Hey guys stop being so impatient! You don't know what he's going through!

[Clintonista2]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[patrice]

1. ridicule of others isn't very persuasive even to those who would have otherwise been inclined to

agree with your position.

[Clintonista2]

2. I'm done trying to "persuade"

thanks anyways.

[patrice]

4. I don't think anyone should TRY to persuade, but ignoring political realities can give you and yours

un-necessary trouble. Maybe that trouble will matter maybe it won't, but I'm just conservative enough to prefer to save my resources for the troubles I can't avoid. Maybe that doesn't matter to you; so be it.

[patrice]

5. How much would it have affected your basic position to have avoided ridicule anyway? Not much. nt

[RandomThoughts]

8. Sounds like you have lost patients.

Have a little, like you advised others to.

[Clintonista2]

11. Who did I advise to have patience?

[FLAprogressive]

3. He's playing a giant 3D chess game AND taking his daughters out for frozen custard!

[katandmoon]

6. AND swatting flies!

[FLAprogressive]

10. And working to repeal DOMA.....or not.

[RandomThoughts]

9. 3D chess is so 24th century, catch up to today. :) n/t

[patrice]

7. P.S. Some of us do wish to avoid Self Fulfilling Prophecies no matter what their source. nt

[MineralMan]

12. Yes, yes...

Politics has not changed. It remains the art of the possible.

[patrice]

13. Amen, MineralMan! And let us PLEASE expand that realm of "the possible" without

resorting to Daddy-God and other forms of Magical Thinking to save our Asses!

[MineralMan]

14. That trick never works, anyhow...

[patrice]

15. Pretty much my experience. We might just as well simply suck our thumbs and humm to ourselves.

That doesn't mean that I don't believe in stuff that is greater than we are; just that we MUST stop being so silly about our relationships to It.

Unfortunately, I looks as though we live in a culture of thumb-suckers.

P.S. I know some around here are going to have some fun with my metaphor, but I don't mind.

[MineralMan]

16. Thumbsucking has much to recommend it.

Ask any three-year-old. No Prozac needed if you have your thumbs.

[patrice]

17. Lucky You! I wish I had a three-year-old now!

I have some self re-definition to do first and my daughter is finally getting ready to buy a house and that means my first grandkid isn't far behind that when it is an accomplished fact.

Happy Fathers' Day, Mineral Man!

To you and your Daughter!

[Broken_Hero]

18. Locking

Do not call out other members of DU.

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