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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:10 PM
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Why are beach volleyball uniforms so different for men and women?
Is there some reason?

Cause if not, isn't it kinda unfair to have eye-candy for some but not others?


And unless there's some reason for the difference in gymnastics, I think they might also need to consider switching to more revealing outfits for the men.



Fair is fair.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:46 PM
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1. I don't know why everyone pretends to not know the answer to The World's Easiest Question...
Guys like looking at girls' bodies.

Whatever bad comment that makes on various cultural institutions, fine. But that's the answer.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:38 PM
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2. But women (and lots of guys) don't like looking at mens' bodies?
Since when?
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:07 AM
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4. Its about $$$
A man named Bart McGuire was the head of the WTA for a brief period. He is generally credited with being the person who saved women's tennis, and the man that forever changed it for the worse. He was the driving force behind the marketing of tennis athletes as sex symbols. While the WTA never before embraced such a stance, he brought in major sponsors and rating by focusing in on how sexy the women were. He ut athletes like Anna K on adverts, who were beautiful, but never won a tournament. He also finally quit over the hell that he let happen when the tennis players became big stars off the court and they began to make demands and pull out of tourneys that they did not like. He was shown the door, because he created a monster, but he made women's tennis what it is today.

Volleyball realized that their female athletes were just as beautiful as the tennis athletes, so they tried a spin on McGuire's marketing plan. Since the change to the new "required uniform" (tiny bikinis), the sport has gotten HUGE sponsorship deals. Also, the TV ratings for women's hockey are beating other big sports, like professional hockey and mens' tennis in non majors. Sure its easy to sell something with beautiful women in little clothing, but I think the skill at which these women play are whats keeping the attention. But its hard to argue with the success the change in uniform has brought to the sport.

On the men's side, the ratings are not there. Men have played shirtless and it did nothing for the ratings nor did it attract sponsors. Its a business. If it would make money, the men would play in speedos. As for why shirtless men playing volleyball did not attract viewers like women in bikinis has, I leave that to the cultural experts. I think stereotypes about hetero men in the desired advertising age bracket being more visually stimulated than women in the same age bracket is accurate. I think a lot of young men watch the sport because of the "hot chicks" while a lot of young women do not watch the sport because of the "hot guys."

I think you can see this in other sports as well. The "sexy" Agassi advertising did not bring in huge ratings to men's tennis, but when he and Sampras began their series of great matches, the ratings went up. The resent success of Federer and Nadal have only drawn the huge ratings when they play each other. However, the ratings are great when Misty May-Treanor and Kerri Walsh are destroying other teams. May-Treanor/Walsh are so much better than everyone else right now, its not really fair to compare them to other sports where no one is as dominant, but I find it interesting that they still garner huge TV ratings when they destroy other teams. I think their beauty is a major reason.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:06 AM
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5. Yeah... I can't say I'd watch if the men had to dress like the women.
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 09:07 AM by redqueen
I guess stereotypes are there for a reason.

*sigh*

I wish I wasn't a woman.


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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:50 PM
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10. Its true for me too
I am a hetero male who has no objection to seeing beautiful athletic women in small bikinis. I am a clear example of the stereotype being accurate, of course there are plenty of men who disagree, but I suspect the majority are like me and would love to see more attractive females wearing small bikinis.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:20 PM
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9. That's why they have water polo
Even as a guy I have to say :wow:

http://www.usawaterpolo.org/Home.aspx
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:27 AM
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3. One of the American beach volleyball women said she was proud to put on the uniform
I think it was the taller of the great team. I guess that would be Walsh.

She looks good in white. :rofl:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:02 AM
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6. Guys in Bras??
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:37 AM
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7. It was pouring down rain the other day, and the guys shirts were soaked
The commenters said something about how the waterlogged shirts were making it tough to block or spike and not hit the net.


Advantage - bikini.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:25 PM
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8. The sex aspect, esp. the lesbian undercurrent, is a major draw
Kerry & Misty rolling in the sand in their embrace in 2004 was on a huge % of the world's newspapers. Even though they're both breeders. It's also possible that bikinis are more comfortable for women to play v-ball in, whilst speedos would NOT be for the men.

The girls are a bit too lean for my taste. Especially compared to, say, you, redqueen.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:51 PM
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11. I was thinking the same thing. Seems sexist to me.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:26 AM
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12. Because the men don't have to cover their boobs. (n/t)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:16 AM
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13. That's supposed to be a joke, I guess.
Better luck next time.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:54 PM
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14. Hmmmmm...
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 01:56 PM by WilliamPitt




It's a mystery.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:15 PM
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15. If you're just posting "hot chicks" to post "hot chicks" then fine.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 02:16 PM by redqueen
If not, dr strangelove already answered adequately.

On the men's side, the ratings are not there. Men have played shirtless and it did nothing for the ratings nor did it attract sponsors. Its a business. If it would make money, the men would play in speedos. As for why shirtless men playing volleyball did not attract viewers like women in bikinis has, I leave that to the cultural experts. I think stereotypes about hetero men in the desired advertising age bracket being more visually stimulated than women in the same age bracket is accurate. I think a lot of young men watch the sport because of the "hot chicks" while a lot of young women do not watch the sport because of the "hot guys."
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:20 PM
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16. "...a lot of young women do not watch the sport because of the "hot guys."
Don't tell that to my girlfriend. She's been riveted by the men's games in Beijing, and not because of the drama of the contest. :)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:39 PM
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17. Yeah... I know a handful of women who are the same...
guess the key words dr strangelove used are "a lot".

I'd love it if there were more... but I think I'm just obsessed with balance. :P
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