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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:17 PM
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Vitamins are made in China
I was very alarmed and disappointed when I read that most vitamins we buy here in the U.S., and/or the product(s) in them, come from China. I contacted the vitamin companies I buy vitamin from. One (a very expensive, little known brand) said that their vitamins are manufactured in the U.S., but that they import the products that go into their vitamins, from China. However, they advised, they use excellent quality control. :-O The other (a very famous brand) said they couldn't tell me where the products came from, but that they were checking into it and would know within 2 weeks. ????

Here's an article about the vitamins we buy here in the U.S., and a snip from it:


http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_blog/Most-Vitamins-Ar...

You may be surprised to know that China is actually one of the largest exporters of many drugs and vitamins. About 90 percent of all Vitamin C sold in the United States is from China, for example. They also produce 50 percent of the world's aspirin and 35 percent of all Tylenol. Ditto for the majority of Vitamins A, B12 and E.

Hot on the heels of the poisoned pet food scandal, and reported instances of toxic food and toothpaste, all eyes are now turning toward the Chinese vitamin market. How safe are they?

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:20 PM
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1. How many people do you know who've died from them?
I don't know of any. So my response would be, considering they come from China, they seem to have an amazingly good track record so far.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:23 PM
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2. I'd rather not have to worry if my vitamins have anti-freeze in them or not
Chinese-made products, unless they're cultural items, are to be avoided at all costs.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:26 PM
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5. Your peace of mind has nothing to do with the actual safety of the vitamins.
Forgive me for actually addressing reality instead of theoretical and hypothetical impending doom.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:29 PM
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8. You mean the tainted products recently coming from China have no basis in reality?
All the people who got sick and died from those 'made in China' products must've been imagining it.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:40 PM
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11. They weren't vitamins and you're well aware of that.
As I said in another reply that's rather voluminous, vitamins seem to have a clean record so far. I don't want to go around comparing apples and oranges willy-nilly. Apparently you do. If that makes you feel better, fine. It does not make me feel better, so I do not engage in it.

...The bottom line for me is, the people who got sick from 'made in China' products got sick from particular substances. They did not get sick just from virtue of the fact the products were made in China, in and of itself. If there's something threatening in the vitamins, someone should cough up something specific, some specific taint. Surely labaratories have been checking these vitamins for such taint. If anyone's found such taint, let it be proclaimed to the heavens.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:10 AM
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18. Also remember about Truth in Labelling...
China does not have that so its hard to tell if you are really getting 100% pure Vitamin C for instance or maybe a pinch or two of Vitamin C with a lot of sugar or other inactive ingredients. You would not be able to tell if you were getting worthless junk instead. Thats been another problem with the Chinese...fake meds. Fake vitamins (cheaper) would not surprise me in the least
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:24 PM
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4. Death isn't the only known effect
of consuming tainted goods. I think it's a reasonable question.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:35 PM
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9. I'm not saying it isn't a reasonable question, but the evidence is just not there.
Considering the MASSIVE amount of things made in China, the amount of goods that go horribly wrong are a comparatively tiny number. As for vitamins in particular, well, as with many chemical products, the third world has been where this stuff has been made for some time now, even if it's directly on behalf of first world countries. I can only speculate as to why this has not been screwed up, since to the best of the existing knowledge, this has not been screwed up. So why?

In the other cases, the common theme I can see is a) a cheaper substitute is being employed to slash costs, b) there is an expectation that no one will notice the change until it is far too late and the original manufacturer has plenty of money from the process. I am no expert in vitamins but, scientists, on a chemical level, know damn well what are vitamins and what they aren't; they're very specific chemicals. And, what goes along with the active vitamins themselves does not seem to be all that terribly complex. So, the simpler the process, the harder it is to make changes that will reduce costs and that won't be noticed somehow. Also, vitamin makers probably have longer term relationships with the pharmaceutical corps and don't want to mess those up.

But I fear that I'm just messing up a good scare with facts. Certainly, I'm a test-test-test, don't trust, do verify kind of guy. But if vitamins are being tested, and zippo has come up to suggest they are dangerous, and this is a trend that has been maintained for quite some time, they're probably pretty safe. I just fail to see how anyone here will be satisfied with probabilities and historical trends and so on.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:38 PM
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10. A voice of reason, yours is much appreciated.
Especially when I too tend to get all doom and gloom at times.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:28 PM
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6. True. You don't know.
I also don't know how many (or if any) have died from brushing their teeth with imported Chinese toothpaste containing arsenic, but it was removed from the market. Why would it be, if you and I don't know of any case of anyone dying from that here? Could it be because long-term poisoning with arsenic is harmful, even if you don't drop dead immediately? I don't know.

I want to buy vitamins that are manufactured locally, from local products.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:24 PM
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3. There are doctors who compound their own formulas
Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 08:24 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
for supplements (not vitamins, though). My doc has a compounding pharmacist in the next town over who makes up things like digestive enzyme tablets and chelation suppositories. And our local ND is going to have a class on finding and growing your own medicinal plants and how to make them into tinctures, salves, etc. We have quite a few folks doing that around here.

My doc is very particular on what vitamins she recommends--I'll let her know about this and make sure that vitamins she suggests are made here.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:44 PM
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12. Did you know that the retail drug behemoth Walgreen's is looking to get into...
...the compounding end of the business? I learned that from a Walgreen's district manager who spoke at my kid's school on Career Day.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:48 PM
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13. This doesn't surprise me
a lot of prescriptions are for compounded drugs as well -- especially dermatological preparations.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 06:34 AM
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16. No
but if they do, it will be interesting to see if they outsource it. I checked through all my supplements today-some just said "distributed in the US" (these were ones I got at a retail drug store), while others said "Manufactured in---" and put the US state where it was made in the blank. These I got at my doctor's office.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:28 PM
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7. Aspirin.
I hadn't known about aspirin. Thanks.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:40 PM
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14. Is there any perishable product that we use daily that is not made
in China? A half century ago, the USA was largely self-sufficient. Now we have a $ 200 billion annual trade deficit with China and are dependant on them for virtually everything. Incidentally, Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) has pointed out that electronic components for our "smart bombs" are made in China.

If China ever gets mad at us they'll cut off our vitamins and eviscerate our bombs.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 10:40 PM
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15. Corporation greed has made us dependent on China
Only if we make it too expensive for corporations to manufacture goods in China will corporations begin to manufacture products here. Otherwise, we'll be stuck brushing our teeth with antifreeze and eating bread with arsenic.
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OllieLotte Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 11:21 AM
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17. Don't forget that consumers want to save money.
Frequently they will buy the cheapest item, regardless of quality or source.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:57 AM
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19. So they may be ingesting poisons.
I take vitamins regularly. I purchase them from what I believe to be quality stores (Whole Foods, Wild Oats, etc.), but what worries me is that I may be getting more than my daily requirement of vitamins. This is really bad. There should be labeling where the vitamins are made and not just who distributes them.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:09 AM
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20. What is really scary, in Nov. 2004 I was taking a boatload of
vitamins: B, C, E, Omegas, etc. and I was rushed to the hospital with rapid heartbeat. They could never figure out what caused it. Since then, I stopped taking all supplements and get my vitamins naturally from organic foods. Knock on wood, no more issues.

I often wondered if something poisoned me, I got kidney stones in 2001 from too much Vitamin C.

Now I am getting a clearer picture. :yoiks:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:16 AM
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21. yep, and vitamin E poisoning
Is becomming a REAL issue in this country (despite someone upstream claiming no one has died from vitamins, thats not really true or at least they are getting very sick). Most of this is from people overdoing it on their own but since China has no labelling laws that they enforce right now, who knows what concentrations are really in those bottles, or what else may be in there.
Most doctors will tell you that if you eat properly you don't need additional supplements or vitamins.
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