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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 04:46 PM
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NEW animal news page Man sentenced for animal abuse
I just found this site. It looks great so far. It is new to me anyway.

http://www.animalconcerns.org



McMINNVILLE, Ore. (AP) -- A Carlton man who wrapped a chain around the legs of a fallen horse and dragged the dying animal across a field behind a tractor has been sentenced to four days in jail.

But Yamhill County Deputy District Attorney Meuy Chao says she will file a motion for reconsideration. Chao says Robert Greiner, 64, should get 45 days behind bars.

Judge Cal Tichenor also sentenced Greiner to 200 hours of community service, ordered him to pay the veterinarian bills of his remaining horses and barred him from any contact with pets for five years. Greiner pleaded guilty to two counts of animal neglect.

Full story: http://www.animalconcerns.org/external.html?www=http%3A...

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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:32 PM
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1. This whole situation was bullshit.
His excuses obviously bullshit, and for a punishment, someone should tie *his* legs together and drag him behind a vehicle.

However, this statement brings a question to mind:

Ten lesser counts were dismissed. "I was just trying to help the horse the best I knew how," he told Tichenor.


What if animal abusers and neglecters were required to take a class about animals, their ability to think and feel, and their proper care? I know that it takes a pretty pathological person to abuse an animal, but does anyone think that something like this would help prevent repeat offenders?

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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:54 AM
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3. I don't know if you can teach someone to be compassionate ...
toward people or animals. I think it depends on the abuser. Thinking about child abuse cases, there are times when, after the parents have taken parenting classes, they stop abusing. They didn't have the knowledge before of proper parenting skills, became overwhelmed, and turned to abuse, usually because that was the only thing they had seen when they were children. I think in cases like that, knowledge does end the abuse. I think classes might work for someone who, say, leaves a dog chained out in the backyard all the time. I had an acquaintance who was a fairly decent human being in every other way, but she got a dog and left it outside all the time, until her other friends and I found out and "schooled" her about it. She was very upset and taken aback. We convinced her to give the dog to a friend of ours since she just didn't want it in the house. She just never realized that dogs are social animals. She thought they were merely objects without feelings or emotions.

Now, with those cases, I think the education would work. Maybe they just don't know, as my friend didn't, and once she did, she did do the right thing by letting the dog go to a good home where it would be loved and cared for. I don't think everyone would change, because some people are stubborn, but I think there's a chance.

In other cases -- the really sickening cases of abuse, I think often times the abuser likes the suffering of the animal or child or spouse or random victim. That to me is a completely different situation and I doubt any sort of education would change that, unfortunately.

Anyway, JMHO.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:32 PM
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2. That full story, bottom link, is very sad. Poor horse.
It does seem like a good site for information. That cruel idiot in Oregon is so despicable. I hope his horses find some peace on this planet after living in that hell.
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