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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:09 PM
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Preparation CV 247 for cancer treatment
This compound was originally developed for and tested on dogs. It was subsequently used by humans, volantarily I'd guess, apparently with some success. The doctor who developed it whilst in the UK is now in Hungary.

Here's the important bit. If/when subsequently fully approved for human use as a matter of routine none of the four components even when combined would require a medical prescription - would be straight over the counter just like a packet of Bandaids.

This might be a bit wordy for some but details are here :

Preparation CV 247 has been on clinical trial in Great Britain for the past two decades on
dogs suffering from malignant neoplasia. Results showed an improvement in the general
condition of most of the treated dogs and in a smaller proportion of cases antitumour effect
has also been observed. The use of the preparation appeared to promote the regression or at
least impede the progression and spread of some histologically identified malignant tumours
and slow down or even prevent the predicted regrowth and/or metastasis of some surgically
removed malignant tumours.
The CV 247 preparation is also being tested in human patients in Great Britain. It appears to
be effective or the basis of results so far in patients suffering from prostatic cancer.

http://www.ivymedical.com/docs/Protocol_for_the_Hungari...

I'm only aware of this subject becasue it was featured on our TV News tonight. Would sure screw the drug companies if found to be successful especially given that the PDF gives the recipe.

More here too : http://www.ivymedical.com/history-product.html

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:22 PM
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1. Thanks for that - interesting.
Copper kills fungi.
Good source of copper is cocoa.

Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is good for cancer, so is salicylate.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:24 PM
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2. I'm sure that TV
they mentioned antioxidant properties - sound right ?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:25 PM
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3. Wow, if it was on the tee-vee machine, it's gotta be good. n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:51 PM
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8. Best not judge
the BBC in comparison with what you've got in the USA.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:33 PM
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4. One problem
From the PDF

A change of diet is an integral part of CV 247 treatment. (It should be rich in green and root vegetables, vitamins and fibre and should contain liver and fish as protein source).


They are changing more than one variable at a time. That makes it impossible to determine which variable caused any specified result.

It's just bad science. That's all.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:36 PM
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5. Not really
the dietary part has been in use here since the early eighties - it's called the Bristol diet.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:41 PM
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6. So all the test subjects were on that diet when they got sick?
It doesn't say that in the pdf does it?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:50 PM
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7. You wanna be sick
try platinum chemo. This is a volantary alternative - no more than that at present. When push comes to shove those with only a predicted short term left will try almost anything and one such person from the UK , who'd recovered , was interviewed in that program.

I hope you never get cancer but if you do then just die if it suits you better.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:56 PM
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9. It is a bogus "study", your emotional arguments don't change that.
If you change two variables at the same time, the conclusion of the study has no validity.

This may be a cure for cancer, but the study you linked to will not prove that.

It's bad science. That's all.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:31 AM
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11. Big Pharma will just flat out hate this and try hard to oppose it
BP will come out with opposing studies by their own "scientists".
And Big Pharma is nice enough to write the reports for these "scientists",
making their work oh that much easier and oh so predictable.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:29 AM
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10. If I'd seen the words "over the counter" at first, I would have recommended sooner
WOW.

Sounds hopeful and maybe affordable.

Cancer treatment is expensive and devastating.

Its worth looking into.

Big Pharma would hate it though, since it could lead the way towards
less expensive cancer treatments.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:59 AM
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12. 28 of 37 patients "had no worthwhile response"
That was the Phase II trials.

Of the 7 patients with progressive early prostate cancer, 6 (86%) had PSA stabilisation and improved quality of life (mean duration 8.3 months).


That doesn't sound like a cure for cancer to me.
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