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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 04:54 PM
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A Bioengineered Future in Deep Space
A Bioengineered Future in Deep Space
NASA’s Human Research Program is all about risk reduction, finding ways to counter fatigue and mitigate radiation damage, among other potential issues in space travel. But what if a different kind of program had evolved? After all, back in the 1960s the agency was looking into the much broader question of how a human being might be adapted for space. The notion grew out of a 1960 article by Manfred Clynes and Nathan Kline called “Cyborgs and Space,” suggesting that re-creating the environment of Earth aboard a space vehicle was not as useful an option as adapting a human being at least partly to the conditions he or she would face.

Bioengineered Humans, what an idea. Humans changed to where the weightlessness of space is home not the ultimate alien climate. Cyborgs. This is a great idea, but if we can bioengineer a Salmon to grow faster, what could we do to change the human genome to live in space. Perhaps we make ships filled with water and turn humans into dolphins.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:32 PM
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1. I agree. The Luddites will cry bloody murder, though.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:42 PM
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2. Military ultra-deep divers breathe a liquid solution, not air
"Liquid immersion provides a way to reduce the physical stress of G forces. Forces applied to fluids are distributed as omnidirectional pressures. Because liquids cannot be practically compressed, they do not change density under high acceleration such as performed in aerial maneuvers or space travel. A person immersed in liquid of the same density as tissue has acceleration forces distributed around the body, rather than applied at a single point such as a seat or harness straps. This principle is used in a new type of G-suit called the Libelle G-suit, which allows aircraft pilots to remain conscious and functioning at more than 10 G acceleration by surrounding them with water in a rigid suit.

Acceleration protection by liquid immersion is limited by the differential density of body tissues and immersion fluid, limiting the utility of this method to about 15 to 20 G.<48> Extending acceleration protection beyond 20 G requires filling the lungs with fluid of density similar to water. An astronaut totally immersed in liquid, with liquid inside all body cavities, will feel little effect from extreme G forces because the forces on a liquid are distributed equally, and in all directions simultaneously. However effects will be felt because of density differences between different body tissues, so an upper acceleration limit still exists.

Liquid breathing for acceleration protection may never be practical because of the difficulty of finding a suitable breathing medium of similar density to water that is compatible with lung tissue. Perfluorocarbon fluids are twice as dense as water, hence unsuitable for this application<49>. On the other hand, although perfluorochemicals are denser than water, lung tissue floats within the PFC filled lungs, and if the lungs are not over-filled, there is no compromise in pulmonary or systemic blood flow<50>. Therefore, if the astronaut is immersed in liquid and their lungs are filled with liquid PFC, they should not experience adverse effects, in spite of the almost twofold density difference. Based on interviews with adult patients that experienced partial liquid ventilation, when they became conscious they were unaware that 20-30 ml/kg of PFC was in their lungs during recovery."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing#Total_liquid_ventilation
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 08:30 PM
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3. Interesting link; thanks for finding it. (nt)
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:37 AM
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4. Gratis
I thought the movie "The Abyss" had an interesting take on liquid breathing. Also, "2010: The Year We Make Contact" featured total liquid immersion to combat extreme G forces during space flight acceleration and deceleration.
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