OK, I'm sick of it.

[swimmernsecretsea]

Reading the posts that my fellow gay men have posted on their Facebook pages about Chastity Bono transitioning to male.

Those of you who say they wouldn't fuck him, how fat he is, how ugly, comparing his looks to one or another person, expressing the belief that this is a publicity stunt, doubting his sanity, asking out loud what Cher thinks of her daughter becoming a man, wondering if Cher hates gays and transexuals now...

...CAN SUCK IT.

FUCK YOU ALL WHO ACT LIKE THAT. FUCK YOU.

I hate to be confronted by immaturity and prejudice in my own community, and I know that its there, but I hate once again to be reminded that it is there. Those transpeople whom I know who have had to live lives of such bravery and sacrifice would be an example to you. You all ought to be embarrassed at your behavior. This is pride month, of all things! I have had to shut up those assholes who continue to say things like Mann Coulter, etc. Go to hell.

One more thing...I don't care to hear a single excuse. I wish for your sake that when you are confronted by a group who wants to bash you outside of that bar that a transexual with a cell phone calls 911.

[Taverner]

1. Being gay is no guarantee of maturity

It just means the individual like the same sex

[LostinVA]

2. Bravo!

[jody]

I hope a tran-sexual with a CCW and a 9mm pistol does the right thing.

CCW, permit to legally carry a concealed weapon.

[Reform]

5. im sorry what was that?

Please explain this comment would you

[jody]

6. OP said "transexual with a cell phone calls 911" for help but I suggested a tran-sexual with a CCW

was an alternative.

When attacked by a criminal and seconds count, police are only minutes away.

You might find a PINK PISTOLS CHAPTER near you.

[swimmernsecretsea]

7. That is legal, and your remark understandable, but

The point was that I hope one day if they are in need they'll have someone who will know the feeling of persecution and do the right thing.

NOT CARRY A PIECE AND ACT LIKE DIRTY HARRY.

[jody]

8. I understand. CCW is a personal choice where legal but I would like members of the GLBT community to

know that it is not immoral to keep and bear arms for self-defense because SCOTUS says government is not obligated to protect an individual unless she/he is in custody.

Self-defense is a personal responsibility and whether one exercises her/his right to bear arms for self-defense is a personal decision but don't depend on police or government.

Forget about Dirty Harry, if you don't want to defend yourself then don't complain if no one else comes to your aid.

On the other hand, you might get lucky and find a CCW person near you and my bet is that she/he would come to your defense.

You were the one who introduced the hypothetical "you are confronted by a group who wants to bash you outside of that bar".

I'm on your side!

:hi:

[swimmernsecretsea]

9. Bring it back to the point.

[jody]

10. I already have, to the last point you made in the OP. Have a great day. n/t

[paulsby]

28. responding to an immediate threat to save somebody's life

is not "acting like dirty harry"

it's called being a responsible citizen and helping somebody in need.

im an LEO. i support CCW and responsible use of firearms for defense of self or others

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[jody]

36. Do you have a problem? n/t

[LostinVA]

3. Bravo!

[dbonds]

4. Thumbs - up!

[foxfeet]

11. It needed to be said.

:applause:

[Bluebear]

12. Pride means leaving nobody in our community behind.

With thanks to maddiejoan, who taught me so much.

[ronnykmarshall]

30. She taught me a lot too.

I miss her.

[Sub Atomic]

13. Why are you bringing your FaceBook drama here?

If you want to tell off the queens on FaceBook do it there.

This isn't the place to rant at posters of another website.

:eyes:

[LostinVA]

15. I think the OP is valid, as he replies show

[WillParkinson]

16. Because we're supposed to be a community...

If the OP needs to vent, and inform at the same time, then that's what needs to be done.

[Sub Atomic]

17. Venting is fine, but the shit that's bothering him isn't going to stop.

The people he's pissed about aren't going to know his angst.

It just seems like an exercise in futility.

[LostinVA]

19. He vents, we give our perspective and/or advice, and maybe he can change things

I honestly don't see anything at all wrong with the OP.

[WillParkinson]

22. Agreed!

And I echo your sentiment.

[KitchenWitch]

20. Oh FFS! Can you allow for someone to get some support?

Without flinging poo all over the thread.

Don't like the thread? Don't post in it.

[Sub Atomic]

21. The EXACT same advice can go to the OP

If he doesn't like reading what he's reading on FaceBook THEN STOP GOING THERE AND READING THE SHIT!!

God, the stupidity of people sometimes is just amazing....

[WillParkinson]

23. As is the rudeness of some people...

As you yourself just said, if you don't like what you're reading, then just stop reading. Simple solution. Follow your own advice.

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[WillParkinson]

26. Hm.

The poster made a thread talking about the bitchiness of some people on Facebook. Perhaps the OP was looking for some constructive thoughts from people here. Jumping down their throats certainly seems to be one way to handle it.

And no one ever said life was fair. We play the hands we're dealt, but if you can't talk with people who might understand, then what do you have left?

No idea what got in your craw tonight, but if you don't like the thread then simply hide it. As you notice, others here are showing support. Maybe learning a few things. If you'd rather not, that's cool. But don't denigrate others for doing so.

[Sub Atomic]

27. My initial question was why the OP was bringing FaceBook drama here.

Like this place doesn't have enough drama already.

If every poster on here were to bring drama from every other board they posted on then this place would become literal chaos.

If you don't like what they're saying on FaceBook then either remove them from your friends list or stop going there. It's as easy as that. No additional bitching, whining or complaining on any number of boards is going to change that. Get it?

Over the years there have been plenty of boards where I participated where I didn't care for the shit that was posted there. I stopped going. I didn't post on other boards about how mean or condescending those other posters were. They're anonymous faceless letters on a computer screen that could be your next-door-neighbor or they could be somebody from 1/2-way around the world that you'll never meet or interact with or have any contact with other than reading what they say on some stupid freaking internet board.

Keep your gay.com drama on gay.com. Keep your adam4adam drama on adam4adam. Keep your facebook drama on facebook.

Get it? Or do you really want to turn this board into a free-for-all where it's open to everyone's drama on every other board?

[ThomCat]

32. One of the things I like about people here

is that I can talk to people here and get moral support and good advice for how to deal with stressful situations and stressful people elsewhere.

We all see homophobia, and deal with homophobia elsewhere. It costs us nothing to lend some kind words to help each other face that homophobia where ever we find it. That's part of what makes us a community, even if it is a virtual one. :)

[Canuckistanian]

14. Jesus

As if gay and transgendered people didn't have enough to worry about.

Now they're being attacked from within?

That sucks.

[ronnykmarshall]

18. I hear you.

This shit pisses me off.

[mitchtv]

24. K&R`

thanks swimmer, I agree

[Bluenorthwest]

29. It is common enough, that prejudice

But no one gets by with that crap around me. Just saying. The trans community has been with me since the first second I left the closet. Literally.
Many of our less informed brothers and yes, sisters, do not understand the place of honor that should be held forever by the transexual community, for being courageous from the first second of the GLBT Rights Movement, for being leaders of our community from day one. No group takes more crap from our own, not to mention from the wider world. And no group handles that crap with more humor and grace than the Transexual branch of our family tree.
That's what I think.

[ThomCat]

31. It is always horrible when we find prejudices within our own community.

I always hope that we all have enough empathy to reach out and wish for the full expression of happiness and equal rights for everyone, but unfortunately that often doesn't work out.

We have a lot of people in our community with racism, sexism or any other prejudice. It's no surprise that there is virulent trans-phobia in here too. :(

I hope their friends in the community tell them off about it, and don't let it go unchallenged.

[OneBlueSky]

34. in my sixth decade on the planet, there are a few things I've learned . . .

and one of them is that there are just as many gay assholes (proportionately) as there are straight assholes in the world . . . neither has a monopoly on ignorance, stupidity, or meanness . . .

in both cases, however, those folks are in a distinct minority . . . the reason it may seem otherwise at times is that they're also the loudest and most obnoxious, so they tend to stand out . . . but the vast majority of folks, gay or straight, are kind, good-hearted, and welcoming to all . . . at least that's what I've experienced . . .

illegitimi non carborundum! . . .

("don't let the bastards grind you down!") . . .

[TheWraith]

35. "Some gay men can be catty: film at 11."

I know how you feel, but really, one has to eventually accept that stupid people show up everywhere, and are not limited by demographic. At least that's what I tell myself, since I'm not allowed to go out and start clubbing anyone who says something asinine.