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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:19 PM
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Vegetarians are more likely to die of heart attacks than meat eaters?
OMG! You have to listen to these lectures. Some really disturbing findings, but also some great info!

http://www.veganmd.com /

Click on "Talks On-line"

And listen to "Optimum Vegetarian Nutrition"

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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:27 PM
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1. Wow.
Just finished listening to the first 15 minutes or so. Very interesting findings so far, and I am hoping it starts sounding beter soon! :scared: I am off to finish making dinner and then I will listen to the rest!

BTW, is it just me or does this guy have a rather annoying speaking voice? He sounds like "Duckie" from Pretty in Pink. :P
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:44 PM
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2. LOL! I thought that too! He sounds just like Jon Cryer.
The info does gets better.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:25 PM
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3. I just finished the lecture...
That was an EXCELLENT link! After the first few minutes, I realized that even though I may think I am being healthy simply by being a vegan, I really nee to supplement my diet!

Even though his speaking voice about drove me over the edge, the information was extremely motivating! I suggest all of our other DU veggies listen to this! I even took notes :D

I am going to listen to his other lectures sometime this week too! Thanks so much for posting!

Meg
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:34 PM
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4. You're welcome.
I listened to his other lectures. They are great too!
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:39 PM
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5. I can't listen to that...
can you at least give us a clue as to why we're more likely to die of heart attacks?
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:26 AM
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6. I second that.
Besides the fact that I smoke too much and drink too much, the last thing I need is one more reason to have a heart attack.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:54 PM
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7. Lack of B12 and Omega-3
Also a problem with zinc and possibly calcium.

So, eat flax seed to get the Omega-3, and make sure you get B12 from either a supplement or better yet, veggies with B12.

It was a good lecture although his voice was definitely grating on the nerves. His data were from some very large sample size studies, and show that vegetarians and vegans had the same probability of dying of heart attacks. His analysis is that we don't get enough B12 and Omega 3.

So....make sure you get your B12 and Omega-3.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:41 AM
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8. Flax is your friend................... absolutely
Since vegan bread is not available here in hicksville, Nebraska, I make all of our bread from scratch. I work some whole flax seed or whole flax meal into every single bun, loaf or crust produced.

Gothic, I still don't get where you got the title of this post from, you vegan devil you............... :P
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