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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:17 PM
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Rachel: Gay anchors should come out
FWIW I completely agree with her.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/04/msn...

"MSNBCs Rachel Maddow is all about keeping them honest, telling the Guardian that closeted gay anchors should come out. But, hey, that doesnt mean she's referring to a certain CNN anchor.

In the interview with the publication, which was published Monday, the openly gay anchor is asked if she feels frustration toward an equally well-known news presenter who is widely assumed to be gay but has never come out?

Im sure other people in the business have considered reasons why theyre doing what theyre doing," she answers, "but I do think that if youre gay you have a responsibility to come out.

The interview drew much attention, with blogs suggesting she was referring to Cooper, who has never acknowledged -- or denied -- that he is gay. Maddow responded to the noise in a self-penned blog post Monday evening, stressing that she wasnt singling anyone out."
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GomezLives Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:25 PM
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1. Or Shepard Smith
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:44 PM
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2. I thought Shep was out.
Could swear I saw an article on this very subject with a pic of him and the husband... a real cutie, too.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:52 PM
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3. While I would agree they should come out, I don't think they have a responsiblity to.
Why? Would a news anchor have a responsibility to disclose their marital status? Their religion? Their food likes/dislikes? Their middle names?

They are their to provide news. I don't care if Anderson is gay and I certainly don't care if he ever says one or the other. The only exception to this is hypocrites, but those are usually our elected officials not our newspeople.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:53 AM
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4. I believe all gay adults have a moral obligation to make life better for gay youth
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 12:53 AM by FreeState
That's hard to do unless your proud enough of yourself and the peole you love to live your life in the light of day.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:10 AM
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5. Your post is logical, but I don't blame people for hiding when they are surrounded by madness.
Not everyone has the strength, or support, to fight the world.

I guess I am saying they probably should come out, but I don't blame them for not coming out.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:23 AM
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6. I don't blame some of them either
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 01:23 AM by FreeState
In an ideal world all could come out with no fear or reprisals - however that reality won't happen until people come out and and by coming out make it easy for others to come out. I owe a lot to those that came before me for my coming out experiences, yes it was hard but it would have been a lot harder if it had not been for the sacrifices of many women and men before me.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:54 PM
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19. I'm deliberately obviously radically LGBT.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 02:54 PM by Zorra
People that have no problem with GLBT often smile at me, like they are saying, "I want you to know that I don't care if you are gay, I consider you just like me". I look right back into their eyes, nod, and smile--"Thanks for getting it"

I always admired Jim Morrison, because he was so deliberately outrageous in order to break down social conventions. He was like totally unafraid.

I'm trying to be fearless like that.

I believe I can help others to never need to be afraid to be who they are.

If everyone that was LGBT came out, straight might no longer be so "normal".
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:23 PM
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21. 'If everyone that was LGBT came out, straight might no longer be so "normal"'.
Which would lead to Cthulhu.


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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:49 AM
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22. You say that like it would be a BAD thing...
:hide:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:39 AM
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8. they do have a moral obligation to come out, to make it safe for other queer kids
its disingenuous for us to evoke the civil rights struggle as a comparison to gay rights struggle, if we don't come out. After all, if this was race, they could not have hidden it.


if wealth, well known figures refuse to come out, it makes a much bigger struggle for the rest of us.


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auntsue Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:35 AM
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7. When I was a teacher/social worker i could not be "out" -
I'm retired now and have bumper stickers of rainbows and one that says "Being myself is not a choice." I stay alert though and today some kids in another car just stared - I don't know if that was why.
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Spinny Liberal Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 11:36 AM
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9. I am crushin' hard on Rachel, but
People come out when they're ready. And when they feel "safe and secure" enough to do so. I'm pretty sure that Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager, wouldn't have been well-received if he came out back then.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:53 PM
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10. he had a bigger moral obligation on not make it harder for lgbt to begin with
but to her point, she did mention anchors specifically and not that everyone no matter what their job should come out
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Spinny Liberal Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:07 PM
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11. I suppose he could have
objected to the DOMA. And yes, Rachel did mention anchors, so my crush gets a pass on this one. ;-)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:12 PM
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12. not just to doma. ken could have objected to the general republican
strategy of 2004, which was to rile up the country against gays as they put gay marriage on the polls. the man is disgusting and his new found love for us, doesnt excuse him for his past.
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Spinny Liberal Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:28 PM
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13. True
So what do you think of him wanting to be an advocate of gay marriage now?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:29 PM
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14. convenient. gay marriage is only one thing on a whole list of issues
lgbt face. someone like him, probably only sees the need for marriage.
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Spinny Liberal Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:40 PM
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15. It is the cause du jour
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:43 PM
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16. no its not. its one of the many things lgbt people are fighting for
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Spinny Liberal Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:47 PM
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17. It's the one that gets the most press
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:54 PM
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18. these days dadt does. couple of years ago, enda was
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Spinny Liberal Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:23 PM
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20. DADT and DOMA share the spotlight right now
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:00 AM
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23. If you are in a position to come out safely and don't then you are setting a bad
example for gay youth, IMO. Rachel is right in the respect that gay anchors, particularly national anchors, should come out. Doing so doesn't endanger them, it's obvious it doesn't hurt their careers, look at Rachel and that woman on CNN (the one with three names and recovering alcoholic). Neither of their careers have been compromised. Rosie and Ellen, though not news anchors, are/were highly popular despite their gayness.

I think there are certain careers where one cannot "safely" come out and that should indeed be considered but not in this situation.
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