and effectively redemptive ways for the following two and a half years. This will be especially powerful for those born between '65-'67. Remember what was transpiring way back then? It'll be their Saturn opposition conjunct Uranus and Pluto.

Yet now we find ourselves with six more months of Saturn in Leo. It's triggering many of the later baby boomers' Plutos so that brings up issues of issues of conformity, authority figures, and personal power or lack thereof.

On the upshot, it's interesting that "the Secret" blasted into the collective consciousness under this influence as the LOA is very much akin with the higher potential of this transit.

Venus in Pisces is approaching a square to Pluto which will occur on February 19th at 10:54 pm EST. That will be an interesting day with some really strong emotions and passions early in the day with the Moon and Venus but any extraneous melodrama will not be without it's repercussions by just before high noon EST when the Moon will square Pluto. The potential of transforming any unhealthy dynamics through the reclamations of shadow projections could be really empowering on that day. Cool tunes will help soothe any weirdness I swear. (hey BI turn the radio UP LOUDER LOL)

Then Venus will go into Aries on Ash Wednesday at 3:22 am EST. It'll remain in that sign until St Paddy's Day. In Aries Venus wants everything yesterday and self absorption and neediness can easily overwhelm. Players may abound. Keep your wits about you be wary of "look at me" antics. Deep breaths are recommended as ever.

Mercury is retro until March 7th and the second Saturn Neptune opposition happens on Feb 28th. Perhaps be reticent and relentless in visualizing a better world to come and prepare to by the fall, have opportunity to roll up our sleeves and get down and dirty in operation "clean up."

Does anyone else think it's more than a little ironic that the last time Saturn opposed Neptune was preresignation time in '71 & '72 and we had a dishonest leader. Now we have one that is not only dishonest but also delusional. It's unsustainable really.

Happy New Moon all !!

I'm gonna de-astro speak this early draft and embellish it a bit by morning and maybe post it in GD.

Open to any and all feedback and suggestions and thanks in advance.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 06:05 PM
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1. oh I forgot to add
"Ooga, Booga, Smooga, Wooga" = OBSW = "Oh Bull Shit W"
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 06:22 PM
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2. dearest stella -- (forgive me for this)
Would you forgive me for being self-absorbed?

My chart kind of is plugged into so much of this stuff lately.

My natal Venus is at 28'33" Aquarius, and my 3rd House Mercury is at 26'33"Sagittarius, which I think is conjunct the black hole in the center of the galaxy.

Then I have that sun within half a degree of çhiron in Capricorn in 4th, at sun at 13"'32"Cap and Chiron at 13'55", which I think is opposite the US sun. And I have Uranus opposite my sun, in cancer, in the 10th house, at 16'37" Cancer, Retrograde that would be. My ascendant is 28'01"Virgo.

5th house north node 13'54"Aquarius, of course, South node in Leo in 11th, with my Moon-Pluto conjunction.

I have never been able to figure out this node business, because writers always write from the angle of 5th house or Leo north node, or say 11th house or Aquarius. And of course, mine is 5th house Aquarius and 11th house Leo.

I started out as an actress, but no more. Now I work for an international org. Am I doing the right thing? Or should I just toss it all?

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 06:36 PM
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3. "toss it all. . .?"
I think not. But your Mercury is near the galactic center and that's gonna take another two passes of Pluto and it'll square your ascendant some more so see this as a rather lengthy transformative process. At the risk of sounding prosaic. . .
"the treasure lies in the journey."

You could be gradually weeding out what is not you, before you get to the "aha" moment of what is truly appropriate.

I'd imagine that you got quite a lot of info in that regard when Saturn transited your South Node last summer. Sounds like you are a Jan 3 '53-er. So Saturn's not done with your Pluto and possibly your Moon.

I really don't like saying too much with only partial data but I have a nodal reversal from the traditional rulerships (north in Libra in the 1st) so I know how frustrating that is.

PM me your data if you so desire.

best
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:03 PM
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8. Okay, I'm jumpin' on this bandwagon.
The person above mentioned their Mercury on the GC. This fascinates me as I have a dear friend who's Jupiter is directly on the GC and, with the dirth of info out there on the GC and how it works in one's chart or with one's planets, I'm intensely curious on how that contact might manifest? Does anyone have any thoughts at all on this? Just curious. :-)

And Happy New Moon to everyone! Be sure to make your lists.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:01 PM
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9. Jupiter on the GC's influence would hinge on the aspects, house placements,
and degree of philanthropic expansiveness and world view of the individual. This unfoldment will take a while to be revealed so don't rush to judgment.

More details please.

Nice to see you ccpup.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:43 AM
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15. more info
Jupiter at 26Sag15 in the 5th sextile Mercury at 28Libra07 in the 3rd, trine Uranus 24Leo9 in the 1st, sextile Chiron at 28Aquarius06 in the 7th. Asc at 20Leo01, MC at 14Taurus07, birth info 30 Sept, 1960 at 2:40 AM in Norman, OK

How does the Galactic Center work in one's chart, by the way? Or is it so new that we don't quite know yet? :-)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:39 AM
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21. Well it's manifestation would hinge largely on one's level of consciousness.
The Jupiter placement sounds incredibly well supported in that particular chart.

There's a creative potential there that is really quite amazing but is countered to some degree by a pragmatic Taurus MC. This person would do well working or being around little ones I'd wager.

Intergalactic or Deep Space astrology isn't really new. Philip Sedgewick was the first person I heard talking about it several decades ago.

But just as some people are more terrestrially bound than others, still others are more open to celestial energies that transcend our solar system. Then there is always one's free will decision to access or block these energies.

Dunno if I answered your question.



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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:13 AM
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22. Any info that's new to me
moves me closer to the answer I'm looking for, Stella. My friend has only just become aware of the potential he has for creating something bigger, something "outside the lines" of the career (a very successful trust and estates attorney) he's built over the last 25 years. With the upcoming 14 week journey Pluto will be making over his Jupiter (beginning mid-July and ending mid-October), I trust he'll have moved on -- mentally, spiritually, creatively or somehow physically -- in some significant way by the time Pluto moves away and continues his journey.

At the same time, Pluto will be sitting in a nice, final Trine to my Natal Saturn - Venus conjunction (24 and 26 Aries respecitively), so I suspect it'll be an interesting time for everyone. LOL

Thank you, Stella.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:28 AM
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23. philanthropic endeavors would be totally advisable
for him.

My Saturn is very near his Jupiter though is on the Solar Apex at zero Cap.

I could probably help him structure his vision.

Just as a general statement. . .

It's very hard for me to type personal readings as it takes a boatload of energy and I much prefer readings to be interactive.

I'm happy and am thrilled to address collective trends to raise awareness and answer general questions but readings are really far better for me to do on the phone or in person.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:49 AM
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25. I just lost my post.
It was quite long. Gone, bye bye.

About mercury on the GC. I can't redo it now. Later.

It's so frustrating when you do that! Hit the wrong key and it all disappears!

Mercury is retrograde, right?

ETM
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:59 AM
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27. oooooooooooo I've had that happen a bunch of times so now when I'm writing
longer stuff I usually craft them in either an e-mail or word document, but I tinker with stuff and am an editing freak, though it may not show.

Sorry 'bout that loss.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:30 PM
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28. I'm too impatient to tinker unless I absolutely have to.
Too impatient to re-read.

Too impatient to re-type what I had already written.

It was about Mercury and GC and how I think it affects me. Oh, well, another time.

I forgot the new moon was this a.m., smack on my Venus! Is it? I think it is. Off to Astro.com I am.

ETM
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:42 AM
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24. Whose chart is this? We would get along really well, I think.
A friend of yours?

ETM
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:38 PM
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34. Why do you want to toss it all?
Working for the collective good is what you are meant to do.

You have something called a reversed nodal axis. It means that you have been working on balancing Leo and Aq energy for many life times. In this life you are to deepen the positives of both energies and put them into practical use.
That moon on your SN is going to pull you back into old feelings that may interfere with soul growth. You may even feel like two personalties at times. Those are old feelings from past lives.

(You need to read both NN in Leo and NN in Aq when you look them up.)

In this life the emphasis is going to be on integrating those energies as a way to help humanity, to change things. To make the world a fairer and more equal world community. The goal is to bring change in healthy ways. You are to work in a cooperative way, to take others into account. Not to take egocentric control of the group as you have in past lives.

In the past you have used a great deal of personal power, in this life you are to channel collective power for the good of the whole. Use power for the good of all.

You know how to do this, you have done it before. Now do it better.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 06:38 PM
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4. You better not be puttin no moon in MY seventh house...
Stella,

Heck, I only have one house to begin with, imagine having 7 Saddam?

How well put... but it did SOUND good back in the sixties. Imagine, Jupiter aligning with Mars...we'll go play water volleyball.

Peace, Aquarius, I don't get it... more like chaos and let's buy the world some, er, I mean, A Coke.

Your thread about W's "money trumping peace"
Made me think of David Hawkins wonderful book, "Power vs. Force" or
in the case of our fearless leader, "Brains vs. Alfred E. Newman"

Astrologically: I don't think the Saturn in Leo thingie was too painful in a "selfish" kinda way, I feel that clients really needed to identify their boundaries since 7/16/05. I am finding that LEO clients are TIRED OF IT AND WANT IT GONE! EH? They're just not used to carrying that OLD RUGGED CROSS like I am, I guess. (Listen closely to the sound of my tiny violin screeching...)

Loved the number nine reference. Paul IS dead, is he not? What the hell are we gonna do when he DOES DIE!? No one will believe it and everyone will be trying to play their CD or DVDs backwards?

Does anyone else think it's more than a little ironic that the last time Saturn opposed Neptune was preresignation time in '71 & '72 and we had a dishonest leader.

Yes, and he was a Capricorn at the time nailed for underhandedness (Neptoon).
Maybe we should hit W's chart upside the head with ANY planet that resembles intelligence...huh?



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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:31 PM
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10. Hey rick I don't know how to tell you this delicately but
"xyz" there is a MOON in your seventh house once a month. LOL "Who's moonin' who ?" may just be the operative question.

"...we'll go play water volleyball" reminds me of Lutin's quip, "everybody's waiting to leap out of the frying pan and into the swimming pool and it just doesn't work that way." He's so delightfully sardonic.

"let's buy the world some, er, I mean, A Coke." Now you've gone and given me the earworm of "I'd like to teach the world to sing. . .in perfect harmony." e-gads I'm dating myself.

"Astrologically: I don't think the Saturn in Leo thingie was too painful in a "selfish" kinda way, I feel that clients really needed to identify their boundaries since 7/16/05. I am finding that LEO clients are TIRED OF IT AND WANT IT GONE! EH?"

Yup I'm hearing the same thing. And when I referred to selfishness, I was speaking of our lame assed misleadership for sure. I should have been more specific and thanks for pointing that out.

"They're just not used to carrying that OLD RUGGED CROSS like I am, I guess."

Hey you might wantta put that dang thang down for a while, or at least not operate heavy machinery whilst carrying it's ill fated load. Messianic complexes aside, I'll tell you from experience, they don't pay off in a hurry. Really.

(Listen closely to the sound of my tiny violin screeching...)

Can my ears truly tune into that decibel. Looking for cotton balls now. LOL

Paul may never die. If Heather didn't kill him nothin' will for a while at least.

Dowd's description of "Bushworld" wherein everything was opposite was really apt for * and his assorted idiocies. That Merc conjunct Pluto of his is so unbelievably deranged. It's mind boggling really.

I'm simply saying let's consider working on a conscious level to create a new and improved paradigm for this still new millennium is all.

I'm knowing it can be so.

best



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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:51 PM
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12. Oh my this is fun.
How DID that Moon get in my house.

Re: George's Mercury Pluto... gawd, it's just impossible to battle Leo energy. The more you push on it, the bigger it gets. Hell, just look at Barry Bonds.
The ONLY good thing about the Bush presidency is that EVERY DAY it gets one day closer to the end. :banghead:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:58 PM
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13. Yeah and "who let the dogs out"
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 12:07 AM by stellanoir
Sorry I'm really wiped. Am fastly losing my ability to be at all witty. But I've been up against *'s idiocy and our dumb reactions to it for far too long as evidenced by this oldy but not so moldy. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3569357

enjoy.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:18 AM
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14. I don't write 'em I just read 'em silly LOL
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 06:52 PM
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5. de-astro speak
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 06:57 PM by rumpel
If you are up to it - here are some scientists that actually work to understand the subtle energies and the effects of the planets on us, homo sapiens.
While this is primarily focussed on our psychic abilities or reception of information from somewhere (believed to be at the moment: the center of the Milky Way) in the deep galaxy, these energies have affected us since we were blobs.

(btw., as you know - this is where our spaghetti monster has recently been spotted to have been on vacation) :evilgrin:

Astrology to me is a statistical science of probabilities, collected over thousands of years on geomagnetic forces affecting us on an every day level. The data from numerous experiments suggest - yes - these energies are real.
Like Dr. Claude Swanson opines, it is high time people start opening their minds to exiting new discoveries and understanding.

Kolisko Effect, Gauquelins, Pineal Gland, Astrology and Zodiacs.

Madame Kolisko and others have shown how the position of planets can have small effects on metallic salts in solution. The Pineal Body is a light sensitive gland under the brain, and has been called the Third Eye. There is a high probability that the Kolisko Effect influences the Pineal to give the effect of the astrological clock (the houses of the zodiac). The webmaster considers the contents of zodiacs to be far older than man on Earth. Thus he believed that the current astrological zodiac must have been man made. The Kolisko Effect gives a much more believable solution.
http://www.viking-z.org/akgpaz.htm

Mars Saturn Experiments

'Kolisko has shown us the way to a new chemistry, a chemistry full of life, because it is in reality the forces of life which reach right down into the mineral world, creating there a realm of inner music in tune with the harmony of the spheres above.' Michael Drummond (in Mercury Star journal, 1977)
Experiments using the three solutions, of iron, silver and lead.
http://www.anth.org.uk/Science/kolisko/mars-saturn_expts.htm

A Possible Discovery Regarding ESP

Stanford, CA, June 23, 1997 --- In 1931 Karl Jansky of the Bell Telephone Laboratories was carrying out experiments with an advanced radio antenna to track down all the noise sources causing problems for the newly developed shortwave radiotelephone systems. One perplexing source of radio static could not be explained... until Jansky made a key observation. The static would steadily peak four minutes earlier day after day. The unknown radio source was keeping perfect time not with some daily occurrence on Earth, but with the passage of the stars overhead, reaching a maximum every 23 hours 56 minutes, once every sidereal day. What Jansky was measuring turned out not to be coming from the Earth; it was radio emission from the center of the Milky Way galaxy passing overhead every 23 hours and 56 minutes. His observation of a precise correlation between sidereal (star) time and his mystery source gave birth to radio astronomy.

snip

"If I had found a 24-hour correlation, I would chalk it up to circadian rhythms or office hours," says Spottiswoode. "But I've checked my data carefully and those kinds of effects could not mimic the sidereal correlation I found. Don't ask me what it is, but it's real."

Prof. Peter Sturrock, a plasma physicist at Stanford University and president of the Society for Scientific Exploration which publishes the Journal is taking a cautious position saying, "I am going to reserve judgement about this claim. In my work on similar problems, I have found that patterns can either fade away or change into something else. What looks like a sidereal-time effect may be due to something quite different, perhaps involving multiple periodicities. But Spottiswoode has made an opening gambit, and it is now up to his colleagues and critics to respond."

"This article makes such a potentially significant claim that we had it refereed by two experienced professors, a statistician and an astronomer," reports the editor of the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Dr. Bernhard Haisch, who is himself an astronomer. "Even though they have no idea how this could be real they found the study worthy of publication."

http://www.remoteviewers.com/htms/updated/info/general_rv/sidereal.htm

and another paper by Spottiswood
Effect of Ambient Magnetic Field Fluctuation on Performance in a Free Response Anomalous Cognition Task: A Pilot Study
S. James P. Spottiswoode

Retrospective analyses of putative spontaneous psi, or anomalous cognition (AC), events have shown a tendency for these to be reported on days of relatively low geomagnetic disturbance. Studies of past laboratory experiments have produced evidence that scores in successful AC experiments are negatively correlated to geomagnetic field (GMF) indices. Relevant characteristics of GMF activity and of the geomagnetic indices are discussed and a rationale for an experimental test of this effect is presented. A wide range of physical effects are correlated to the GMF indices and it is not presently possible to determine the exact physical parameter responsible for the GMF – AC correlations. In an exploratory experiment subjects were tested for AC in an apparatus where they could be shielded from the relatively large amplitude (> 1 nT) and slow (< 0.1 Hz) variations which are registered by the GMF indices used in the retrospective studies. The apparatus used a Helmholtz coil to generate a magnetic field which could both null out external variations and provide artificial magnetic noise for a control condition. AC performance in a free response task was compared, using a double blind protocol, between the shielded condition and conditions in which three kinds of magnetic noise were imposed upon subjects. In 68 trials the pilot study produced only weak evidence for AC (p = 0.3, effect size = 0.05) and, contrary to hypothesis, AC performance was slightly higher in the magnetically noisy, rather than shielded, conditions.

http://www.jsasoc.com/library.html
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:49 PM
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11. thanks rumpel
This is all fascinating yet after my not so subtle slap down last lunation in GD,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x36318

when Saturn was near my Uranus, I think I'd better proceed with caution or find or reactivate another venue. Still that's really cool stuff.

By overwhelmingly positive response, folks are hungering for this stuff so I'll plug along. And see what spirit guides me to do.

You provide fantastic data and I'm so appreciative.

best and happy New Moon dear!!!

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 01:42 AM
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17. May the force be with you
:)

I will, albeit in form of the underground Ewoks...
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 02:28 PM
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30. how can anyone not possibly love and adore ewoks LOL
and thanks sweetie
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:52 AM
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26. I'm having this urge to meet all you guys!
Why don't we have a meet-up someday, somewhere?

ETM
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wickfordbard Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 12:57 PM
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29. For another defense of the reality of Astrology
See Richard Tarnas' new book, Cosmos and Psyche. He started out to debunk Astrology and is now a firm believer - in fact, he believes Astrology is the link we are looking for to prove Spirit.

Thanks for all this fascinating info.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 02:41 PM
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31. Oh now don't get all academic on us
I just conspired with Bea. . naughty me. . . LOL

We love you. That's our conspiracy and we're sticking to it.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 02:11 PM
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33. Liz Greene predicted the break-up of the Soviet Union --
-- in the early eighties, based on the USSR's seventh house.

The book is out of print, and I lent my copy to someone who never gave it back.

It was about the "the astrology of the collective", that might even have been the title of the book. It was a series of seminars that had been transcribed.

In this book, which I owned in about 1983, I think, Liz Greene looks at the chart of the USSR (and other countries, as well). In particular, she theorized about what might happen with that big conjunction towards the end of the eighties -- in Capricorn, I think -- involving some of the outer planets. Neptune, Uranus? Saturn, was it? I cannot recall.

Anyway, according to what she saw in the 7th house with that conjunction-to-come, she suggested, to paraphrase, that some of the "forced wives" of the USSR would be asking for divorces -- the forced wives being the satellite countries.

And that is just what happened, six or seven years later.

I sure wish I still had that book. Could probably get it, I guess, second hand, if I really wanted to.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:44 PM
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6. I don't understand the astrology part of your posts so I accept
your explanations of what is going on. I am feeling better about how things are going though and that we are taking the first baby steps into the Age of Acquarius. Those criminals who have been holding us hostage are beginning to lose their grip and we have to make sure it stays lost. It is ironic that our last dishonest ruler that started this spiral into the murky world of war and criminal activity would begin under the same planets that this one arrived under. Also, the fact that the same people in that administration are in this administration tells me that things are coming full circle. Let's hope that this time we are rid of them permanently.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:21 PM
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7. coming full circle
is something I totally agree

How many countries would allow previously indicted people back into positions of power and influence? Someone posted the 25 most corrupt officials of this administration the other day - but those are small peanuts compared to the key people above them.
http://www.citizensforethics.org/execcorruption/

grrr.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 01:10 AM
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16. As always, good work, stella! Good luck if you decide to post it in GD.
Let us know if you need reinforcements.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 03:56 AM
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18. Oh, believe me, stell, the radio is UP.
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 04:04 AM by BlueIris
And it's interesting that you would recommend working on integration of shadow qualities this week--that's been one of my personal projects this fall/winter. It's hard for me. My shadow side has some really ugly elements. The approaching Venus in Aries should also yield some interesting developments for me (natal Venus in Aries here) as....HEY.

"In Aries Venus wants everything yesterday and self absorption and neediness..."??

Venus in Aries is also a tireless crusader (me and Ted Kennedy, baby) and nobody beats Venus in Aries for our charming and useful "love at first sight" ability. Those "(p)layers" aren't going to get over on us. Well, unless we're in love with them. I realize Venus is considered to be in detriment in Aries, but it has its perks there, too.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:28 AM
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20. whoops I should have embellished more on the upside there and mea culpa
You are absolutely right BI. Planetary placements in all of the signs have their redemptive features for sure and I tend to stay away from the old terms of exaltation, detriment, and fall for them. I was referring to the transit not the natal placement though. It can shorten a lot of people's fuses for sure.

Unique approaches and styles are always inherent with personal planets in Aries.

Mars and Mercury there can be unbelievably talented trouble shooters, that is when they'r not bored and trouble making.

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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 07:31 AM
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19. The lounge has started a thread about the song Aquarius
I think it's a sign to get this posted out in the big area. :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6201834
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:48 PM
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32. thanks
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