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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:05 PM
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Learn how to manifest for real
Guys,

I've written about Andrea Hess's Money Manifesting Mastery before on here because it's a wonderful program and it totally works. TOTALLY. I've hit my dollar goals every. single. month. since I've started.

She's having a special offering of this program at an amazing price - originally priced at $297, she is offering it for a limited time at $97! You get six MP3s that walks you through the steps, a workbook and a transcription of the whole thing.

Now, here's the piece I want to pop in - I have wanted to do a study group using this material for a while now but wasn't sure many people could swing the $297. When I saw her offer today, I knew I had to put this out here.

My idea is this: if you buy the program (link below), let me know. I'll then plan out a weekly skype meeting where we can talk and brainstorm with the material and help you feel comfortable with it. By the month end, you will see how this all works and so will your bank account.

The skype meeting is free and I am NOT getting any affiliate funding for putting this out here.

I'm doing it because it freaking works. She really pulls the piece down about doing things in the physical that embody the vibration you choose. For example, the month I picked the word Empowerment which I chose to equal $250, I changed up some of my habits. Where I might not have spoken up, I did. Where I didn't want to deal with confrontation, I did. And that month, out of freaking NOWHERE, over $350 showed up.

This is how I raised the $400 for the Readings for Hope I did in May. My word was Service (equals $400) and I made over and above that.

It works. but you have to do the action and that's what the study group can help with. Of course, you don't need the study group to make it work. I didn't have one. But I think it helps cement the concept.

If you are at all drawn to this, please check it out. The price is really very affordable and I can show you how it works.

Here's the link: http://www.intuitioninbusiness.com/andreahess

PM me if you have questions or thoughts.

I know so many are struggling with making ends meet. This is one of the best investments I've ever made. And I do it each and every month.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:57 PM
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1. I'd really love to do this......
however, I'm torn because we already have to come up with at least $1k before the last week of the month. I don't know if I can justify spending any extra; even if I think it will produce what I need. I know that sounds crazy, but you know what I mean.

I will spend the next couple of days intending to find that extra $97. I'll do my best. It really looks interesting!
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 05:49 AM
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2. I hear ya ...
... it's a good program - you do have to do the work (taking action to match the vibration) but it's not hard action. The first month I half-assed it and got .... HALF of what I wanted. LOL The next month - full ass, I did! :-) And it worked. I am always amazed at how the money comes through but I know it will. (Even my disbelieving non-woo-woo husband likes to watch and see where it's coming from. He even helped me pick my word for the coming month. hehe)

I just feel so strongly about this so I hope I'm not coming off all "ShamWOW" on you guys but it's empowering on so many levels and I think everyone can use a dose of that.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 06:26 AM
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3. More info ...
... we have several people who are interested in the Skype study group so I'm looking at the week of July 11th to get it going. I don't know how long Andrea is going to be offering the $97 price on it so if you are thinking about it, I'd do it sooner rather than later. :)

If you want to join in on it, please let me know so I can include you in the study group as well.

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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 05:35 PM
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4. I'm interested, I think.
But, could you explain a little more about what the program is about? What does the work entail? What does matching the action to the vibration mean?
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 06:33 PM
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6. An explanation from my blog
I wrote this a while back, trying to explain it a bit to the readers of my blog: http://snarkypants.com/2010/01/31/manifesting-in-3d/#mo...

Here's an excerpt:

Basically, its this: In order to manifest money (which is really just energy), you have to assign it an energetic address. For example, lets say that you want to manifest $1000 and have said that this amount of money in your bank account would make you feel relieved, or joyful or whatever emotion you choose. Once youve figured that part out, then you have to do some real down-to-earth things to bring that energy into your life more.
So, if youve chosen joy as your energetic address, you start to think of things that make you feel joyful that bring more joy into your life. And you do as many of those things as you can. That lifts you automatically into that energy. And since youve said $1000 = joy, then those dollars will come through. The hitch is you have to do the real life actions to create that energetic state for yourself to attract the money. (Mind you, I am taking 100 pages of her work and sifting it down to one paragraph so bear with me if its not too clear yet.)


It really boils down to making the connection between the money, the energetic address you assign it and then doing things in the physical world that embodies that energy. Dissonance shows up once you've shifted your vibration but if you know it when you see it, you can work through it.

I'm just doing the study group for the one month period to assist others in doing the work. I know a couple people who bought the program and then never got around to doing it. What a waste because it works when you do the steps. Start off with smaller amounts and work your way to larger ones. Trust that it works and keep doing your work.

Here's a 10 minute YouTube Andrea did as she started a month long video journey of her work with the program. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Nn6nf-DfQ ) Each week she talked about what she did that week to embody the energy and how it manifested into her bank account. She is very transparent, talking exact dollars - I like that she works with integrity.

Anyway, if you get it and work it, trust me when I say that a couple months from now, you will be all the better for it, making back your $97 investment in no time. This month I am going for $583 manifested from Practically Intuitive using the phrase "Follow-through" - part of the work I'll be doing in the physical to embody this is clearing off my desktop computer of any files I want to keep. This is a chore I've been putting off for three years. So, yeah. Follow-through.

If you want to join in on the study group, please let me know. I am looking at one evening a week for 5 weeks starting next week (the 11th).

:)
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 05:46 PM
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5. I've begun working on my program
I really like it. It totally makes sense. Not hard work, but one thing it does is make you think about your money issues.

Even though I've not seen results yet (I have a one month goal and a date for that is set) I am feeling the difference.

I defintely recommend this program.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 06:38 PM
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7. Bonnie - Cool that you've started! :-)
Yes, it does ask you to come face-to-face with some issues you have around money but that's a good thing, yes? Especially if you are seeking to bring more into your life!

For me, the piece about matching the energy vibration to the activity was the missing link. I could visualize my ass off but much of the time, nothing manifested. Andrea put that part together for me, added the section about dissonance (when you shift vibrations but your environment stays the same) and how to work through it and I was good to go.

We'll be reporting back how we are doing so those of you who are interested but hesitant can see how it works.

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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 04:25 AM
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8. Okay, I may be a leetle crazy,
but I'm in. Just paypal'd Andrea for the materials!
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 05:50 AM
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9. Nah, you're not crazeee!
:-) Will you be joining us on the skype call once a week?
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 06:02 AM
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10. I'd like to, if the scheduling works out.
At the moment I think I'm going to be out of town on the 11th, but I'll let you know if that changes.

Haven't gotten a link yet to the material. *drums fingers*
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:04 AM
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23. Did you get it?
She has a good system down so you should have gotten it pretty quickly. Let me know if you didn't.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:52 PM
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30. I did!
Found it in my junk mail folder. :eyes:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:31 AM
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46. Um, I didnt get my email w/link yet. Was it a different email from the receipt?
I signed up under one of my email accounts for the materials but I have another email account that's linked to my PayPal, and haven't seen the email from Andrea yet w/the link in either one and I've scoured my junk folders.

Where I am today my wifi is sketchy so I'm pretty sure I can't be on tonight's Skype call. :(

Could you help me please with getting the link to the materials? Thanks. :loveya:
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 07:09 AM
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11. I'm interested--I like the idea of a practice support group. Howwwwever.....
I feel uncomfortable with the "buy this expensive workshop and become rich"...... I don't mean to aim my suspicions at you, mysticalchick!!!, I just always feel uncomfortable with this kind of approach.

Sounds like hucksterism, even though I like the idea behind it. But supporting people to learn how to apply Universal principles for manifestation just kind of seems like it shouldn't cost so much. And the discount is nice (still a lot, though, for something rather esoteric, and yes, woo-woo *I'm allowed to say that because I LIKE woo-woo*), but still, there IS that ShamWOW--MARKETING feeling to it all.)

There is an LOA group online and people frequently support each other in practicing LOA principles.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 08:30 AM
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12. I hear you, Blanche
... and I rather don't like that myself. I guess because I know Andrea through other work (Soul Realignment), I feel she has a great deal of integrity and I was willing to try it and see how it resonated. For me, it was a HUGE awakening. I have read and tried the LOA stuff but I didn't get the piece about the actions being brought down into the physical. (Probably because I don't much like the physical.) But that was what *I* was missing in doing this work. So, for me, that made all the difference in manifesting. For others who maybe already get that part, it's nothing they aren't already doing.

I think $97 is quite reasonable given you get five 35+ minute mp3s that walk you through the process, the complete transcript and worksheets. I paid $147 early on for it and I think it was one of the BEST investments I've made. (And I buy a LOT of woo-woo material because I love the learning part.)

I like to bring things in front of this group that I think will be interesting and rewarding with potential for growth. Not all the stuff I find amazing will feel that way to everyone. (GASP! I know, right? heh)

You know my feeling about things: if it resonates with you, go for it. If not, there's plenty of stuff out there that will. :)

I'm glad you spoke up, Blanche. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify.

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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:34 AM
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13. Than YOU, mystical!
I appreciate your response!

Your note that you know and respect the woman who created the material makes it better for me. That makes a big difference!

I look forward to seeing other people's experiences with it. I'm tempted, but at the same time, not feeling the "Hell Yes!" about spending the money.

Hope you'll all keep us informed on your study group results!!
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:29 AM
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19. :-)
I honor your feelings about it, of course.

In the "woo-woo" world of products, there is really a hard push on and it totally causes me to cringe and run the other way. One woman who runs a program for Coaching With Spirit is hard core about it and I am beyond turned off by that. I listened in on a free call a while back thinking I'd give it a chance. And while I like the program somewhat, I was turned off by the marketing.

I decided recently to try it again and see if I can't push past the blocks I had about it to look at the product. Nope. It was just too much for me and turned me off of what might have been a good program for me. C'est la vie.

Andrea does things the same way a lot of other practitioners do but it doesn't bother me at all probably because I've studied with her, listened to a lot of her free calls about this kind of thing and know of her integrity. (Slade Roberson, whom I trust and adore, is a personal friend of hers and speaks well of her and I trust Slade beyond measure. But I also trusted my inner knowing, like you, Blanche. That's the bottom line. Even if Slade loved the Coaching from Spirit person, I probably wouldn't go there because my higher self is put off by it for some reason.)

Anyway, all that to say yes, we will keep you guys posted. hehe

(It's 6:30am and I am hella chatty. What's that about??)
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:14 PM
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15. I understand
I'm also really cautious about anything smelling of hucksterism. But I dropped deeply into my heart and THEN made the decision to go for it. Your heart will tell you the truth.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:09 PM
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14. OK, this is amazing
I'm on the third day into a 31 day period working with the Andrea Hess program and I'm 1/10 of the way to my goal!

Way to go universe. Let go of your restrictions my friends. Let go of what you think is possible. The world is turning on its head. The rules are crumbling and I'm on the first train to the new country.

Freedom from want. That's the key. Freedom from the old paradigm. Freedom to express who I am. Freedom to meet my needs while knowing that freedom from want is available to everyone.
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:22 AM
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18. How awesome is that??
YEY Bonnie!

It's amazing to see where the money comes from. Part of how it works is to let go of "how do I make this money come to me?" and just concentrate on doing the real-world actions that embody the energetic address.

Which reminds me that I am slacking in my "Follow-through" of removing my stuff from two unused computers. UGH. Such tedious work. Still. Must do.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:51 AM
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20. Oh, girl.....freedom is my key word, too!!!!!
I'm gonna post something separate in a second...about believing and "putting it out there!"

:hug:

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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:26 PM
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16. I'm confused about the Skype part....
I saw that you're thinking about the 11th. Just wondering what time, how to participate, etc.
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:19 AM
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17. I'll PM you with details
It's not firmed up yet ... will be doing that tonight. We are looking at a night the *week* of the 11th. :)

The way I am planning it out will be 5 weeks: first week to just review the materials and answer questions, second week to go over your energetic address and help you with 3D actions to take with it, third/fourth/fifth to go over what's been happening and address dissonance, see what's working and what's not.

It could change somewhat based on what the participants need but that's my thought at this point.




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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:51 PM
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29. Oh, the *week* of the 11th I can probably manage.
I'll be in town that week. :-)
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 07:34 AM
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21. Should we finish listening to the recordings before 1st meeting?
I purchased the course, but haven't had 2 seconds to listen to anything yet. Started reading the document, and I'm about 1/2 through that.

sorry -- been pretty busy lately.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:59 AM
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22. Nah ...
Just the overview one - at least read through the materials and just be familiar with the process. The first call is just go over stuff.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:40 AM
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24. I've been mulling this over since you posted this. Is there still time to participate?
I'm thinking right now, "Since I keep coming back to this, is there something there for me that I need to learn?"

I'm thinking there must be. :hi:
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:06 PM
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25. Absolutely!
Jump on in! The water is warm! heh

I'll PM you and everyone else that wants to participate tonight with more details.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:11 PM
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26. Also, just got an email that Andrea is doing a FREE series
Called Abundance Mentoring - check out her site www.empoweredsoul.com for more info.

(Since some were asking about the cost - and this is TOTALLY FREE - it might be a chance to get some insight without fronting some cash.)

Check it out. I'm joining in because I like to know more about this. :)

~~~~~~~~~ She says:

When you become a member of the Divine Abundance Mentoring Circle, you'll be invited to participate in two monthly calls ... and your membership is absolutely free.

In our semi-monthly calls, Ill be tuning into your Spirit Guide team to answer your personal questions about how YOU can create abundance in your life!


Well answer questions such as:

What, specifically, is standing between you and a financially abundant life?

Are there energetic blocks or restrictions somewhere in your Being that are not in alignment with what you want to create?
Are there past-life issues holding you back?

What are the current energetic misalignments to the financial abundance you want?

Are there patterns of thought, belief, or action that are unconsciously limiting you?

Are you aligning with your Souls purpose?

Are you struggling with receiving intuitive guidance from your spiritual team?

Based on the questions YOU bring to these calls about your unique circumstances, we will address these types of issues head-on.

Well have lots of fun and I guarantee that you will shift your perspective on how to create what you want as the Divine Being you truly are.

In settings such as these, the questions asked tend to have a profound meaning for everyone attending. Divine Guidance ensures that, whether we get to your personal question or not, you WILL take away exactly what you need from these calls!

You'll also be able to access the online replays of our most recent call.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 03:16 PM
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27. Oh, WOW
I have been thinking of questions along those lines to myself anyway!

But the ones you posed above have more structure, purpose and clarity than my thoughts have. :D

THANK YOU for this. :hug:
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:56 PM
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31. Just tried to join but
the link she has is broken.
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:01 PM
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32. I know ....
something was wonky there. Try it again and see if it's better. I'll drop her a line and let her know it takes you in circles.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 03:25 PM
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28. Okay! I'm in! I'll sign up from work today as tonight I plan to go home & just crash
Been kind of a draining week and I really need to be uplifted lately and this might be part of what I need.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:03 PM
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33. I have tried.....
three times to sign up for the program....

I want to pay with Paypal....which says to go back to her site...which sends me back to the original sign in...
I'm in some endless loop which is not letting me complete the deal...

Any suggestions on what to do?
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 04:41 AM
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34. Are you talking about the Manifesting program for $97
... or the Abundance Mentoring? I was having a bit of problem signing up for the mentoring and emailed her about it. As for the other program, I didn't have a problem getting to the payment page. If you still can't get through the loop, email her directly (andrea@andreahess.com ) and let her know.

PM me if you have any problems with it. :)
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:45 AM
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35. Wishing for money?
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 08:59 AM by GliderGuider
Please accept my apology in advance, but I can't begin to express how much this approach to manifestation pisses me off.

As I understand it, manifestation requires you to put yourself in complete harmony with the universe so that the universe and your higher self can cooperate to provide your material self with whatever you need in order to accomplish your higher goals in this reality. While what you need might be money, it also might not. It might be grinding poverty or a devastating illness instead, and in fact is more likely to be something like that than a new car or a big fancy keep-up-with-the-Joneses house. The key to life is not material success, it's learning the things you need to learn in order to advance your soul's agenda. Souls tend not to need Big Money so much as Big Lessons.

For instance, I just reconnected with my twin flame after losing track of her 27 years ago. We manifested each other on Facebook and have re-united to play out the last act of our lives together. Fantastic, right? Well, not so fast...

In order to get to the point where we were psychologically and spiritually ready to finally connect in this life, we each plowed through a mountain of shit over those 27 years. I was divorced twice, separated twice more, lost 2 million dollars (most of it in the divorces), and then had to spend most of my remaining retirement savings so my soul-mate and I could re-unite and relocate together across the continent. Over those same 27 years she lost a husband to head injuries, spent 13 years trapped in a loveless second marriage, and went through 15 years of abject poverty after losing a multi-million dollar business she built from scratch.

Learning from the misery gave us both the strength, resilience, perspective and self-awareness we needed to recognize and re-join each other. Do we think the prices we have paid have been worth it? You bet! Would either of us have deliberately manifested the misery it took to get us to where we are? No way! If we had chosen to manifest simple material success instead, would we have been able to create the ultimate joy we did? Not a chance!

So, be very careful what you wish for. You might get it, but it might not be what you really need. Trust in your soul's wisdom. It knows what it needs.

Namaste.
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:11 AM
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36. With all due respect, GliderGuider ...
... I do this manifesting piece IN ADDITION to all the other work I do in my life to manifest spiritual lessons, work, etc. I am not doing it just so I can roll around in diamonds or furs or whatever. I do it as a piece of the whole pie.

My desire is to create a practice as an intuitive counselor and coach. This is my life's work and I know it. I don't see any conflict in using this approach to help grow that practice so I can transition over to it full time. Believe me, there are a MILLION and one lessons along the way that I have worked through to get to this place. I am not taking the easy way out.

So, I appreciate you speaking up but I disagree with what you are saying. We all have our lessons - ain't no way to bypass that.

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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:34 AM
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37. Fair enough, however...
I know I trigger on this issue. I vividly recall going to an Abraham and Hicks seminar and hearing people bitching about things like not getting the car they were trying to "manifest". The universe manifests for us all the time, the main problem I've seen in my life has been my unwillingness or inability to recognize and accept the manifestations that the universe had dropped right in front of my nose. It seems to come down to a question of "My will not Thy will" - I want what I want, and may refuse to accept what I'm being given because it's not what I want.

Personally I feel further ahead putting my effort into trying to understand the lessons the universe is already teaching me, rather than trying to make it give me what I want. Of course, when I put effort into designing my path through life, I put it into accomplishing things I want at the time rather than things I don't want. We all do that. But when we start talking about "manifesting" as opposed to simply "accomplishing" we need to be careful. Manifestation requires the universe to align with us and vice versa, so the question of who is doing what to whom and why becomes a little harder to unravel.

People always choose how they wish to use their time and energy. We all have millions of lessons to learn, and the result of every choice we make can be a lesson if we choose to look at it that way. I hope that clarifies my position a bit.
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #37
38. It does, yes.
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 10:46 AM by mysticalchick
I appreciate your position and thank you for clarifying.

What I find different about this program is bringing it into the physical and DOING SOMETHING different to shift your vibration. The month I used the word "empowerment" as my vibration word, wowza ... what an interesting month! But I used those lessons I got as a stepping stone to other things. I'm all about seeing the lesson (even and especially IF it's a sucky one I don't really want).

Thanks for your response.



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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #35
39. agree to a point, but a couple of difference maybe worth exploring
I found the sales pitch pretty overbearing, and targeted at greed. I took a look and found the website and am totally turned off by the surface appearance of everything, including Ms. Hess, who looks and dresses like a corporate clone of a sales executive. It's no surprise that she was able to boost her income from $5K to $35K per month. She's tapping into the inner greed/desire for free ride our inner children crave.

I went ahead and downloaded the mini-book introduction and -- as I expected -- it was a teaser that ended with a sales pitch for a book or the program or something, I forget what.

HOWEVER, the message of the teaser was not what I expected/feared. It seems to possibly be as much about aligning your conscious desires with your soul purpose and unconscious desires. Not so much ask and ye shall receive as re-thinking what you truly need and then ask and ye shall receive. Which explains why we manifest some things so easily, because there is no inner argument over them.

Also, remember GuilderGuider, a lot of us have not had the opportunity to earn/make fortunes to lose. In this economy in particular, many of us are just struggling to survive.

So I signed up for the *free* thing today. Don't know if my crappy ISP will enable me to tune in, but I'm going to investigate. I'm sure it will be another teaser with a sales pitch, but I find those such a turnoff I don't worry about falling prey. And maybe it'll be worth it. Nothing to lose but a little time at this point. And it's too hot and humid to get much done outside :shrug:
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Nice evaluation of the situation northernlights
Edited on Sat Jul-10-10 12:22 PM by BanzaiBonnie
GliderGuider, your anger literally jumped out from your post. I accept responsibility for any part I have in this. I love you. Thank you for this opportunity to make things right. Please forgive me. I forgive you.

I also understand and agree with northernlights response. The big push by Hess over jumping from $5000 a month to $35,000 a month was actually a turn off for me. I just don't think anyone needs that much money. But for people who dream of such things it's a different sort of trigger. And that's their lesson to learn.

I took this into myself to ask what is true and what is not. That's why I signed up. And I found something that is missing in the LOA stuff. Hess gives a direct, step by step approach to getting your mental, emotional and spiritual self all in alignment with your higher self.

GG, you wrote, "manifestation requires you to put yourself in complete harmony with the universe so that the universe and your higher self can cooperate to provide your material self with whatever you need in order to accomplish your higher goals in this reality."

Part of my lesson is to differentiate the patterns that have been put on me by family and society from who I AM. Many of us have been taught that you have to work hard (kill yourself by destroying your health) to earn a living. Some of us have been taught that there is no joy in life. There is to be no introspection. Only focus outward on the material. That's as much of a trap as those who want, want, want. They will never find on the outer what can only be received by turning inward.

Women, of my generation, were also indoctrinated that they were nothing without a man. And men were indoctrinated that they were to be the providers. This societal system (pattern) not only puts men and women at odds, it also puts a false burden on both men and women.

My life always runs smoother when I'm in alignment with my higher purpose. I have always had such a problem with money and it's always been a very bumpy road. Often verging on and sometimes falling into poverty conditions. I have never blamed anyone else for this and have always remained thankful for all that I do have. I still believe that the universe behaves perfectly.

What I have always had is a disdain for money. I despised the inequality of a system that appears to set some up to fail. At least that's what it looked like to me. In the past fews years I've begun to understand and ask forgiveness for my rejection of money. It is not money's fault people have misused this energy equivalency system. Money is just a tool.

No matter what the Andrea Hess program may or may not be, no matter what it may or may not look like, it has provided me with useful tools to learn about myself and my experience here on the planet. And I'm really getting a kick out of seeing how amazingly the universe works.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. bingo
Edited on Sat Jul-10-10 01:17 PM by northernlights
you articulated what I wanted to, but fell short of.

"The big push by Hess over jumping from $5000 a month to $35,000 a month was actually a turn off for me. I just don't think anyone needs that much money. But for people who dream of such things it's a different sort of trigger. And that's their lesson to learn."

"That is their lesson to learn" was my final feeling and why I'd held off on posting on this until today. And seriously, I'd be *thrilled* to have my income back to $5,000/month. Or even 2/3s that.

And yes, yes, yes, I grew up with a disdain for money. It never occurred to me to apologize to money -- I think I'll try that. I have a slew of issues around money and also business. I wanted to have my own business, but I sabotage myself because I don't want to actually charge anybody enough...doubt the value of what I have to offer. I think I'm going to spend some time meditating on that and see if I can name the issues.

Anyway, I just came from the free hour. I wasn't able to connect online (it's the $10 ISP, which hopefully will get replaced this summer), but it turned out there was also a call-in number. It was a very interesting and in many ways productive experience. Every single person who asked was trying to find their "higher purpose" or connect it to earning a living. Ms. Hess was very intuitive with many of them. I did finally pipe up and I felt less satisfied with what I heard, but maybe need some time to digest. I am still very tired from the past 9 months, and it always bothers me when intuitives don't pick up on my physical exhaustion and seem to imply I'm lazy. Uncommitted -- yes, right now. Mentally fried, cooking in heat and humidity, yes. But lazy? Hardly. Most people's weight issues would *vanish* if they worked on my farm for a few days. I was also stunned at her response to my having been in "regular" school for the last couple years. It turned me off, which is too bad because it shut down everything. I could just feel the energy drain out of the session. :shrug:

The sales pitch on the phone was extremely low key -- basically a couple times a mention that by joining the "inner member group" you could email questions in advance. The advantage there, thinking about it, is that you get to think through and appropriately frame you question, and get a more detailed and thorough response. There were only 2 or 3 emailed questions in the hour; way more call-ins.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. I'm just tired
Edited on Sat Jul-10-10 07:33 PM by GliderGuider
Tired of seeing garden-variety greed dressed up in New Age clothes and re-packaged as spirituality. But that's just my own stuff. As my partner says, everyone has their own lessons to learn -- one of mine is learning not to impose my version of a path on anyone else. Some days I'm better at it than others.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #42
43. I get ya
It's okay. You are a soul that is tired of watching people as they keep swimming through the same old shit. Sometimes it just seems like they'll never get it.



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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #42
44. I'm tired of it too, GG
and saddened and somewhat offended by it. I try to give the benefit of the doubt, so I investigate and am disappointed every time. Every single caller yesterday was trying to learn to make money by giving spiritual guidance...except me. I was practically sneered at for trying to make a living the normal way. Funny thing is, those same people who said "EEEWWWWW!" when I said I'd gone back to school for MLT will run to a regular physician at the first sign of a hangnail and be very grateful when a biopsy shows their cells are normal. I wonder if they would treat the tech that ran the tests with the same contempt they showed me yesterday? Or if it would be hidden beneath a veil of civility...

She left me with a bad aftertaste which persists today. I literally felt the energy suck out of me during our conversation, and it hasn't returned. Instead I've been battling depression ever since. That doesn't mean the techniques she offers in her tapes aren't useful, though, for healing my relationship with money.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #44
45. Well that's crappy
What's up with that.

Aaahhhh, they're all just human after all. Including all the teachers.

I have been searching my whole adult life. I've joined groups and left groups. I thought I'd found IT when I began going to a local Unitarian church. But they were human too. All the foibles and flaws were evident after a bit of time. Lust, greed, pride, wrath, etc. all in evidence across humanity, in every group and in every person.

Being a place of duality, these also have their opposites in as good a measure. And I hope more. The only thing I can do is clean up my part.

I work to bring through my true nature which is grounded in unity.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. it's ok...in fact it's more than ok...more in another post and then I'm back to cleaning house
and preparing for creative work...

The negative response to my regular schooling was very upsetting.

BUT...major synchronicity this morning, first up on GD and then it all came together!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

Yes, they're all human and I think it was her human side that took over in that moment :D
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. The universe works in strange and wonderful ways
I'm so excited for you. BTW, I've thought you are very brave and wonderful to take on the projects you are working on. That includes the schooling.

Perhaps that bit of crappiness yesterday was the undoing of some old structures in order to create the new stuff. I don't know, northernlights...
but it's amazing when it all works.

First the crappy comments put you in a state of chaos and then today it flowed into order. Chaos, order, chaos, order, chaos order, thar she blows!
:rofl:
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