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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:49 AM
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"Windows Security" notice -- with Shield . . . is this legit or not?
How can something pop up using the Windows Security Shield notice . . .

How can you tell the real thing vs a fake?

How can this go on?

I obviously have something interferring with searches --

Windows Security Shield notice popped up telling me it was a bunch of stuff and

wanted to remove --

If you hit "remove all" ... my Avira anti-virus pops up blocking it saying it is a virus???

Evidently Mysoftprot.com???

Can't do a search without interference -- unless you're very presistent!

Doesn't the actual Windows Security program object to having someone imitating them?

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:54 AM
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1. Malware
Get Malwarebytes Antimalware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:08 PM
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2. Presume you're saying Windows Security Shield is "Malware" . . .???
Or are you saying get malware . . .

If so, I have "Malwarebytes" on my computer . . . ????

Thanks for the response --

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:23 PM
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3. k
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:01 PM
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4. The 2nd tuesday of every month MS sends out its monthly fixes. Depending on your setting in
control panel->automatic updates you will see the small shield notifying you that updates are ready. Make sure they are from Microsoft before you install.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:30 PM
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5. No . . . this was a pop up notice from Windows Security with the Shield emblem . . .
citing viruses and stuff and telling me they had to be deleted --

When I attempted to DELETE . . . Avira -- my new pain in the ass virus protection --

blocked it --

I've never seen a monthly notice from Microsoft --



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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:07 PM
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6. They prolly look a lot like these....



"I've never seen a monthly notice from Microsoft"

That goes a LONG way in explaining why your computer is in the condition it is presently in. I am running Windows XP Service Pack 3 and I have all these Updates, bug fixes, security patches & "Hotfixes" installed on my machine from those "monthly notices":

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes
.NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
KB958481 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
KB974417 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
.NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2
KB958483 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
.NET Framework 3.5 SP1
KB958484 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
KB963707 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
.NETFramework
1.1
S867460 on 8/10/2004 (details...)
M953297 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
CAPICOM
KB931906 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
MSXML 6 Service Pack 2 (KB954459)
KB954459 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
MSXML4SP2
Q827429 on 10/14/2006 (details...)
KB925672 on 10/14/2006 (details...)
KB927978 on 11/15/2006 (details...)
KB936181 on 8/16/2007 (details...)
KB954430 on 11/12/2008 (details...)
KB973688 on 12/1/2009 (details...)
Step By Step Interactive Training
SP2
KB898458 on 12/28/2005 (details...)
KB923723 on 2/14/2007 (details...)
WGA
SP0
KB892130 on 9/4/2009 (details...)
Windows Media Format 11 SDK
SP0
KB929399 on 3/15/2007 (details...)
Windows Media Player 10
SP0
KB911565 on 2/21/2006 (details...)
KB917734_WMP10 on 7/11/2006 (details...)
Windows Media Player 11
SP0
KB939683 on 9/16/2009 (details...)
KB954154_WM11 on 9/16/2008 (details...)
KB959772_WM11 on 3/14/2009 (details...)
SP2
KB936782_WMP11 on 8/16/2007 (details...)
Windows Media Player 6.4
SP0
KB925398_WMP64 on 12/14/2006 (details...)
Windows Media Player
SP0
KB911564 on 2/21/2006 (details...)
KB952069_WM9 on 12/17/2008 (details...)
KB954155_WM9 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB968816_WM9 on 9/9/2009 (details...)
KB973540_WM9L on 8/12/2009 (details...)
Windows XP
SP-1
KB909520 on 10/4/2009 (details...)
SP0
KB941569 on 12/12/2007 (details...)
KB969897-IE8 on 7/15/2009 (details...)
KB971930-IE8 on 7/15/2009 (details...)
KB971961-IE8 on 9/9/2009 (details...)
KB972260-IE8 on 7/29/2009 (details...)
KB973874-IE8 on 10/4/2009 (details...)
KB974455-IE8 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB975364-IE8 on 10/28/2009 (details...)
KB976325-IE8 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB976749-IE8 on 11/3/2009 (details...)
SP10
MSCOMPPACKV1 on 1/10/2007 (Microsoft Compression Client Pack 1.0 for Windows XP)
KB971513 on 10/28/2009 (details...)
SP3
KB936929 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
SP4
KB915800-V4 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB923561 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB938464 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB938464-V2 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB942288-V3 on 10/15/2009 (details...)
KB946648 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB950582 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB950759 on 6/11/2008 (details...)
KB950760 on 6/11/2008 (details...)
Windows XP
SP4 (continued)
KB950762 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB950974 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB951066 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB951072-V2 on 8/14/2008 (details...)
KB951376 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB951376-V2 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB951698 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB951748 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB951978 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB952004 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB952287 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB952954 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB953838 on 8/14/2008 (details...)
KB953839 on 8/14/2008 (details...)
KB954211 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB954459 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB954550-V5 on 10/3/2009 (details...)
KB954600 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB954708 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB955069 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB955759 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB955839 on 12/17/2008 (details...)
KB956390 on 10/15/2008 (details...)
KB956391 on 10/15/2008 (details...)
KB956572 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB956744 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB956802 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB956803 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB956841 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB956844 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB957095 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB957097 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB958215 on 12/17/2008 (details...)
KB958644 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB958687 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB958690 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB958869 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB959426 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB960225 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB960714 on 12/19/2008 (details...)
KB960715 on 2/11/2009 (details...)
KB960803 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB960859 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB961118 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB961371 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB961373 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB961501 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB963027 on 4/16/2009 (details...)
KB967715 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB968389 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB968537 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB969059 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB969897 on 7/12/2009 (details...)
KB969898 on 7/12/2009 (details...)
KB969947 on 11/11/2009 (details...)
KB970238 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB970430 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB970653-V3 on 8/26/2009 (details...)
KB971486 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB971557 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB971633 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB971657 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB971737 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB972270 on 1/12/2010 (details...)
KB973346 on 7/15/2009 (details...)
KB973354 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB973507 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB973525 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB973687 on 12/2/2009 (details...)
KB973815 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB973869 on 10/7/2009 (details...)
KB973904 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB974112 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB974318 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB974392 on 12/9/2009 (details...)
KB974571 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB975025 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB975467 on 10/14/2009 (details...)
KB976098-V2 on 12/2/2009 (details...)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:54 AM
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7. No . . . I mean in 10 years or more of having computers with "Windows" on them . . .
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 10:55 AM by defendandprotect
I've never seen a monthly report!

This is my third or fourth computer -- it was new --

The other ones were used -- from office replacement stuff --


And the pop up notice that I was talking about said "Windows Security" . . . and was

using the shield that my computer uses for security.

When I tried to go with the notice and "Remove" . . . Avira stopped it -- and

no way to get thru it.

Later I removed Avira and haven't seen that pop up again --

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 11:16 PM
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8. there is a Fraudulent malware that is really common, it says you need to run a scan and,
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 11:26 PM by sam sarrha
download their software.. it looks ligament, but it is designed to totally freak you out.. it takes you to their site to sell it to you, if you aren't really quick it will totally take over your computer. if you try to Google a repair you will only get infinite pages of links to their site..

i shut it down, turned the PSU off, pulled the cable off.. and went to my wifes computer and put a download of Cnet's MaleareBytes on a CD, brought my BIOS up, changed the Boot to the CD, some older only boot on floppy's, started the computer... it downloaded and ran before booting, i got rid of it.
http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000... ;pop

this is what they look like....
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/rogue.aspx

my wife wasn't so lucky, she got it twice, it damaged the Operating System, i'm getting a better Anti-Virus for both computers.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 11:20 PM
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9. there is a little gold shield for automatic updates in the tray..
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 04:35 AM
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11. Which AV were you using? Just curious. n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 05:32 PM
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16. one of Cnets freeb's.. couldnt afford a good one at the time
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:24 AM
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18. I don't understand the CD part
"and put a download of Cnet's MaleareBytes on a CD" How do you boot a CD with just an EXE file? :shrug:

Is their such a thing as MaleareBytes boot cd?

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:59 PM
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24. Re the 2nd link .. . about halfway down...that's the shield ...but says "windows security" . . .
WHAT BETTER ANTI-VIRUS ARE YOU GETTING....???

I'm expecting to do a reinstallation and will pick up some security disc to put

on the machine -- I understand the value of that now vs something you download.

I hear that Norton is #4 in security . . . who are the top three and where do you

buy these programs?

I know PC Richards has some of their own brands ---

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 06:11 AM
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12. 95% of the infected computers I see
Have automatic update on and ALL the patches. Having all that doesn't fix the underlying problems with both Windows and Internet Explorer.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 06:39 AM
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13. Agreed. WinDOZE & IE are highly vulnerable, especially older versions like XP
Which is the OP's OS-IIRC.

My point, however, was to address the OP's statement: "I've never seen a monthly notice from Microsoft", which indicates that he/she has Updates turned off and is surely missing CRITICAL patches/fixes etc, thereby putting the machine in a state of INCREASED risk of infection and reduced effectiveness, NOT to blame it (Malware) entirely on the missing patches

That goes a LONG way (emph added) in explaining why your computer is in the condition it is presently in...


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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 06:55 AM
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14. I turn OFF automatic updates on my computers
All I have is XP and SP3 installed on 2 machines. 2 more have XP X64. The other 3 run various flavors of Linux and my laptop has 7 on it-primarily because of driver issues with other OS's.
None of my Windoze machines have been infected for at least five years-and that one was from an infected CD someone gave me.

Most infections are caused by the Human 1.0 Interface cl8icking on something they shouldn't.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:18 AM
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15. Mine is set to check with me before downloading & installing.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 07:24 AM by Earth Bound Misfit
I then choose custom rather than express at MS Update, choose what I want & ignore the ones I don't want or NEED.

ETA: I run XP SP3, IE 8 on my 5 year old Dell laptop.


Whatever gets you through the night! :thumbsup:

Whatever gets you through the night 'salright, 'salright
It's your money or life 'salright, 'salright
Don't need a sword to cut through flowers oh no, oh no

What a GREAT tune. RIP, John, you are missed.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:02 PM
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25. Good lord . . . is there possibly any reason for reinstalling windows??? I mean . . .
how do we have so many defective products we are using -- from this Microsoft crap

to toaster ovens!!

Banks -- charges everywhere -- and Congress does nothing!!

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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 04:02 AM
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10. If they say say Windows Security SUITE or look like any of these...
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 04:29 AM by Earth Bound Misfit
They're Malware.













I've found two fixes for this ROGUE Program, BOTH of which require using MalwareBytes Anti Malware (which I and MANY others have been telling you for nearly 2 months...Just sayin'...)

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-wi...
http://www.myantispyware.com/2009/07/06/how-to-remove-w... /

I suspect, however, that the Windows Security SUITE ROGUE PROGRAM (which is the ***REAL*** PAIN IN THE ASS HERE, NOT AVIRA OR AVG OR ANY OTHER AUTHENTIC Anti-Virus programs you've used)
is BLOCKING the AUTHENTIC Malware removal programs from running.

There are workarounds for this

My first response to your first topic on this problem (in early December http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... ) contained instructions to post your problem on a Malware removal Forum, where you would receive INDIVIDUALIZED FREE EXPERT ADVICE to aid in removing this thing. You chose to ignore them, instead choosing the SHOTGUN approach you are using here. I PM'd you and asked you to provide PRECISE DETAILS...You chose to ignore that too, instead you chose to provide VAGUE (at best) descriptions here. Just sayin', I'm not trying to be snarky--these are the FACTS.

.

Please check your PM inbox. If you choose to ignore my PM, too, You're on your own.

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:56 PM
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21. probably thinks 17% of your advice is contaminated
don't stress that the OP doesn't absorb information

hate to see any of you great computer forum gurus get frustrated by those who can be deliberately ignorant when there are innocent ignoramuses like me who need and appreciate your help! ;)
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:04 PM
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22. No worries.
Stress? Hardly. GURU? Not so much, but thanks for the kind words!

BTW, I answered your AVG question.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:06 PM
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26. That's NOT it . . . It uses my security shield . . . it says "windows security" . . .
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:24 PM
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17. Earth Bound Misfit is giving you some excellent advice.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 08:24 PM by Jazzgirl
www.bleepingcomputer.com and www.computerhelp.com are excellent sites to get help ridding yourself of malware. I have been reading your threads as well but you aren't taking suggestions very well. Check out either or both of those sites and they can help get rid of whatever ails your computer.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:53 AM
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19. Thanks, Jazz...one question--
How did they get this picture of ME on their homepage?



Tee-Hee
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:49 AM
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23. LOL @EBM.
I had it lifted from your computer and sent it to them! :evilgrin:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:12 PM
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27. I'm certainly NOT ignoring anything helpful . . .
Bleeping computer is a very interesting sight ---

but -- again -- I could learn to take my car apart and put it back togeether again

in the time all of this takes.

PLUS, not all of the advice is readily understandable to me -- takes a lot of time

to figure it out. And, sometimes you can't!

So -- again -- NOT ignoring anyone's advice . . . but it either works for my level

of knowledge or it doesn't!


When I first came here what I wa asking about was "Reinstalling" -- which seems a great

deal easier than all of this?

Further, anyone here who can read sees that there are immense problems with Microsoft

Windows and IE -- why botheer with them? Rather Linux seems like a more viable solution!?



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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:33 PM
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20. I fell for it, so be careful.
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