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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:16 AM
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Scriptapalooza - con or great opportunity? (or both?)
In the screenwriter check-in thread, someone mentioned the contest site Scriptapalooza.

In brief, every 6 months, they award three prizes in each of the categories of TV pilot, One hour Spec Script, Half Hour Spec script, and movie screenplay. Top three winners in each category also get looked at by various studios. All rights remain with original author. Next contest ends 15 October.

The only possible drawback is that the entry fee per script is $40 bucks. So, is this some sort of scam along the lines of "You can be a great artist! Send a sample of your work and a fee to the address below!" that you used to find in matchbooks, or really a way for someone with no contacts in the TV/movie business to catch a break?

I'm leaning toward "legit", myself... They probably can make enough revenue through advertising and what not, and seem to have some real success stories...
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:44 AM
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1. Sounds like a great place to have one's work...
... ripped off.

Look, if you want to protect your work, you have to file for copyright, period. That's now about $450. Hand over your work to someone along with your $40 and without a copyright and see what happens. Somewhere in the small print, you'll find that submission makes it their property, or that by agreeing to submission, you share copyright with the site's owners.

Anything that sounds too good to be true invariably isn't.

This is depression-era stuff.

Cheers.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:43 AM
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2. Copyright
I recently 'copyrighted' a book. It cost thirty dollars and two copies of my book.

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:01 AM
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4. The $30 is your filing fee to register...
... your copyright claim. You'll be billed for additional services to verify the claim.

Cheers.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:12 AM
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5. I will be billed?
Library of Congress is going to bill me? I do not understand. Of course there is plenty in this world that I do not understand.

My wife registered her book with the Copyright Office Library of Congress years ago. I think it was twenty-five dollars then.

Perhaps you are speaking of a different program? A different kind of copyright?

She will be really angry if they ever charge her more and so will I.

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:07 AM
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6. Filing for registration...
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 09:27 AM by punpirate
... of a claim is not the same thing as receiving a copyright. For example, you might submit a manuscript to the LOC which is in the public domain. Before you can receive the copyright, that claim has to be researched for its originality. If you had submitted, say, the text of Pride and Prejudice under another title and your name, you would not be entitled to the exclusivity of a copyright; the LOC would have to research the authenticity and originality of your text before issuing a legally-binding copyright to you.

Registration of claim is a protection against other claims while that research is being done, if research is required. If the process isn't completed within five years, you don't have as much standing in court if you expect relief for someone using your work. In the same way, you can simply put a copyright symbol ( (c) ) on your work and it will retain some protection, but only for a limited time. If you fail to complete the copyright process within five years, the courts will often determine that you had no interest in either pursuing or defending that copyright.

Here's the text of how that goes. The important consideration is "after examination":

(a) When, after examination, the Register of Copyrights determines that, in accordance with the provisions of this title, the material deposited constitutes copyrightable subject matter and that the other legal and formal requirements of this title have been met, the Register shall register the claim and issue to the applicant a certificate of registration under the seal of the Copyright Office. The certificate shall contain the information given in the application, together with the number and effective date of the registration.

(b) In any case in which the Register of Copyrights determines that, in accordance with the provisions of this title, the material deposited does not constitute copyrightable subject matter or that the claim is invalid for any other reason, the Register shall refuse registration and shall notify the applicant in writing of the reasons for such refusal.

(c) In any judicial proceedings the certificate of a registration made before or within five years after first publication of the work shall constitute prima facie evidence of the validity of the copyright and of the facts stated in the certificate. The evidentiary weight to be accorded the certificate of a registration made thereafter shall be within the discretion of the court.

(d) The effective date of a copyright registration is the day on which an application, deposit, and fee, which are later determined by the Register of Copyrights or by a court of competent jurisdiction to be acceptable for registration, have all been received in the Copyright Office.



Now, if the copyright office issued notification of copyright--with the office's seal--then, that's valid in court. If you were able to do that with the simple registration fee, that's great. Most works anticipating commercial publication require more research, for which the LOC charges additional hourly fees. (On edit, I should add that commercial enterprises get kind of a pass on the latter issue, especially for ongoing publications--the LOC assumes they're editorially vetting their own material--that's why newspapers and magazines get lump sum annual rates for copyrighting their own material. For individual authors not associated with an established firm, it's another matter.)

Cheers.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:28 AM
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7. Curious
It is of no never mind to me actually. (an ego thing).

I was given a TX number and effective date of registration. The paper work says nothing about further requirements. I guess I will call them tomorrow.

Since the whole process took only thirty days I was surprised.

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:32 AM
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8. If you have a registration number...
... and received a document with that number and the copyright office seal (actual or representational), you're probably cool.

That's what the law requires. If you got it, the law will support you in any claim.

Cheers.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:50 AM
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9. Oh Boy!
Now 'Voyages of the Vicky Mary' will make it to the wide screen and people will say 'WOW' as they fidget and squirm on their numb butts while searching franticly for the escape hatch.

I guess. Sigh and hee hee hee.

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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:49 AM
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3. Writer's Digest
I submitted my book and one hundred bucks to a Writer's Digest contest. Of course it was/is an ego trip. In return I received a cool certificate (Suitable for framing) a written review, a thank you and mention of my book and name on their web site. What a deal! But it was fun-the waiting and anticipation.

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 10:55 AM
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10. My friend knows a woman who won, said it opened up a lot of doors
and she recently sold a script.

My script placed in the quarter finals, I doubt will get a look, but you never know.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:07 AM
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11. I hope all the screenwriters will look at the thread on Election Fraud
here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

We need your ideas and insights. And if somebody should steal our work
and actually make a movie from it--would that be so bad? Seems to me
that writing something actually worth stealing would be quite a coup!

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:36 AM
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12. I always thought Kathy Bates would be great you know who
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:43 PM
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13. " great you know who"
Sorry, that's way too cryptic for me.

I do hope the screenwriters here will lose their paranoia for two
minutes and contribute to the vote fraud movie thread. The concept is that the copyright will belong to DU.


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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:51 PM
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14. black box voting - the woman behind it - Bev Harris
Sorry, I couldn't think of her name at the time.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 01:28 PM
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15. I have a legal problem from the "Imagine the Movie" thread
Maybe some of you whose paranoid screenwriting instincts are better
honed than mine can advise us.

We are working to develop a script on election fraud, the copyright of
which will belong to DU. The project with the most momentum right now
is a film version of the book "VoteScam" about the adventures of the
rock promoters the Collier brothers in the 1970's and 1980's, but we
have taken no steps yet toward aquiring rights to this material.

Someone has offered to donate a completed script. My concern is that
Hollywood for obvious reasons refuses to read unsolicited scripts. Can
anyone suggest a way to work around the obvious legal dangers of reading
a script that's an unknown quantity?





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