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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:51 PM
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FDA: Possible Risk From Dental Fillings
June 5, 2008 --

http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20080605/fda-dental-filling-risk-possible

On its web site, the FDA has dropped much of its reassuring language about dental amalgam. And it's added what amounts to a warning: "Dental amalgams contain mercury, which may have neurotoxic effects on the nervous systems of developing children and fetuses."

And there's more. "Pregnant women and persons who may have a health condition that makes them more sensitive to mercury exposure, including individuals with existing high levels of mercury bioburden, should not avoid seeking dental care, but should discuss options with their health practitioner," the FDA web site now says.

The changes come in response to a lawsuit filed by consumer groups and individuals concerned about mercury exposure. To settle the suit, the FDA agreed to update its web site.

And the federal agency also agreed to rule -- within one year -- on exactly how dental amalgam products should be regulated, and exactly what warnings consumers should receive from their dentists and doctors.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:53 PM
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1. I have one that I have to switch out.. because it effects my body negatively.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:56 PM
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12. Your physiology must be astonishingly feeble
One amalgam filling? Unless your tooth is the size of a football, the amount of mercury that you could absorb from it--even in principle--is less than you'd get from a few cans of tuna.

If your system is so easily rattled then you have my sympathy, but it is grossly unlikely that your single amalgam filling is at fault.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:55 AM
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14. It has changed my hormone level slightly that it causes me to miss
normal periods.. so, yes, it must come out.. especially since the damn thing chipped last year....

But thanks for playing.. Know MY body...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:00 AM
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16. I see. And you know that it's this filling that's doing all these nefarious things to YOUR body?
How have you determined this, other than by anti-amalgam propaganda, guesswork, and a big ol' shot in the dark?
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:22 AM
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46. Dental amalgam documented to be largest source of mercury in people who have several amalgams
Dental amalgam documented to be largest source of mercury in people who have several amalgams
(according to medical studies and hundreds of thousands of medical lab tests- and Gov't agencies)
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html

and mercury from amalgam documented to be a common cause of over 30 chronic health conditions
www.flcv.com/indexa.html

and the majority with many of these conditions report significant health improvement after amalgam replacement
www.flcv.com/hgrecovp.html
www.flcv.com/hgremove.html
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:54 PM
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2. Mercury! It's good for ya!
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 12:55 PM by Hydra
:puke:

At least they are admitting the POSSIBILITY that the above statement is not entirely correct.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 12:57 PM
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3. Had all my mercury fillings replaced in the '90s
no telling how much damage the darned things did.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:54 PM
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11. Exactly. No telling.
Yet I'm guessing that you assume that they caused considerable harm?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:54 PM
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26. But do you know what they were replaced with?
And what damage does the new material do?


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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:09 PM
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4. a problem ...
If you happen to be over the age of 50 or so, you probably have quite a few of these old fillings. Over time, they turn into crowns ($1,000 a pop).

The problem with having them all removed and replaced is that the mercury vapors immediately burst out of the filing when it is removed, thus causing a large hit of it to end up in YOUR MOUTH where it is absorbed.

It is almost a no win situation for many. Slowly, most of my old fillings have been either replaced or have become crowns. I still have a few big ones left and I have no intention of doing anything to them at the present time.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:36 PM
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6. AFAIK I still have a bunch in my upper jaw.My childhood dentist did some serious drilling on us kids
All the molars.... We all were good brushers, but I bet we also had deep fissures, like the ones I had sealed on my own kids.

You're right about those old fillings ending up as crowns. Also root canals. My lower jaw is full of 'em.

It makes me wonder how well my poor brain cells will hold up over the next 20 years.

Hekate
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:17 PM
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7. those replacements could end up being root canals as well
it is often best to leave something alone if it is not bothering you. I have some of those HUGE fillings left too. The last one lasted almost 30 years and was made into a HUGE gold crown about a year ago. I was scared sh*tless to be honest with you and paid extra for nitrous oxide.

Luckily it turned out to be painless - something I cannot say about prior dental experiences. :scared:

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 04:18 PM
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9. I know. I have a tendency to get abcesses now. One really spooked me by its subtlety...
...There was no pain. I was sick for two or three months -- absolutely no energy, and when my sis came out here to go to a memorial service with me I simply handed her my car keys and passed out in the passenger seat rather than drive the hundred miles myself.

Later on when I returned to the endodontist for a one-year check on a root canal he'd done I insisted that he x-ray a tooth I had started to suspect, and sure enough there was a humongous shadow at the bottom. Mucho the antibiotics and by-by roots. And then I got well again.

Old-style dentistry --> my late mother also got a lot of abcesses in middle age, but with each one she lost the entire tooth. She used to wait until the thing came up and drained -- honest to gods, looking back I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would do that, given how sick (or even dead) an infection like that can make you. :-(

Hekate

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:57 PM
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27. FYI, there are new evacuation systems designed to suck the vapors away.
My system evacuates to the outside of the building (post filtration).

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:35 PM
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5. Not this bull-shit again.
The mercury in dental amalgams is in a tightly bound compound. It isn't going anywhere. It has been in use for well over a hundred years. And it is just lately causing problems?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:58 PM
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25. ...
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:25 AM
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47. That is documented to not be true- amalgam is largest source of mercury in people and sewers
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 10:29 AM by philb
people with several amalgams- amalgam largest source - 10 times that of those without on average according to medical lab tests
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html

The mercury in amalgam is not chemically bound, and is documented to escape continuously, so there are high levels in the saliva and oral air of all those with several amalgams. Plus, the metals in the mouth cause galvanic currents that take the metals into the body, accumulating as "amalgam tattos" at the base of teeth with amalgam before being dispursed throughout the body and to the brain, etc. Likewise EMF from appliances causes currents that take the mercury into the body. www.flcv.com/galv.html

Because of this its also largest source of mercury in sewers, and major source in water bodies ,fish, etc.
www.flcv.com/damspr2f.html

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:22 PM
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8. Thanks to 4moronicyears we have the facts here.
CONCLUSIONS: In this study, there were no statistically significant differences in adverse neuropsychological or renal effects observed over the 5-year period in children whose caries were restored using dental amalgam or composite materials. Although it is possible that very small IQ effects cannot be ruled out, these findings suggest that the health effects of amalgam restorations in children need not be the basis of treatment decisions when choosing restorative dental materials.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16622139?dopt=Abstract


CONCLUSIONS: In this study, children who received dental restorative treatment with amalgam did not, on average, have statistically significant differences in neurobehavioral assessments or in nerve conduction velocity when compared with children who received resin composite materials without amalgam. These findings, combined with the trend of higher treatment need later among those receiving composite, suggest that amalgam should remain a viable dental restorative option for children

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16622140?dopt=Abstract
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:53 PM
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10. Who cares about the facts when the sky is falling? The sky is falling!
Phooey on you and your direct quotes from the abstract!
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:38 AM
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15. Well, randomized trials are a waste of time
When you can get all the information you need from the Health Scare Forum.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:03 AM
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19. Thank you, 4moronicyears, for providing some truth on the matter!
Excellent links.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:19 PM
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29. Seems there are those who would disagree with the all knowing
all seeing gods of American medicine.



B. THE OFFICIAL CONFESSION OF THE DANGER OF AMALGAM.

The National Health Service of Denmark, Sundhedsstyrelsen, answered some questions by the Parliamentary Committee following my audience: Oct. 24, 2001 it wrote:

“The adviser of the Health Department calls attention to the neurotoxicity of inorganic mercury. Further, he states, that organic mercury is strongly neurotoxic with extensive damage on the central nervous system and the peripheral nerves. The department agrees, but these cases of severe chronic poisoning are not to be compared with the minimal amounts of mercury released from tooth fillings of silver amalgam and absorbed in the organism”.

The amounts are, however, not at all minimal as stated by the Norwegians and the Swedes.

The Norwegian authority, Helsedirektoratet, Oslo, issued new Guidelines for the use of materials for tooth restorations, valid July 1, 2003. On pages 10 and 14:

“It has been known for long, that mercury is being released from amalgam fillings, and during the latest decades comparatively much documentation has appeared showing, that more Hg is released than previously assumed and more is absorbed in the human organism.

During the latest 10-15 years it has been documented, that Hg from amalgam fillings is traced in unwanted places. It has been established, that the amount of Hg in the brains of dead people correlates with the number of amalgam fillings. Hg penetrates placenta and the concentration of Hg in the fetus correlates with the number of amalgam fillings of the mother. The amount of Hg in breast milk increases with an increasing number of fillings of the mother. People with amalgam have more Hg in body fluids than people without.

Although amalgam has been used for more than 100 years and is the substance that contributed most to save the Norwegian people from toothlessness, there is great agreement, that amalgam fillings is an essential part of the exposure of Hg in the general population. It is known that Hg in high doses is leading to disturbances in the function of the brain, kidneys, the immune system and the development of the fetus. There is no base to set a lower limit for a non-dangerous influence.”

In opposition to DK: “To-day dentists have more good alternatives to amalgam. None of them replaces amalgam for all indications, but taken together, they cover the whole area”.

The Norwegian conlusion: Advice against the use of amalgam.

In May 2003 the Swedish Government received the Dental report. Prof. Maths Berlin, a former chairman of the WHO committee on Hg, had been commissioned to update his risk analysis of 1997. Medline 1997-2002 gave more than 700 references out of totally 3.600; they were read and assessed. A lot of risks were identified.

Prof. Berlin in Oslo May 29, 2000 (official report p. 89-90):
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 02:12 PM
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31. So, you contradict yourself
And you still pretend to have credibility?

When you post studies that say the opposite it just shows how confused you are. You seem to be completely disoriented. How can we believe or trust a person who says "no" one minute and "yes" the next minute. You have shot your credibility.

Like I said in another post, your message is scatter brained. And now you show that it is unreliable.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:06 PM
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32. Why focus on me when the truth is right there in front of you?
This is not about me or a couple of studies that supposedly support the exotic notion that the Hg in dental amalgams is safe. This is about the truth that the Europeans have already admitted to and the lies that are still being told in this country. This is as much about the politics of it as it is the biological reality of it.

Again I say, watch this video.

http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/showcase/curtains.php?src=http://apollo.ucalgary.ca/mercury/movies/Lor2_QTS_700kb_QD.mov&screenwidth=512&screenheight=400&curtains=no
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:21 PM
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35. Which truth? You proved that amalgam is safe.
I see that truth clearly. You posted those studies yourself. They found no significant statistical difference between amalgam fillings and composite fillings.

It is not an exotic notion. It was published in a peer reviewed journal, JAMA. It was a FIVE YEAR study. It was conducted by Children's Hospital Boston and Harvard Medical School.

If you don't believe them, why did you cite those studies?

Why are you willing to believe quacks and frauds like the Geiers instead of Harvard Medical School?
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Ayesha Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:04 AM
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13. An alternative explanation
I personally believe that mercury fillings are dangerous due to the mercury, but there is another reason besides that why they can make people sick. They are simply an inferior quality material that breaks down in a short period of time compared to alternatives. In addition, metal is very sensitive to temperature changes. It expands and contracts, allowing food particles and bacteria to become trapped. This decay and infection can cause and/or worsen health conditions. Resin and porcelain fillings do not have this problem. All of this information comes from my partner's dentist. She has numerous mercury fillings and is unable to work due to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia. She has a lot of decay in those fillings, and has also been told (by a different dentist) that the amalgam was improperly mixed. The second the drill touches them, they liquify. I don't think they caused her illness necessarily, but they sure are not helping. Hopefully once they are replaced, her body can stop fighting the infection and start repairing itself.

Mercury fillings should be banned IMO. There are many superior materials available, why take the risk?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:01 AM
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17. It's deliberately misleading to call them "mercury feelings"
When your french fries need more salt, you don't say "please pass the chlorine," do you?
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Ayesha Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:14 PM
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22. No, but
Food labels and such do refer to the "sodium" content of foods!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:45 PM
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23. LOL!
That's about the best answer I've heard so far!

Well done! But not too well done, because char-broiled foods contain carcinogens.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:57 AM
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24. FYI: Metal does expand and contract, but it takes a higher degree of temperature change
than is found inside a human body. Any temperature change that would affect an amalgam would kill you before the metal began to significantly expand/contract.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:08 AM
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18. HA I always knew dentists were dangerous
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:10 AM
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20. I've had amalgam fillings basically my whole life.
When my permanent molars came in, because we lived on well water (non-fluoridated), our dentist decided to take a "proactive" approach to protecting my very pitted teeth: he gave me pre-emptive fillings. Hard to say whether that was necessary, but I lived with them ever since, and have never had any chronic health problems or even any significant health issues whatsoever. (And I've gotten all my vaccines, AND have drunk pasteurized milk by the gallon. By all health woo accounts, I shouldn't even be here.)

Anyway, in the past couple of years I've had the two biggest amalgam fillings in my mouth replaced with gold crowns. Since my health was already excellent, I can't say that it's improved, nor has it gotten worse. Still the same.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:42 PM
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21. Ergo, mercury and gold are the same thing
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 09:23 PM by Orrex
You've just achieved a centuries-old dream of alchemy! Next stop, the philospher's stone!
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:00 PM
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28. The greater risk is to the dentists who use amalgam and those DDSs who remove it.
Blood tests have revealed higher mercury levels in dental office staff - especially assistants and the practitioners.


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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:07 PM
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33. Ditto that. Absolutely true, cosmically speaking. n/t
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:53 AM
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48. Documentation of significant exposures and adverse effects on dental staff from amalgam

www.flcv.com/dental.html

But blood tests are good way to test for mercury. Mercury vapor (from amalgam) lasts in the blood on average less than 10 seconds before its circulated throughout the body and transferred into cells in organs. Magos et al, 1999
So blood tests measure only very recent or acute exposures.

Similar problem with urine tests. Fecal test (www.doctorsdata.com) is the most accurate test for daily exposure level.

or a urine test while taking a chelator. Many cann't excrete mercury and accumulate it, which means they are much more likely to have adverse health effects www.flcv.com/suscept.html

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:21 PM
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30. Video of Hg destroying growing nerve cells.... interesting.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:20 PM
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34. To the poster who politely stated "Not this bullshit again"....



Mutter J, Naumann J, Schneider R, Walach H.

Institut für Umweltmedizin und Krankenhaushygiene, Universitätsklinik Freiburg (Franz Daschner), Breidacher Strasse 115b, 79106 Freiburg i. Brsg. [email protected]

Higher mercury concentrations were found in brain regions and blood of some patients with Alzheimer's disease (AD). Low levels of inorganic mercury were able to cause AD- typical nerve cell deteriorations in vitro and in animal experiments. Other metals like zinc, aluminum, copper, cadmium, manganese, iron, and chrome are not able to elicit all of these deteriorations in low levels, yet they aggravate the toxic effects of mercury (Hg). Main human sources for mercury are fish consumption (Methyl-Hg) and dental amalgam (Hg vapour). Regular fish consumption reduces the risk of development of AD. Amalgam consists of approx. 50 % of elementary mercury which is constantly being vaporized and absorbed by the organism. Mercury levels in brain tissues are 2 - 10 fold higher in individuals with dental amalgam. Persons showing a genetically determined subgroup of transportation protein for fats (apolipoprotein E4) have an increased AD risk. Apoliprotein E (APO E) is found in high concentrations in the central nervous system. The increased AD risk through APO E4 might be caused by its reduced ability to bind heavy metals. Latest therapeutic approaches to the treatment of Alzheimer disease embrace pharmaceuticals which remove or bind metals from the brain. Preliminary success has been documented with chelation of synergistic toxic metals (Fe, Al, Zn, Cu) and therefore also Hg. The available data does not answer the question, whether mercury is a relevant risk factor in AD distinctively. In sum, the findings from epidemiological and demographical studies, the frequency of amalgam application in industrialized countries, clinical studies, experimental studies and the dental state of Alzheimer patients in comparison to controls suggest a decisive role for inorganic mercury in the etiology of Alzheimer's disease. Other factors currently discussed as causes (e. g. other metals, inflammations, dietetic factors, vitamin deficiency, oxidative distress, and metabolic impairments) may act as co-factors.

PMID: 17628833

1: Gesundheitswesen. 2005 Mar;67(3):204-16.Click here to read Links

Comment in:
Gesundheitswesen. 2006 Apr;68(4):e1-6; discussion e6-15.




Mutter J, Naumann J, Walach H, Daschner F.

Institut für Umweltmedizin und Krankenhaushygiene, Universitätsklinik Freiburg. [email protected]

Amalgam, which has been in use in dentistry for 150 years, consists of 50 % elemental mercury and a mixture of silver, tin, copper and zinc. Minute amounts of mercury vapour are released continuously from amalgam. Amalgam contributes substantially to human mercury load. Mercury accumulates in some organs, particularly in the brain, where it can bind to protein more tightly than other heavy metals (e. g. lead, cadmium). Therefore, the elimination half time is assumed to be up to 1 - 18 years in the brain and bones. Mercury is assumed to be one of the most toxic non-radioactive elements. There are pointers to show that mercury vapour is more neurotoxic than methyl-mercury in fish. Review of recent literature suggests that mercury from dental amalgam may lead to nephrotoxicity, neurobehavioural changes, autoimmunity, oxidative stress, autism, skin and mucosa alterations or non-specific symptoms and complaints. The development of Alzheimer's disease or multiple sclerosis has also been linked to low-dose mercury exposure. There may be individual genetical or acquired susceptibilities for negative effects from dental amalgam. Mercury levels in the blood, urine or other biomarkers do not reflect the mercury load in critical organs. Some studies regarding dental amalgam reveal substantial methodical flaws. Removal of dental amalgam leads to permanent improvement of various chronic complaints in a relevant number of patients in various trials. Summing up, available data suggests that dental amalgam is an unsuitable material for medical, occupational and ecological reasons.

PMID: 15789284

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:23 PM
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36. Why don't you post the CONCLUSIONS of the studies?
Have you read the studies or are you just faking it again?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:22 PM
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37. The frigging conclusion is that the governments of EUROPEAN
countries have elminated amalgam. Now you tellin' me that you are smarter than all of them. Give me a break, a very very large break. Time to wake up there rosebud.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:37 PM
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38. Link????? Or are you making that up???
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 05:38 PM by cosmik debris
Show that conclusion.

All you have shown is an abstract.

We have already seen how much trouble that can get you into.

Remember citing 18 studies that you said supported your point? You hadn't read ANY of those studies.

And you did not post the conclusion of those studies.

And it turned out that NONE of them supported your point. NONE!!!!! NONE AT ALL!!!

(Of course I know you are just making up that part about the conclusion of the study. You haven't read it, you can't read it. And you certainly can't post it. I doubt if you can even find it.)

Your con game is getting old. If that's the best you've got, you've got nothing.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:40 PM
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39. ...
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/05/11/mercury_toxic_amalgam_unsuitable_for_dental_restoration.htm

B. THE OFFICIAL CONFESSION OF THE DANGER OF AMALGAM.

The National Health Service of Denmark, Sundhedsstyrelsen, answered some questions by the Parliamentary Committee following my audience: Oct. 24, 2001 it wrote:

“The adviser of the Health Department calls attention to the neurotoxicity of inorganic mercury. Further, he states, that organic mercury is strongly neurotoxic with extensive damage on the central nervous system and the peripheral nerves. The department agrees, but these cases of severe chronic poisoning are not to be compared with the minimal amounts of mercury released from tooth fillings of silver amalgam and absorbed in the organism”.

The amounts are, however, not at all minimal as stated by the Norwegians and the Swedes.

The Norwegian authority, Helsedirektoratet, Oslo, issued new Guidelines for the use of materials for tooth restorations, valid July 1, 2003. On pages 10 and 14:

“It has been known for long, that mercury is being released from amalgam fillings, and during the latest decades comparatively much documentation has appeared showing, that more Hg is released than previously assumed and more is absorbed in the human organism.

During the latest 10-15 years it has been documented, that Hg from amalgam fillings is traced in unwanted places. It has been established, that the amount of Hg in the brains of dead people correlates with the number of amalgam fillings. Hg penetrates placenta and the concentration of Hg in the fetus correlates with the number of amalgam fillings of the mother. The amount of Hg in breast milk increases with an increasing number of fillings of the mother. People with amalgam have more Hg in body fluids than people without.

Although amalgam has been used for more than 100 years and is the substance that contributed most to save the Norwegian people from toothlessness, there is great agreement, that amalgam fillings is an essential part of the exposure of Hg in the general population. It is known that Hg in high doses is leading to disturbances in the function of the brain, kidneys, the immune system and the development of the fetus. There is no base to set a lower limit for a non-dangerous influence.”

In opposition to DK: “To-day dentists have more good alternatives to amalgam. None of them replaces amalgam for all indications, but taken together, they cover the whole area”.

The Norwegian conlusion: Advice against the use of amalgam.

In May 2003 the Swedish Government received the Dental report. Prof. Maths Berlin, a former chairman of the WHO committee on Hg, had been commissioned to update his risk analysis of 1997. Medline 1997-2002 gave more than 700 references out of totally 3.600; they were read and assessed. A lot of risks were identified.

Prof. Berlin in Oslo May 29, 2000 (official report p. 89-90):
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 05:52 PM
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40. WRONG--Not even close.
That is not the conclusion of a scientific study. It is a copy of an mail exchange posted on a web site.

And you pretend that your mail exchange is better than a randomized trial conducted by Harvard Medical School and published in JAMA. That's laughable!

That's just LAME.

You cited two studies done in Denmark. Show the conclusions of those studies. PMID: 17628833 and PMID: 15789284

But you can't. All you have is some guy's web site with some emails posted on it.

You are pathetic.

You have nothing approaching scientific evidence. You are just full of hot air.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:08 PM
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41. Why all the hate?? If you are comfortable with Hg in your blood
kidneys, and other organs that's fine. I prefer not to have it... that's my choice. You say amalgam does not off gas Hg, that's a lie and has been proven false time and time again. It has been found at several times the mother's blood level in the umbilical cord. If you believe Hg is good for a developing fetus then that is your madness... so be it. I prefer to get my Hg from fresh water fish, it's so much better, does a body good.

Perhaps you should look up transgenerational toxicity. Perhaps you should come out of your comfortable scientific paradigm and see the forest for the trees.


http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/index.cfm/fuseaction/display.abstractDetail/abstract/1773
Surveys in California have indicated an apparent 210% increase in the cases of profound autism in children diagnosed over the last 10 years. Recent estimates indicate the frequency of mild to severe autism may be as high as 1:150 (Lord et al 2000). Thus there is growing concern from both parents and health professionals that prenatal and postnatal exposure to xenobiotic (e.g. mercurials, halogenated aromatics, and pesticides) and biotic (e.g. vaccine antigens) factors may act synergistically with unidentified susceptibility-genetic factors to produce autistic spectrum disorders.. To understand how the interaction of susceptibility genes with exposure to "environmental" chemicals may increase the risk and severity of autism and to identify which combination of chemical exposures confer the greatest threat, we propose to establish an interdisciplinary Center that addresses this complex problem at several levels.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:15 PM
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42. So, I guess you admit that you didn't read the studies?
You are just blowing smoke. You certainly did not read the conclusions reached by the researchers. You just made that up. Your credibility takes another hit. No one will ever believe a person who makes up their science. No one will ever believe a person who pretends to know stuff that is not true.

Just pathetic.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:28 PM
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43. Call Norway, Sweden and those other countries that believe in
fake science.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:44 PM
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44. They made a political decision, not a scientific decision.
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 06:44 PM by cosmik debris
Your own post prove the safety of amalgam.

And it is OBVIOUS now that you did not read the studies you cited.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:37 PM
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45. They made the smartest gd decision a government assigned to
protect its citizens could make. They are HEROES in a sea of half truths and yet undiscovered etiologies.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:15 AM
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49. Your study has been found problematic; there are thousands of credible studies
readily available at National Library of Medicine (NIH) www.nlm.nih.gov
that document adverse health effects from mercury

and lots of studies documenting adverse effects from amalgam
www.flcv.com/amalg6.html

plus the fact that dental amaglam is the largest source of mercury in sewers and a major source in environment and fish
www.flcv.com/damspr2f.html
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:18 AM
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50. Dental amalgam common cause of MS, Lupus, Thyroiditis, etc.- documenation
The following National Library of Medicine abstracted article documents that most autoimmune conditions like Multiple Sclerosis (MS), Lupus (SLE), Thyroiditis, etc. are primarily caused by mercury from dental amalgam, and replacement of dental amalgam brings about cure or significant improvement in the majority of cases. This has similarly been demonstrated in other clinics and studies.

The beneficial effect of amalgam replacement on health in patients with autoimmunity. Prochazkova J, Sterzl I, Kucerova H, Bartova J, Stejskal VD; Neuro Endocrinol Lett. 2004 Jun;25(3):211-8.
http://www.melisa.org/pdf/Mercury-and-autoimmunity.pdf

Results of lymphocyte reactivity measured with MELISA indicate that in vitro reactivity after the replacement of dental amalgam decreased significantly to inorganic mercury, silver, organic mercury and lead.
All 6 patients with MS showed significant improvement in health.

Out of 15 patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) 11 (73%) had improvement of health.

Out of 8 patients with autoimmune thyroiditis 6 showed significant improvement in health (75%).

5 patients undergoing amalgam replacement had atopic eczema for which other studies have found more diverse factors in autoimmunity causes. 3 out of 5 of these patients had significant improvement in condition (60%).
Of the patients that did not have evidence of significant improvement, most tested immune reactive to nickel and the autoimmunity measure was not improved at the end of the study. For those whose condition was worse, the autoimmunity measure for nickel was higher at the end of the study- indicating that amalgam replacement did not resolve the source of nickel exposure.

The mechanisms by which mercury causes autoimmune conditions like MS, SLE, autoimmune thyroiditis, rheumatoid arthritis, Parkinson’s, etc. is documented by hundreds of peer-reviewed studies and in thousands of people who have recovered after amalgam filling replacement and detoxification.
http://www.flcv.com/ms.html


And there are lots of other studies and clinical trials as well that document that the majority of those with such conditions
have health improvements after mercury detox
www.flcv.com/hgrecovp.html
www.flcv.com/hgremove.html

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