Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

With smoking deaths, United States would be in the top half of the longevity

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Health Donate to DU
 
steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:58 AM
Original message
With smoking deaths, United States would be in the top half of the longevity
The American Healthcare System is really good at treating disease but most disease is not caused by lack of healthcare. It is caused by lifestyle choices. Smoking, drunk driving and teenage pregnancies with attendant premature infants skew the longevity data that unfairly blames the healthcare system.




...a prominent researcher, Samuel H. Preston, has taken a closer look at the growing body of international data, and he finds no evidence that Americas health care system is to blame for the longevity gap between it and other industrialized countries. In fact, he concludes, the American system in many ways provides superior treatment even when uninsured Americans are included in the analysis.

No one denies that the American system has problems, including its extraordinarily high costs and unnecessary treatments. But Dr. Preston and other researchers say that the costs arent solely due to inefficiency. Americans pay more for health care partly because they get more thorough treatment for some diseases, and partly because they get sick more often than people in Europe and other industrialized countries.

But there are many more differences between Europe and the United States than just the health care system. Americans are more ethnically diverse. They eat different food. They are fatter. Perhaps most important, they used to be exceptionally heavy smokers. For four decades, until the mid-1980s, per-capita cigarette consumption was higher in the United States (particularly among women) than anywhere else in the developed world. Dr. Preston and other researchers have calculated that if deaths due to smoking were excluded, the United States would rise to the top half of the longevity rankings for developed countries.

For all its faults, the American system compares well by some important measures with other developed countries, as Dr. Preston and Ms. Ho enumerate. Americans are more likely to be screened for cancer, and once cancer is detected, they are more likely to survive for five years.

To Explain Longevity Gap, Look Past Health System
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:01 AM
Response to Original message
1. cart meet horse
if the U.S. wants to provide public healthcare then it can decide whether we're "allowed" to smoke or not. Until then, the nanny state will just have to wait a bit.

"lifestyle choices" that phrase just gives me the creeps.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:10 AM
Response to Original message
2. So if we just took some deaths out of the stats, "the United States would rise to the top half"?
How impressive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joecool65 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
3. Without
red meat, sugar, processed foods, alcohol, lack of exercise, and any other lifestyle choice, the US would be in the top half.
Now, where can I collect the stipend for my study?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
4. S, if Americans weren't so fat, quit smoking and had abortions
when pregnant at a young age, our health statistics would be much better. I guess no one is fat, smokes or gets pregnant at an early age in any other country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:09 AM
Response to Original message
5. Where there's smoke...
...there is a smoking thread.

:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul 11th 2014, 06:35 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Health Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC