Anybody do a reading on Cindy Sheehan?

[FreedomAngel82]

I'm wondering what the stars hold for Ms. Sheehan.

[icymist]

1. Maybe you could propose that be the question in our first reading....

for the experiment in divination?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x11236

[SpiralHawk]

2. If you can get her birth data and post it here...

then we will be off and running.

We need date, time, and place -- accurately. Dirty data gives useless results.

[Trillo]

3. FYI

I've looked extensively online for Sheehan's birthdata, it isn't 'out there.' Even though I hate using the phone to call someone I don't know personally (one of those 'Golden Rule' derivatives: I don't like getting sales calls from people I don't know), I tried calling Crawford Peace house yesterday twice, but no one answered, which wasn't really surprising given that they're busy and underfunded. I didn't call any of the cell-phones: I won't call cell-phone numbers due to the cost to the receiving party.

I'd like to have the birth data to the minute if its available, due to my mention of a Bush astrological chart pattern to a transit in another thread, but oftentimes in astrology I must accept that birthdata is not available.

Edited to add a phrase or two in the above, and for clarity.

[flpeach]

4. Here it is!!!

This was posted on the Yahoo PA group by their moderator, Judy Johns:

Cindy Lee Sheehan was born July 10, 1957 in Bellflower, CA

She currently lives in Vacaville, CA

Source: http://www.Peoplefinders.com



Edited to change year to 1957, posted wrong first time.

[Why Syzygy]

5. need the time .. lunar influence

[flpeach]

6. votesomemore . . .

I do not have the time of day, sadly. Maybe we can get someone to ask her!!

[flpeach]

7. a noon birth would put

the Moon exactly!! on her IC (at 4 degrees Cap).

I think MAYBE it would be earlier, so that the Moon is in Sag in the 3rd, a person speaking the truth to the media.

I am not an astrologer, so those more qualified please pitch in!!

[Trillo]

8. Also need time for higher harmonic studies.

For example, in the 49th harmonic, in a 24 hour period of time:
Saturn moves 2 (magnified) degrees,
Jupiter moves 7 (magnified) degrees,
Mars moves 30 (magnified) degrees, etc.

1957 was late enough that it's likely a time was recorded on her birth certificate. Cindy married a Patrick Sheehan. I have no idea what her birth name was.

[Cha]

10. I was born in 1944 and my time

is on my birth certificate.

I'm not an astrologer but am interested in it. I looked up Cindy's Planets on July 10, 1957 and she has Venus and Mars in Leo so it looks like she'll get them run over by Saturn just like bush will get his Planets in Leo blazed by Saturn.

Her Moon is in Sag or Cap(it changes that day) and Jupiter is in Virgo.

Mercury in Cancer.

Poor thing is getting hit hard now with her grief for Casey, her Mom, and the Smears. But she has some very good stuff going on with all the people who have come out to support her.

Stay strong, Cindy!

[Trillo]

11. Thanks zidzi!

There are various rationales about birth certificate times and their accuracy and/or absence!

Anyway, here are my astrological ramblings. I'm not sure why, but I've had a great deal of difficulty writing this out:

Cindy's natal Uranus has transiting Saturn bearing down on it now, and for some time to come. By November, transiting Saturn moves to conjunct her natal Mars/Venus conjunction, where it enters apparent retrograde to return and cross natal Uranus again in February or March 2006, passing it only by a degree or two, then it crosses natal Uranus again around May 2006, after Saturn returns direct. In July 2006, transiting Mars meets transiting Saturn near the midpoint of her natal Uranus and Mars/Venus points (this happens at about the same point as what I describe in the last paragraph).

I'm reminded of the words of Robert Hand, who wrote something to the effect that Uranus is the anti-dote to Saturn's strict discipline.

Right now, transiting Saturn on natal Uranus in Leo creates a bi-polarity between two opposing forces. On one hand, there's the inhibiting and shrinking effect of Saturn's discipline correlating to some sadness, seen perhaps in Bush's refusal to meet with her, perhaps in some pro-war types seeking to provoke her, as well as others lending strength to her resolve to persevere in her quest for answers, and on the other hand, there's also some inner caution and diplomacy balanced against the boldness of her peace vigil. Rather than just sitting back and accepting her son's death as okay, Ms. Sheehan is acting on her grief instead of being complacent and fatalistic about it.

As Saturn contacts her natal Mars/Venus point later this year, the dynamic changes. Ares and Venus have a well known passion for each other. When Saturn reaches this point, Cindy is likely to feel a sense of loss, the restriction of something close to her heart. She's felt that since the death of her son, but this is the symbolic focal point of this portion of her grief in this cycle of Saturn direct-retrograde-direct transits in her chart, perhaps this point in time is where she begins the process of acceptance and healing. It is a big deal!

In 2006, when transiting Saturn moves back in apparent retrograde to natal Uranus she'll see a continual unfolding of events, almost a deja vu of sorts to right now, but it won't be precisely the same. When Saturn returns to direct motion, it meets natal Mars/Venus again, when Saturn completes the process started in Aug 2005.

In the near term, transiting Moon is at aphelion on Aug 31, 2005, near the midpoint of natal Uranus and natal Mars/Venus.

I echo zidzi's closing remark: "Stay Strong, Cindy!"

[Viva_La_Revolution]

9. Just saw this..... I'll try to find time in the next few days...

You haven't found your cards yet huh?

[shockra]

12. She was born in the Year of the Rooster.

And this is a Rooster year, so it's a strong year for her.

I thought it was interesting what The Secret Language of Birthdays had to say about a July 10th birthday:

July Tenth -- The Day of Passive-Active Duality

Those born on July 10 exhibit a certain detachment their whole life long which can even manifest at their greatest moments of triumph. Personal traits of receptivity, protection, introversion and sensitivity are deeply ingrained in those born on this day, including the most active and outgoing ones. Thus an unusual personality emerges, one which can have drives toward worldly success yet frequently retreats into its own protected sphere.

Visual talents are particularly evident in those born on this day. July 10 people assimilate impressions from the outside world, either through quiet reflection or direct observation, and give them renewed freshness in their work. Because of their extreme sensitivity to what is going on around them they may prefer to keep a low profile and not call attention to their private life. However, when activity is required to further their career or simply to acquire what they need they will not hesitate to emerge in strength.

In patiently observing the world, July 10 people develop their own personal philosophy, one that does not necessarily have a strong moral bias. Those who hold anti-establishment viewpoints may live for their personal politics, and later come to be regarded as saints or sinners for their deeds.

Verbal talents are generally not highly developed in July 10 people. Most are quiet, preferring to observe and act at their own pace. Their lunar nature (as Cancerians) may lend them an unusual charm and appearance that others often find strange -- qualities that make them fascinating or repellent in the eye of the beholder.

More conservative July 10 people are capable of leading very modest, even anonymous lives. Their way of seeking refuge from the world is by blending in with it and remaining unnoticed. Yet at certain critical points in their lives -- adolescence, mid-thirties, mid-fifties notably -- they are likely to surprise their family and friends by making a sudden departure from their otherwise passive self into a more active mode of existence. Usually they have been gearing up for this change for some years and have a clearly defined purpose.

July 10 people are not afraid to speak their mind, but generally do so with tact and discretion. Sometimes overly sensitive to the feelings of others, they may compromise their own needs, postpone life decisions and generally soften their desires, to avoid inflicting pain. Such a tendency to procrastinate or deny themselves, to avoid facing the natural facts of their existence invariably works against them. They must beware of waiting too long and thus losing valuable opportunities.