Would you use frames in your website?

[Deja Q]

Even if you included code that would force the loading of the frameset if somebody found a page and tried to load it on its own?

[RoyGBiv]

1. Nope ...

I find websites that do this obnoxious.

I flirted with it at one point as a way of holding together the inegrity of an entire site, but I figured out rather quickly I was limiting my audience, and I found simpler, more browser friendly ways to do what I originally intended.

That said, the only sites I've put together are informational and educational with an audience of history buffs and those in school. Making information available to as many people as possible in as generic a format as possible was the goal. I can think of a few reasons why one might want to do this, most of them related to commercial sites or those that require some degree of security to view the inner pages of a site.

[Deja Q]

2. My pages are commercial.

And there is some added flexibility with menu design. Ditto for the layout/appearance too.

I usually don't like them. OTOH the amount of menu redundancy is asinine and those who made HTML never bothered to allow in-page linking to other HTML code. (apart from the iframe, but I've never been keen on it...) :(

[salvorhardin]

5. That's what server side includes are for

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html

Another way to do it would be to use PHP to just echo the menu code stored in another file.

Yet another, more complex, way to do it would be with a PHP templating engine like Smarty.
http://smarty.php.net

Frames are evil. Thankfully I can say I've only done one website in them in all the time I've done web development (started in 1996).

[KitchenWitch]

3. I fucking hate frames

:grr:

[FormerDittoHead]

4. I put frames up there with background midi files & splash screens n/t

[Angry Girl]

6. I hate frames and

I don't know how to build them. So no, I wouldn't use them....