Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Gay Activists Boycott Backers of Prop 8

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » GLBT Donate to DU
 
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:10 PM
Original message
Gay Activists Boycott Backers of Prop 8
Soon after California's passage of a initiative banning same-sex marriage last month, dozens of gay activists descended on the El Coyote restaurant with signs and placards. They chanted "Shame on you," cussed at patrons and began a boycott of the cafe.

The restaurants's crime: A daughter of the owner donated $100 to support Proposition 8, the antigay-marriage initiative approved by voters. Gay activists have refused to lift the boycott -- which restaurant managers say has slashed revenues by 30% -- even after some El Coyote employees raised $500 to help repeal the new ban.

The boycotters have demanded that the owner's daughter, El Coyote manager Marjorie Christoffersen, pony up $100 to help repeal Prop 8. She tearfully declined, citing her Mormon faith, during a raucous meeting with activists. "You are not my friend if you take my civil rights," one activist shouted before she fled the room.

In the first days after California voters reinstated the ban on Nov. 4, activists vented much of their anger in protests at Mormon and other churches that had advocated Prop 8. But they soon shifted to a new tack: compiling Internet blacklists of businesses like El Coyote, where top officials or one or more employees were found from public disclosures to have donated to the "Yes on 8" campaign.

The idea is to use gay-spending power to punish businesses the activists say discriminate against gays' right to get married. Among the dozens of businesses now being targeted for boycotts are hotels, fast-food chains and dental offices.

So far, the boycott campaign has claimed at least two high-profile casualties: Scott Eckern, artistic director of the California Musical Theatre in Sacramento, and Richard Raddon, president of the Los Angeles Film Festival. Both men resigned after their private donations to Yes on 8 were revealed and activists threatened boycotts unless they quit.

Mr. Eckern and Mr. Raddon were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose members accounted for much of the $40 million in contributions raised by the Yes on 8 campaign. "The main finger we are pointing is at the Mormon Church," says Vic Gerami, a leading gay activist in West Hollywood, Calif.

Some gay-rights advocates say they don't agree with the boycotts. "We need to get it together. I mean, gang, we lost," Dana Miller, a gay television producer from Los Angeles, wrote in a Nov. 24 column in the gay magazine, In Los Angeles.

Leaders of the gay-marriage movement say they don't endorse hurting people's livelihoods, but understand why some people would. "I am not going to support a business that will not support my rights," says San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who gained national attention for allowing same-sex marriages in his city in 2004.

Some legal experts say the boycotts raise issues about the civil liberties of people who are targeted. In most cases, individuals can boycott anyone they want for almost any reason so long as they aren't representing a government institution, says Vikram Amar, associate dean of the University of California at Davis School of Law. But if the boycotts include defamatory comments that are untrue, Mr. Amar said, the target of the boycott could have grounds for a lawsuit.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123033766467736451.html


From the perspective of the WSJ, taken with salt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:16 PM
Response to Original message
1. Dana Miller, what the fuck is your problem?
Some gay-rights advocates say they don't agree with the boycotts. "We need to get it together. I mean, gang, we lost," Dana Miller, a gay television producer from Los Angeles, wrote in a Nov. 24 column in the gay magazine, In Los Angeles.


You're right, Dana. We lost.

We may as well all collectively go back into the closet and let the homophobes have their way.


:rolleyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:48 PM
Response to Original message
2. Fuck that bullshit
when you make a political donation it is a matter of public record and you open yourself up for anything that results from that donation. If you don't want the heat, stay out of the political kitchen...I hope these narrow minded bigoted bastards lose their livelihoods and then go kill themselves...the world would be a better place with out all these mother fucking bigots!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Do not wish death on anyone, life isn't a video game.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I'm hoping that in the future, measures such as Prop 8
will have a harder time obtaining donations from people if they realize that they can't hide in the shadows anymore and that their contribution will have definite blowback.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. As we know if the Mormons had not interfered, it would have been defeated
And something needs to be done about having organized religious zealots involved in the political process such as this. Hopefully, the Obama administration sees the light and addresses this in the near future, but right now, the zealots won a battle. The war is not yet over.


Maybe something can be done to interfere with them in Utah? Fair is fair.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. I'm with you
how about a boycott of the state of Utah
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Won't work, has to be intricate and get to them on their level.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. I would really hate to donate $100 to a pro-choice measure
and show up for work one day finding that I am personally targetted by demonstrators waving pictures of aborted fetuses. Among other things, I would probably end up unemployable.

The personal targetting of individuals making donations will have a very chilling effect on the political process.

I found it very chilling when the Bush administration did the following:


Time Magazine is reporting that the Bush Administration is removing U.S. delegates from the Inter-American Telephone Commission because they gave money to John Kerry in last year's election. A Bush spokesman admits it's true: 'We wanted people who would represent the Administration positively, and--call us nutty--it seemed like those who wanted to kick this Administration out of town last November would have some difficulty doing that,' says White House spokesman Trent Duffy. Employees of Qualcomm and Nokia are among those who have been removed from the commission."


http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?no_d2=1&sid=05/04/25/2116250

This is a technical committee settign engineering standards. The individuals bounced gave small amounts to Kerry and the Democratic Party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. that's the price of politics
to the winner go the spoils...now is the time for payback!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. If I were greeted with pickets for that reason
I would take a bow,(more than one) I'd probably be late for work.I'd also take a letter opener home
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. What is right is usually not the same as what is easy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. I'm ecstatic that El Coyote is being boycotted for Margie's donation.
Perhaps in the future people will think about donating money to a hateful cause, knowing that they will be unable to do so anonymously.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. That's a good point, however this is a battle for Civil Rights, not jobs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
9. These were people that DONATED to Prop 8
if they want to enter the political arena, then they should be prepared to deal with the consequences, both good and bad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:00 PM
Response to Original message
12. Well, it's my money, and I choose not to support discrimination.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 07:01 PM by Deep13
Does anyone have a list? We had a similar measure in Ohio in 2004. I would be curious to know who supported it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » GLBT Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC