Consensus: "forum where GLBT DUers and African-American DUers can have a dialogue"

[Behind the Aegis]

From the I think it's time to talk about some ideas... thread, Skinner asked us to come to a consensus about three items. I read the thread many times, and I am not sure I could even gather a consensus. Therefore, I thought, well, put it in a more direct form. I am creating three threads for each of the three points. What will be different about this thread is this one will be divided into a "pro" and "con" sub-thread. After, let's say a week, then I suggest we put it to a vote in a poll, with the "pro/con" thread as a reference point. Confused?

This thread will have two posts by me as #1 and #2 (hopefully) which will say "pro" and "con". Under those subthreads, people will present arguments for or against the particular topic. I feel it might be easier to create a bullet list if people wrote their post and ended it with a bullet point summary.

Example:

I am for deleting posts in this forum because it will just add to the animosity. I have seen too many examples of hateful remarks (examples). It really just makes this place a sad place to read and the topic is lost and becomes a flamefest.

• contributes to animosity
  
• flamefests

After people have had their say, then I suggest creating a poll to vote on the topic, with the list of pros and cons. Once this is done, then we can present something to Skinner.

Let's see how it goes....

3. Should Democratic Underground set up a separate forum where GLBT DUers and African-American DUers can have a dialogue?

See also: Consensus: "deleting posts in the GLBT forum"
See also: Consensus: "create a new "forum liaison" position for the GLBT forum "

[Behind the Aegis]

1. Pro: "forum where GLBT DUers and African-American DUers can have a dialogue"

[Behind the Aegis]

2. Con: "forum where GLBT DUers and African-American DUers can have a dialogue"

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. Con: This can take place here or anywhere really.

The crisis that generated this idea seems to have passed.

"No". For now anyway.

[Cronus Protagonist]

3. I had no idea they were mutually exclusive

I have to call my friend Maurice and tell him all about it...

[TheWraith]

6. Precisely the biggest con of them all.

The idea that "black" and "gay" are mutually exclusive is a self reinforcing cycle.

Yes, it's true that black folks tend to be slightly less gay-rights-friendly than the national average... however, only by a small percentage. And that's a trait common in many ethnic communities, where often people tend to be slightly more religious and morally conservative than people outside that community.

[Lyric]

4. We can't decide on this by ourselves.

We can all vote "Yes", but that's a meaningless gesture unless there's someone out there willing to talk WITH us. Such a forum wouldn't do much good for anyone if we were the only ones posting there.

I think we should wait and see if there's interest from all involved parties before we try and decide this.