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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:12 PM
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Ok , Salvia is doing nothing to me
what the secret? I tried it a couple of times , and I barely feel anything
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:14 PM
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1. is it strong enough?
the high value concentration stuff when smoked will light you up.

Not my scene however, but I have heard stories of an intense trip.
I prefer my reality to be real
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:16 PM
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3. I tried the 10x extract
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:18 PM
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6. 10x for real.......
would take you to neptune..............
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:20 PM
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8. It is of the "purple sticky Salvia" trademark
I did nothing to me
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:22 PM
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11. does mj get you high?
maybe you have some kind of "receptor issue"

It's overblown from what I hear *cracks open a beer
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:28 PM
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15. Mary Jane gets me high , but I have to wait 30 minutes after
I take a couple of hits , after 30 minutes it suddenly hits me like a train
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:32 PM
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16. I think the problem might be with you
a friend of mine tells stories of getting knocked on their ass immediately after the first hit of good stuff.

Smoke more, maybe the problem will correct itself.

Kidding, enjoy
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:15 PM
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2. Could be the salvia, could be you
Drugs and herbs (and foods, for that matter) all react differently in different people.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:16 PM
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4. you need to get the extract....
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:18 PM
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5. I did , I got the 10x extract
maybe I should try the 20x , or even more
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:20 PM
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7. try another supplier
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:20 PM
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9. get the extract, preferably 10x
use a bong for best results.

hold the flame to it throughout. you need lots of smoke to get the full effect. that is why pipes don't work as well.

you should start to feel it by the time you set down the bong.
like a psychedelic practical joke...
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:21 PM
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10. I was using a tobacco pipe
and the smoke was VERY harsh.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:25 PM
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14. really .......one hit of
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 08:30 PM by Pharaoh
high octane salvia extract and you will lose all sense of your present reality. It is not necessarily a pleasant experience........

the only positive thing is it only lasts afew minutes,.............but you need to be careful, have a friend there.....
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:50 PM
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18. that is why you aren't feeling it
you just can't get a big enough direct hit through a pipe.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:25 PM
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13. lol, best description I've seen.
psychedelic practical joke
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:23 PM
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12. Made my face turned beet red and suddenly it felt really hot.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 08:24 PM by Skip Intro

No "high" or spiritual experience, like I've read is supposed to happen.

Btw, I ordered something called Hawiian Baby Woodrose Seeds when I got the salvia. Those things...let me tell ya. There is a trip to be had on those things, BUT, the shells, which I ate along with the seeds, made me sick, really sick. I was sitting in the shower with the water beating down on me, almost crying, just praying that I would vomit. My stomach hurt sooo much. And finally, it came. My roommate was in the kitchen, two rooms away from my bathroom, and said he heard it hit the shower floor. Don't mean to go on, but it was forceful, and very relieving. I finally washed off and got back into the living room, turned off all the lights, blackened the tv display after setting the channel to some new age stuff, and laid on the couch, feeling pretty good. I saw shadows on the wall begin to move. I felt the presence of my recently deceased mother. I felt a wave of euphoria and giggled for some time. Finally fell asleep, and the next morning woke very hungry, despite a little residual stomach turbulence. Overall, felt pretty good, and had kind of an afterglow of the "trip" the night before.

I wonder now and then about morning glory seeds - they are supposed to have a similar effect, but without the severe stomach issues.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:42 PM
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17. Never tried it
I have tried kava, which is supposed to produce a mellow euphoria. However not even 800mg of extract does anything for me. I also am not affected by pot.

People respond differently to drugs.
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:45 PM
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19. I've done it several times
Edited on Tue May-20-08 03:49 PM by Popol Vuh
Here's some of my experiences. On my first occasion it melted away physical reality right before my eyes and I saw fractals 'everywhere', along with the sensation of being strongly pulled to one side with a tumbling vortex feeling.

On another occasion without seeing fractals I experienced that strong pulling and tumbling vortex feeling again, but, it was quickly followed up with a short out-of-body experience.

On another occasion I experienced physical reality melt away again and found myself in what I would describe as a nonphysical dimension with again the strong pulling / tumbling vortex feeling. This time the tumbling feeling was accompanied by what I would describe as different realities churning and coming at me like waves. I felt that if I were to reach out to go into one of them that I would wake up in that reality, and this one would have been just a dream. I felt I had to grab at physical objects in this realty to wake up here. It was a little bit disconcerting but not too bad. Very interesting as I played it through my mind later.

Anyway, those are the three most prominent experiences I had, and now here's some suggestions to hopefully help you.

First, it is best (a must as far as I am concerned) to do this in a dark room (I also use black-out sleep goggles) and of course most importantly have someone to be a sitter for you waiting preferably in the next room and making no noise.

Second, use at least 20X Salvia, don't be afraid. I myself used anywhere from 20X to 40X.

Third, because of the properties of Salvia, its best to use a torch lighter than a regular one because of the higher heat.

Fourth, take a regular inhale and hold it for about 10 seconds. Then another one the same. Then another one the same. This should be done as quickly as possible and keep doing this until you begin to feel that strong pulling sensation I described or any other sensation that you're about to not be able to control your pipe (preferably a water pipe/bong), then take a big hit and hold it in as long as you can.

Of course at this point your sitter should be there right in front of you ready to catch your pipe and lighter so you don't drop them on the floor.

As soon as you get that last deep/long inhale you should lie back and your sitter leave to the next room until you're back. Approx 5 to a little less than 10 minutes. The effects should be completely gone in about 30 minutes.


Take care
Popol Vuh...
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3isamagicnumber Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:32 PM
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20. This is the absolutely best way:
First, as was said, be sure to use at least 10x, I used 20x and it was more than enough. i couldn't believe afterwrads that they actually sell 100x. Good lord.

Anyways, the key is to use a bong. Used shaved/crushed ice in it, too. A lot. And this is what the guy at the shop told me: use one of those torch lighters that looks like the end of a fighter jet, they burn hotter and the chemical in it apparently has a high burning point.

Do those things, take a huge hit, and trust me: have a straight "sitter" there with you. I didn't my first time, thinking I was a heavyweight, and after crawling through a nautilus of realities that kept encircling me, I woke up with a broken glass bong and a cut leg, and I have no idea how it happened. Sucks, I had just bought that bong. Anyways, have a sitter.
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