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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:15 PM
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As Bush leaves, so does pardon shot for Roger Clemens


BY MICHAEL O'KEEFFE
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Wednesday, January 21st 2009, 12:01 PM

Roger Clemens has no ace in the hole in George Bush, who leaves office without granting pitcher pardon.

There was no last-minute pardon for Roger Clemens before President Bush left the White House Tuesday, and the federal grand jury that has been examining evidence that the former Yankee star committed perjury will continue its work.

Brian McNamee's attorney Richard Emery raised the possibility of a Bush pardon after Clemens testified at the Feb. 13, 2008, congressional hearing on the Mitchell Report.

"We're glad neither Clemens nor Bush stooped to conquer," Emery said. "We hope by raising the issue we inoculated it and helped avoid it."

Emery said he raised the pardon issue because Republican members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform seemed eager to protect Clemens and attack McNamee during last year's hearing.

Clemens also brought up his friendship with former President George H.W. Bush during the hearing. Clemens testified that he was never contacted by former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell or his investigators, but Bush Sr. tracked him down on a duck hunt to wish him well after the release of the explosive report on steroids and baseball.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009...
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:26 PM
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1. Barry Bonds didn't get one either.
:shrug:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:49 PM
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2. I'm just going to guess, but I doubt Barry Bonds is a big
George W Bush fan, and vice versa.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:00 PM
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4. Why would you say that?
bush is an expert on baseball and choosing talent and bonds is good at not doing the right thing. A perfect match. I'm surprised bonds didn't get a job in the bush administration. Secretary of Big Heads??
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:10 PM
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6. Bush is an expert on baseball?
:wtf:

Yea, those Rangers teams of his were tremendous. :eyes:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:25 PM
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9. And
you are an expert on ethical behavior by sports figures. Is sarcasm lost on you or are you just sharing some of that UT edumucation??
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:28 PM
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10. I intentionally misinterpret sarcasm if it allows me an
opportunity to lash out at Barry haters. :bounce:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:33 PM
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11. I feel so lashed
Too bad he won't go down as one of the Greatest baseball players ever like Mike Schmidt.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:39 PM
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12. Of course he will. He's hit more homers than any other
player in baseball.

And I'm not talking about Mike Schmidt, who doesn't even rank among the top 10, even though you've crowned him the greatest.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:50 PM
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14. Mike's head is wear the crown should be
for the greatest home run hitter ever. Don't talk to me of statistics and numbers, talk to me of greatness. Now if you are talking greatest steroid user who happens to need them to help him hit homeruns why of course, Mike's not in the running.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:04 PM
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13. Greatest baseball player?? Certainly you must be referring to Pete Rose.
No steroids with old Pete!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:52 PM
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15. I agree
that Pete, like Mike, is ONE of the greatest baseball players ever.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:00 PM
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16. Well we don't know that. But I agree he is one of the greatest
players and definitely deserves to be in the hall.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:04 PM
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17. He does deserve to be in the Hall for his playing years.
Not the years he spent playing the scores as a manager.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:59 PM
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3. Was there talk of one, cboy?
I missed that.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:08 PM
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5. Yea, there's been talk .. Clemens is a huge Bushie

McNamee's lawyer: Bush would pardon Clemens



By A.J. Perez, USA TODAY

Roger Clemens could receive a pardon from President Bush if the seven-time Cy Young Award winner is ever pursued for lying to federal officials, a lawyer for Clemens' accuser said Thursday.

Clemens is a close friend of the first President Bush, even building a horseshoe pit at his Texas home at the suggestion of the former president.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-02-14-clem...



Roger Clemens Will Receive Presidential Pardon Due to His Republican Connections



The strange spectacle of Republican members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform praising Roger Clemens and attacking his former trainer Brian McNamee became clearer today, when one of the members of the McNamee's legal team, Richard D. Emery of Emery Celli Brinckerhoff & Ab
adyhttp://www.ecbalaw.com/attorneys/emery.html, predicted that Clemens is lobbying for a pardon from President Bush George W. Bush. Clemens had lobbied the members of the Committee before the Wednesday hearing, meeting with the Congressmen and their staffs. His lobbying efforts included signing autographs for Congressional staffers.

Most of the Democrats on the Committee, including Chairman Henry Waxman (D-California), were harder on Roger Clemens than were their brethren from the other side of the aisle. Many of the Republicans praised Clemens as a hero, and their logic seemed to be that as a hero, Clemens had to be believed, whereas the unsavory Brian McNamee, as a chronic liar, not only couldn't be trusted but was actually lying under oath at the hearing.

Brian McNamee was severely criticicized by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-California), Rep. Dan Burton ( R-Indiana), Virginia Foxx (R-North Carolina), and Christopher Shays (R-Connecticut), who called McNamee a "drug dealer." Burton excoriated McNamee as a pathological liar, accusing him of telling "lie after lie after lie after lie." Foxx, after denouncing the hearing, produced photographic evidence of Roger Clemens throughout his career, making the point that he had not changed physically, over time, so couldn't have been on the juice.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/603347/roger_c...

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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:12 PM
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7. Such a shame.
I feel so bad for that stand up fellow. One honest Texan.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 04:18 PM
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8. That's a shame.
:rofl:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:23 PM
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19. you know
this thread makes a strong case for your suggestion of the regulars changing their DU names to fuckstick#1,2,3....etc.. :rofl:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:04 PM
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21. I'll telling you, it's gold.
:D
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:10 PM
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22. Which one are you, Snyder??
:rofl:

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:44 PM
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24. not sure
but I'll let you and cboy argue out who is number one.. :P
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:14 PM
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18. Don't you have to be convicted to be pardoned?
Has he been convicted of anything yet? ?
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:05 AM
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31. Nope
You don't have to be convicted to be eligible for a pardon... or at least that was the thinking when Ford pardoned Nixon.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:49 PM
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20. I see Eddie DeBartolo didn't get a pardon also!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:12 PM
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23. Roger Clemens didn't win me five super bowls.
Eddie? YUP! Sure did.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:49 PM
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25. Hmm. I'm sure all those mob connections had a lot to do with that!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:53 PM
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26. Whatever works!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:59 PM
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27. Win at all costs?
:wtf:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:17 PM
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28. I agree having Montana, Young and Rice on the same team
should been against the law. :rofl:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:57 PM
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29. Hmm. A little mob help to make it happen.
:shrug:

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:30 PM
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30. No, I'm pretty sure we got them fair and square
But nice try Alberto. :eyes:

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