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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:20 PM
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I met a hero last night
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 10:34 PM by dsc
Last night my school's quiz bowl team, for whom I am the advisor, competed. On one of the opponents team was Jarred Gamwell, who caused quite a stir last year by running as an openly gay student for class president. http://www.aclu.org/LesbianGayRights/LesbianGayRights.c...

He seems like a nice kid but it was very nice to be able to meet someone who put himself on the line to advance all of our causes. It isn't often you get to meet the people behind stories like these, and to be honest I wasn't able to talk to him for long, but I hope to both see and hear more of him in the future. Sadly his team beat ours but those are the breaks.
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:54 PM
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1. He is brave but it was wrong to run on a 'gay' platform
He was just looking to stir up trouble.
Too bad the ACLU wastes time on stuff like this.
He has a right to run for office, his sexual appetite is
a different matter.
I don't want to see a sign saying 'hetro guy with an eye for
Hunt High' either. Kinda creepy, definitely out of place.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:58 PM
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2. There is some context there
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy was taking off as he ran. While I would have run a different campaign too if I had been him I can see what he was doing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:14 PM
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:18 PM
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4. He was running for class President
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:18 PM by dsc
one earns spots on quiz bowl teams. Incidently, just how issue filled do you honestly think the usual student government election is?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:55 AM
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:48 PM
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5. I'm sure that must have been a real pleasure....
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:49 PM by Rowdyboy
Takes a lot of guts to be open like this kid is in high school. I certainly didn't have the guts until I was much older so I admire him for his self-awareness at such a young age.

As to those who criticize his campaign for using his homosexuality-I beg to differ. The young man has every right to run any race he chooses. Would I run that race? No, but I have no idea of the kid's history and so am in no position to judge his motives. More power to him.....
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:17 AM
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6. After living here for a relatively short time
I can say it had to have taken some major guts, though evidently his school is way better than mine is in that regard. Things are very, very slowly getting better down here.
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:16 AM
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10. 'Gayness' is now celebrated in schools?????!!!!!!
Okay, I nominate this for fucked-up post of the day.

Newsflash, sweetie, gayness is not celebrated anywhere, unless you consider a serious beat-down a "celebration."

I'm straight and I can see this. But I guess homophobia takes over the part of the brain that controls logical thought.

Don't worry, sweetie. They're not coming to ass-rape you. You can calm down.
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:24 AM
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11. Sorry to repost, but I have to add....
I'm straight, and I was beat up for being "gay." The fact that you think it's being "celebrated" either means you're too old to know what modern high schools are like, or you're in fucking denial.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:49 AM
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12. Things have changed a bit
but gayness celebrated in rural North Carolina schools, not just no but Hell no. I know from some of that young man's friends that he got threatened repeatedly and attacked once after he ran that race.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:28 AM
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13. i don't think so...
or haven't you been listening to
dobson
the secretary of education
doma
don't ask don't tell
well, really the list longer than this --
but it won't be in anybody's lifetime that posts here that gayness doesn't matter to the str8 masses.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:06 AM
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14. ain't that the truth
I had hopes that in my dottering old age, assuming I make it to that, I would see a time when I would be considered just like anyone else but I know that won't happen now.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:03 AM
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15. I finished school in 1997
Which is not so very long ago.

'Gay' was generally the insult of choice, thought it was generally directed without reference to people's sexuality.

It was a boys' school, which certainly raised such issues; however, it was also a Grammar School (that is, academically selective), which made for a very different atmosphere one more directed towards work. Also it was very much middle-class, and in general (in England) the middle-class are less prejudiced.

Two boys came out whilst still at school. One did so very openly, and the other quietly to a few friends (he was bi not gay). In both cases there were no reprisals at all towards them.

Gayness certainly was not celebrated, but things were not as bad as in former times - also not as bad as in many (or most) places today.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 09:27 PM
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16. Ridiculous.
If I posted, "Pigs seen flying over Louisiana and Illinois" - it wouldn't make it true.

However, if you would care to back up your assertions with a little supporting evidence, I would read it (anecdotal observations don't count).

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
-94114_San_Francisco

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:44 AM
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17. indeed.
all i can think of were the soldiers who got their heads bashed in re? don't ask don't tell{cause we'll kill ya} or had their careers ruined.

out here. in the bay area mind you, it hasn't been two years since a transgendered highschooler was beaten to death.
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