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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:06 PM
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Why are mushrooms illegal?
helped me through some of the worst times in my life. They are harmless. Make people peacful, and grow all over the fuckin place!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:08 PM
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1. Because the Thought Police rule the world n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:08 PM
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2. Because Big Pharma and the AMA hasn't figured out a way
to make a profit on them yet. Once they figure that out, they'll be legal.

TC
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:10 PM
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3. Actually, you'd think this administration would worship mushrooms.
Mushrooms are grown by keeping them in the dark and feeding them shit.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:11 PM
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4. hahaha
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:17 PM
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5. Well, in the strictest sense, in many places, mushrooms are NOT illegal . . .
just the psylocin and psylocybin in them is. :P
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:23 PM
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7. Well, aren't they still legal for certain religions?
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Ben Masel Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 12:48 AM
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18. No.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:57 PM
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19. "No" is a bit more clear than the law seems to be on it
The Supreme Court has in theory at least authorized use of illegal substances as long as they have a legitimate use in the religion. The case they examined in particular was hallucinogenic tea called hoasca. According to findlaw.com "The Court so ruled notwithstanding the fact that hoasca is a Schedule I substance with no medical or otherwise accepted use".

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20060227.html

That opens the door for others, some have tried to invent new religions which I don't think are valid or will fly in court, but where peyote, mushrooms, or whatever else has legitimate use which they do seem to have to some natives then they'd probably be ruled the same way. As far as I know the rest have yet to be ruled on, but the precedent is there and it was a unanimous decision which leaves us with a something quite a bit less than a clear "no" on others in the same context. Looks a lot closer to probably yes, if it's a valid and historical use.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:30 PM
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20. You're thinking of the peyote cactus. Legal for members of the...
Native American Church.

Some pot people have tried a similar approach for marijuana, no luck so far.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:19 PM
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6. Because you can grow them,
and no corporation can claim to own them. In order to be legal, a drug has to be a dedicated source of profit for the right people. That seems to be the only criteria.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:31 PM
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8. Its all about control and personal responsibility. n/t
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:32 PM
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9. They keep a friend of mine from wishing for death.
He gets some sort of rare migraine headache that completely levels him for days at a time. Some people call them "suicide headaches" and my friend is one of them. The pain is so bad he has considered suicide during some of the worst attacks and wished for death during most attacks. A very smart mutual friend had learned mushrooms have been shown to help the condition, sometimes completely curing it with a dose or two. He tried them once and did not have an attack for six months. He used to have them weekly.

Now, five years later, he finds if he eats enough for a mild trip once every three or four months, he can remain headache free.

So I think they are illegal because they expand consciousness, have great potential as medicinals, and aren't produced by a major corporation (pharmaceutical or otherwise).
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 02:43 PM
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10. Because they can be.
Anything that makes you feel good other than alcohol is a no no to our dumbass legal system. Shrooms and weed are two of the least harmful most enjoyable naturally occurring plants in the world, yet no we have to drink brewed, manipulated alcohol, or take man made designer drugs. Boo that. Also a big reason, is if shrooms and/or weed were legal less people would drink alcohol and drive drunk therefore less money for alcohol companies and local govts.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 03:13 PM
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11. why is it illegal to grow and use any plant any way you want.
i agree its the thought police.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 03:53 PM
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12. Well the 'shrooms are illegal
the spores are not and they are available for purchase-

http://www.thehawkseye.com/
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Obama4ever Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 07:50 PM
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22. Thanks for the link
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-06-07 04:45 PM
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13. Jaywalking is illegal too,
but I still do it from time to time.

I would not be surprised to see the Church at the very foundation of the criminalization of natural drugs like grass and fungi. These substances produce spiritual connections between the universe and individuals that make organized religions fear the "elimination of the middle man". The legal drugs, on the other hand, tend to dull the brain, and thus are assistants to organized religions, which play on peoples' insecurities and encourage dangerous herd mentalities. 2000 years of sustained combat in the name of one holy whatever or another just seems ludicrous, once one's eyes are fully opened.

Peet
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caucAZN Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 11:26 PM
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16. your right but flawed
i think that your theory that orgonized religion is behind the prohibition is correct but not for the resons you specified. religion, in particular christianity, has infused this country with a set of unquestionable morals that frowns on change. mushrooms among other things represent change and threat to these morals and without much thought the people who own this country want to demonize this threat to their consumers narrow view on the shopping mall that is America.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:36 PM
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14. Because, some people want to eat them...
they don't want marijuana legal because they don't want to see people happy.
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stressfulreality Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:44 PM
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15. because only alcohol and cigarettes are legal. don't ask questions. n/t
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 07:48 AM
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17. Actually in Michigan it's legal to grow, but not too sell..... =) n/t
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emperor124 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:31 AM
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21. No really?
I'm moving to Michigan next year. Sweet!
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