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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:21 PM
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Do the Obamas have any gay friends?
Like, personal friends. People they had dinner with and were social with before he ran for President. Not people Obama appointed or hired for the campaign.

This came up in another thread and I realized I had never seen or heard of anyone gay that Obama or his wife have a longstanding personal relationship with. Clinton was close with Mixner, Geffen etc. Does Obama have anyone like that?

This is a sincere question. I just realized I couldn't think of anyone who fits that description.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:35 PM
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1. It's hard to know for sure, unless someone
is acquainted with the Obamas personally. I suspect that they do have gay friends and staff who are gay, but they just aren't as high-profile as Mixner or Geffen.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:36 PM
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2. I fail to see why it matters. I mean that sincerely. How many times have we heard, "a lot of my
friends are ............" It has become a joke. Who your friends are doesn't define your bigotry or lack of it.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:11 PM
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8. For people like them, they've moved in professional circles where MANY colleagues would be gay
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 04:12 PM by closeupready
or lesbian. And so, if it turned out that, today, they have no openly gay or lesbian friends, then it would be suspicious, at least to me, that they had straight friends from those same circles.

But then who am I to judge, I have very, very few heterosexual friends.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:26 PM
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9. In general the Obamas have been quite private about their friendships.
Which is probably how their friends prefer it. I see nothing to be gained by trying to find out who their friends are. Chances are you may find some and not others so just what have you learned? Plus it seems very jr highish to me.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:30 PM
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11. Obviously, there isn't a 'correct' view on this, but
I just think knowing about someone's friends and acquaintances tells you certain things about that person, as well. In the same way that background checks are de rigeur for security clearances. If, for example, you knew a white person had no friends of color, you'd maybe suspect that this person was racist on some level - unless, upon further inquiry, you found out that this person lives in Montana or Idaho, which are statistically very white.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:34 PM
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12. I think its a fricken waste of time and energy, And as I said - too much like Jr. High School.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:57 PM
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3. I saw a post somewhere where they didn't...they both don't seem
comfortable around gay people...
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:37 PM
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5. that is apparent
it's like Ungaydar
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:28 PM
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10. Uh huh. Well that is convincing EVIDENCE. Not so much.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:06 PM
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4. Why should any of us care?
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 03:06 PM by Dawgs
:shrug:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:17 PM
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13. It might explain President Obama's behavior towards us.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 09:10 PM
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16. The reason we should care is that both anecdotally AND statistically
(meaning validated by opinion research) people's homophobic attitudes are dramatically lessened when they have a close friendship with a gay person or when a family member is gay.

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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:42 PM
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6. They like Brenda Sykes....
anyway they lived in Chicago, so I'm guessing yeah they have gay friends..
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:09 PM
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7. Openly and proudly gay? No.
I don't think so.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:30 PM
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14. It is a great question
and for the record, it matters in the same way it matters if I have any black friends or hispanic friends. The fact is having gay friends would tend to lead to understanding what it might be like to be gay. To take one for instance. The whole Constance prom thing came up in our lounge and I was able to offer some insight into why she would make such a big deal of being able to go to prom with the person of her choosing. Something a straight person may not have been able to get without my insight.
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:22 PM
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15. "W"
Before he got "s"elected they talked about all his gay friends. As they say, With friends like that...
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 11:03 PM
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17. 338 views. So far, zero gay friends identified.
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 11:03 PM by Smarmie Doofus
That says something. I'm not sure *what*. But something.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:10 AM
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18. If they did, they don't any more.
Words cannot express my disappointment in him on gay issues.

Action talks. Bullshit walks.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:49 AM
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19. Do you?
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