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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:07 PM
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Do you see the 'Zarqawi is dead' thing as too soon and convenient
after the whole drummed up hoopla about defending marriage? I do. Now that the right wing don't have defending marriage from gays as their agenda, how conveniently is a 'master' terrorist blown up?! That sure took everyone's attention away from what was planed to disturb America, to what is really at America's gut... the War On Terror! Frankly, both of these are orchestrated for political gain (mainly from Republicans) and they hold your fear for their gain. When I say gain, it's mainly money and sometimes power. These people don't care what you think, say, or do, they just want what they want. Period. Scary part is that we all- most voted them in office without knowing their real intentions to sell everyone of us to corporations!

If this sound like a science-fiction novel, I'd suggest you would look around before you can't.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:13 PM
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1. Also - Rove who?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:19 PM
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2. I don't know about all that, but the INFORMATION MANAGEMENT
was profound. They did NOT want this story out yesterday, though they KNEW it had happened yesterday. They waited, and let the Iraqis make the announcement (shoulda moved those US and Iraqi flags a bit further apart, IMO, to make it sorta look like an independent move--better for the Iraqi audience, anyway--but then, who knows where THEIR camera was positioned?) and they started broadcasting the "breaking news" in the wee hours of the morning, to make DAMNED sure it got covered on all the morning news shows.

Conveniently, the cable networks, who usually repeat the same old shit over and over in the dead of night, and go to BRIT feeds for breaking news at three AM, magically had good old AMERICAN talking heads readily available to read the transcripts of the news reports, which, for BREAKING NEWS, were surprisingly well edited and read without a hitch...it sure didn't sound like something that was "just coming over the wire."

And it turns out, it wasn't. The whole business was staged and spoon fed so that it would OWN the news cycle today. Here's hoping some blonde doesn't go missing and ruin it for them!

How do I know this? I fell asleep on the couch after a wonderful meal of turkey, and woke up at zero dark thirty to see all the hoopla as it first unwound!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 02:32 PM
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3. I live on the west coast and I saw it unfold live, as well.
Very astute observations! :thumbsup:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:01 PM
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5. isn't it odd that we had to blow him up?
I mean, don't we have the whole freaking U.S. army and national guard and marines there? You mighta thought we could have captured him alive instead of lobbing two five hundred pound bombs at the neighborhood and wiping it off the face of the map.

Isn't that kind of weird?
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progressivegunowner Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 11:35 PM
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6. Not Really
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 11:38 PM by progressivegunowner
Bombs are easy to use, and don't put any of our soldier's lives in great peril, such as trying to capture him alive would. Besides, I don't think this guy would have cooperated with live capture, and likely would have fought until he was killed.

I also would have to agree with MADem that it is weird that they waited so long and speaks of a conspiracy, but then again, maybe they wanted to be sure he was dead. Hmm...
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:14 AM
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7. we put people's lives in peril all the time for information
the point of capturing him is to get at that information if it could save other lives, and to prosecute justice.

That's what America is supposed to stand for.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist myself - I think we just blew him up because it made good PR.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:24 AM
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9. I don't think they were necessarily being conspiratorial, just "managing"
the news. They had a lousy week, what with the "hate the gays" amendment failing, the "let your daughter be a slut" vaccine getting approved (do I need to use that :sarcasm: thing??) so they needed a win. About the only thing that gets Monkey's numbers up is the "war on terra" so it was a good fit for them. They just needed to be SURE that it would be covered all day, and not drop off the radar with an afternoon report. Had they released the info as it occurred, it would have been discussed that evening, there would have been analysis on Thursday, and that would be that. By busting out with the news in early a.m. on Thursday, they owned the day, and analysis is taking place today even as we speak.

Absent a big boom somewhere that snatches our attention away, they now own the Sunday talk shows.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:55 PM
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4. DoublePlusGood.
The end of the war with Oceania is at hand.
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Uncle Zoloft Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:18 AM
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8. um-mm
Yep.
Failed FMA.
Next day Zarqawi. Same day Spector & Cheney cat fight over NSA hearings; which are now not going to happen.
November 5, 2006: Osma caught alive!
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homaffectional Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:34 AM
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10. I'll see your gay marriage ban defeat...
and raise you a Haditha. If this was staged, I think it has to do more with that than anything else. I don't see much connection between this and marriage, unless gay marriage was supposed to the distraction to take your attention off of Haditha, something totally non-Iraq, and then when the focus went back on Iraq, the 'victory' there would totally overshadow last week's news - Haditha.

It all fits now.
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