Dowsing, Rods, Pendulum, Other, Psychic Stuff

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There was a wonderful discussion of this the other night on Coast to Coast, when the guest was Paul Smith, a remote viewer.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2010/05/25

I was wondering how many here have used dowsing rods? Because I have seen them used, but don't have any. The guest was talking about a time when he used something kinesiological rather than a pendulum. I am not sure what, but maybe used his body as a pendulum? At this point I am using finger muscle testing almost exclusively but I am thinking I need to experiment a bit more. If anyone has some additional insight into the various pros and cons of mrt versus pendulum versus dowsing rods, then I would love to hear it.

But the really important part of the show was the discussion of the attitude of the person using the pendulum. And, I feel that this would involve either "testing" something psychic, or manifesting, or receiving information. This isn't all that easy to do, but I thought I would just throw it out there. The person should feel invested in the outcome, should care, but at the same time, needs to "let go" of the results. So, the idea is care, but not too much. Manifest, and it either happens or it doesn't. Stewing about it, obsessing about it, getting emotional about it are all counter productive, and actually sabotage the process.

He gave this as an example: He is experimenting with dowsing for lottery numbers, and he has his students buy lottery tickets, because it helps them to be invested in the outcome. But, the lottery tickets can't be too big or they are TOO invested. I'm not sure what kind of luck he has had with this particular thing, but one of his students won $18,000 once. Dowsing for lottery ticket numbers is not really my thing.

I have to say that I 100% agree with the "attitude" thing though. When I did the manifesting with the symbolic wishing pattern, I was invested in the outcome, but I had let it go. Also I totally let my intuition guide me as to when I used it, and what I said. Then I let go of the idea of actually getting a result with it. But, since then, it has been a bit more difficult--it seems I am feeling I am judging the result, and the idea is NOT to judge the result. I have no idea why the universe works like that, but Smith compared it to being a Buddhist about it.

Anyway, it was a most interesting discussion, and if you have Streamlink I recommend this highly. I haven't actually finished it, though.

As a side note: I have always been great at looking at Craigslist at the exact right time when I need something, and I feel that this is because of my attitude. Yes, I am invested in it, and delighted at the outcome, but at the same time I don't really care, if that makes sense. It isn't be all, end all important to me. If I could just have that attitude about everything, the manifesting would be easier.

One reason I love making slideshows is that it is relaxing, and requires me to concentrate at the same time. I feel that it facilitates manifesting for that very reason. I was way more uptight and acting bizarre about the Gulf of Mexico situation before I made the slideshow. I still need to release more of the "investedness" to the universe on that, but it did help.

I think that all of the above may be the reason why when some psychics get too commercial ($$$) they actually lose their abilities.

I would love a discussion on any of the above...........

[Tumbulu]

1. I was able to douse for water

on my farms by just recognizing different feelings in my body. But when a real douser showed me how to use a branch of a tree it was much easier to see and feel confident about.

I have had no luck whatsoever with pendulums so far. But perhaps it is the attitude.

Perhaps someone like me (heavy earth) connects to something physical- underground waterways- versus the ephemeral, unpredictable, impressionable future.

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4. when I started using a pendulum

I first started using my body as a pendulum. And I would check for "allergies"--basically, "is this substance compatible with my energy field?" Fall forward was a yes, fall backwards was a no. I saw one of those Psychic Detectives shows and someone was able to locate a kid missing in the woods by essentially that method. The guy kind of went into a "zone" and his body made every correct turn, even though the kid was found several miles away.

[SheilaT]

2. The other thing with the lottery

tickets is you'd have to look at the odds of winning any given prize. Also, when you say the ticket can't be too big, does that mean the students don't dowse for the numbers when the payout gets to big? Also, exactly how does one dowse for lottery numbers?

Dowsing is one of those things that the professional skeptics dismiss completely. And other people think it's totally valid.

Interesting that you mention Craigslist in this context. Two years ago I used it for the very first time and found the absolutely perfect apartment for myself when I moved to a new city, new part of the country. I tried using it for a job search with mixed results. And recently I found the perfect office for a business I'm starting. And there was a difference in my degree of psychic investment in the outcomes. For the apartment and the office I felt I was simply checking out Craigslist, but didn't really expect to find anything that way. I was much, much more invested in trying to find a job.

[Celebration]

3. Ha, love that Craigslist anecdote--that is my experience!

I think it is a lot easier to dowse for water, or even something missing than it is for the future. There is even a study on dowsing for water. Water moving through rocks *must* create some sort of field that is pretty easily detectable. But dowsing can get progressively more difficult as other things are tried.

He (Smith) talked about dowsing the auric fields, and says he doesn't at all dismiss it. (This I do all the time, I think with success, but usually use mrt). But it isn't easily scientifically verifiable, so he isn't that interested in it.

There must be ZILLIONS of ways to dowse for lottery numbers. I think I would try to dowse for the location of the winning ticket first. But I think they were just dowsing for the winning number. Who knows? I am guessing they were just using the regular lotteries, not the Powerball or anything. He wanted them getting a two or five dollar ticket but not one costing fifty bucks or so. Not sure I remember the exact numbers. Have to say I am not a lot like this guy because I am mainly interested in dowsing auric fields and rather uninterested in dowsing for lottery numbers.

[Fire Walk With Me]

5. Any method of Divination works if you have intuitive skills and approach it without goals

and keep the ego out of the way. The ego always wants to -do- something, to be involved; it must be ignored.

Dowsing is completely legitimate, depending upon the dowser. I've done tea leaf readings, psychometry (photos in sealed envelopes, personal items), remote readings, automatic writing, talking with Guides, etc., and all are legit (I'm not deeply skilled with most of these, but have found enough functionality to confirm validity). I can easily say that depending upon the reader, pendulums and other methods all have legitimacy. Divination card decks, runes, etc. are included.

Sonia Choquette writes lovingly of many different types of spirit Guides and angels. One type are the Runners/Nature Guides, who specialize in locating items/people/situations beneficial to you, or lost to you. If you can get out of the way and get in touch with them, you can benefit from their most wonderful service. Highly honorable...

[Celebration]

6. ego, ego, ego

Yes, yes, and yes.

I guess I am not much into the personalization of energies from the universe. They generally present themselves to me in different ways rather than in the form of guides. Still, I do "entity" clearings even though nothing has ever really presented itself to me as an "entity", but rather a specific set of energies (detected with pendulum of course). I don't mind using the term "entity" to refer to those specific sets of energies, because it is out there in the collective consciousness.

[BanzaiBonnie]

7. I appreciate the way you have described "entity"

I also refer to these as "thought forms"

[Celebration]

8. yes

I am not exactly sure why my AK wants me to call these things "entities." I go with that, however strange it might sound. Most people think of entities in terms of being personalized, but I have to remind myself that in reality, it is just a piece of information.

I realize that the use of the term "entity" makes the slide shows I make seem a little weird for people a bit more normal than I am :rofl: Maybe my AK has me use the "entity" terminology because there is some reason that all this stuff shouldn't be in widespread use.

Here is all the terminology I am currently using--

Hex entity (maybe the most malicious?)
Lower Spirit Entities (something from another dimension we don't want?)
Disincarnate Beings (some energy form hanging around that is kind of contagious?)

Now, the disincarnate beings sound really freaky, but, again, I try not to look at this in a personalized way, just a potential negative energy transfer.

Weird, though, no matter what the terminology. Not something I could ever have imagined myself doing (with my traditional education, parents, etc.), but oh well.

I did test "thought form" as a terminology, and from my perspective, it is the more appropriate desciption for what is actually going on. Still, the terminology above is what I am "getting".

So be it. (Yikes)