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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:41 PM
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Am I right in thinking that forcing Brad Manning to strip
and sit naked in his cell and stand for review naked while they count him
carries an extra helping of intimidation because he is gay in a largely hostile
environment or, is that wrong?

This is what I'm talking about. My alarms are going off but not sure which ones.

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03 March 2011
PFC Manning Forced to Strip Naked
Last night, PFC Manning was inexplicably stripped of all clothing by the Quantico Brig. He remained in his cell, naked, for the next seven hours. At 5:00 a.m., the Brig sounded the wake-up call for the detainees. At this point, PFC Manning was forced to stand naked at the front of his cell.

The Duty Brig Supervisor (DBS) arrived shortly after 5:00 a.m. When he arrived, PFC Manning was called to attention. The DBS walked through the facility to conduct his detainee count. Afterwards, PFC Manning was told to sit on his bed. About ten minutes later, a guard came to his cell to return his clothing.

This type of degrading treatment is inexcusable and without justification. It is an embarrassment to our military justice system and should not be tolerated. PFC Manning has been told that the same thing will happen to him again tonight. No other detainee at the Brig is forced to endure this type of isolation and humiliation.

http://www.armycourtmartialdefense.info/2011/03/confine...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:51 PM
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1. That was my immediate thought. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:53 PM
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2. Thanks. Can we please ring some bells here?
I'm emailing and tweeting everyone I can think of.

This is just so profoundly sadistic and wrong as well as illegal.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:54 PM
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3. I simply see it as wrong... period... for anyone.
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 06:54 PM by hlthe2b
:shrug:

I hope the CIC looses his command over this crap.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:00 PM
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4. It is wrong for anyone but it's more wrong
for a minority whose very existence has been met with every negative response from denial to brutal violence by our military.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:19 PM
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5. I wonder where the chain of command begins.
It seems odd that in this administration this stuff is happening. I'd like to know who is at the head of the line of command.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:21 PM
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6. you mean like some kind of "Chief Commander"?
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 02:13 PM
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15. Heh
nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:24 PM
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7. A couple of weeks ago, the officer in charge of his detention was relieved.
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 07:25 PM by EFerrari
But that hasn't changed anything, it looks like it was for cosmetics only.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:53 PM
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8. First thing I thought. n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 10:56 PM
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9. I've often thought that assholes have been enjoying the mental & physical torture they get to put on
him...

God bless his soul. I am fully disgusted that this is going on while President Obama is the CIC.

:(

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dickthegrouch Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:20 PM
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10. Inexcusable and prosecutable /nt
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:54 AM
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11. The Manning prosecution is EVIL itself.
Mindless "patriotism"+injustice+murder+ murderers exposed+blind rage unleashed . Add to the mix *truckloads* of homophobia. I posted on it a few months back:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:20 PM
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12. They did it again last night. Here's the lawyer's update
PFC Manning Stripped Naked Again

PFC Manning was forced to strip naked in his cell again last night. As with the previous evening, Quantico Brig guards required him to surrender all of his clothing. PFC Manning then walked back to his bed, and spent the next seven hours in humiliation.

The decision to require him to be stripped of all clothing was made by the Brig commander, Chief Warrant Officer-2 Denise Barnes. According to First Lieutenant Brian Villard, a Marine spokesman, the decision was "not punitive" and done in accordance with Brig rules. There can be no conceivable justification for requiring a soldier to surrender all his clothing, remain naked in his cell for seven hours, and then stand at attention the subsequent morning. This treatment is even more degrading considering that PFC Manning is being monitored -- both by direct observation and by video -- at all times. The defense was informed by Brig officials that the decision to strip PFC Manning of all his clothing was made without consulting any of the Brig's mental health providers.

On Wednesday, the government filed its response to the defense's Article 138 complaint concerning PFC Manning's confinement conditions. The preliminary decision made by the government was to deny PFC Manning's request to be removed from Maximum custody and from Prevention of Injury (POI) watch. The defense now has ten days to file a rebuttal to this determination. After submitting the rebuttal, the matter will go back to the Quantico Base Commander, Colonel Daniel J. Choike, for his review. Once complete, he will forward the report to the Secretary of the Navy for final review.

Posted by Army Court-Martial Defense Specialist at 12:11 PM

http://bit.ly/efygdR
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:36 PM
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14. This is wrong. We're moving back toward a less civilized time.
I recall the mentally disturbed being chained in dungeons below the city. Forever. In the darkness. It appears we returning to our ignorance, instead of growing and learning and getting better.

I'm pissed off at the human race.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:24 PM
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13. Greenwald brings up a very good point this morning.
Pentagon spokesliar Geoff Morrel LIED about forced nudity in Abu Graib, too:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/...
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