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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:41 AM
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Nine questions re: "Spygate II"...hmmm...
From a thread posted on forum at CHFF.com here:

http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6851


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My questions about spygate II

1) According to various media accounts and Matt Walsh’s current employers bio on him, Mr. Walsh left the Patriots in 2003

However, according to his own wedding announcement he left in January 2002.

http://www.projo.com/weddings/content/projo_20040815_kenn15x.33494a.html

The Patriots went to the SB that year, which means he left before the season was over. A year later he gets a job working with NFL Europe. Maybe there was a typo or maybe he lied to his employer so it didn’t look like he was unemployed for a year.

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2) Speaking of creditability does it bother anyone that he claims to have spent parts of two seasons on the golf team, the college's sports information office has no record of him in its files?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3226465

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3) Walsh hints to have copies of said tapes with evidence of Patriots cheating. I doubt Patriot policy would allow him to make copies of tapes for his personal use, so if he did they are stolen. Does he actually claim to have hard evidence or is the media just jumping to conclusions?

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4) If we are talking about the Patriots spying on the Rams why aren’t we also talking about the Rams spying on the Patriots?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE4DB153DF931A35751C0A9649C8B63

"Halfway through practice, Patriots' linebackers coach Pepper Johnson noticed something in a third-floor window of a house next to the field. Club and league officials said a telescope was clearly visible in the window, according to a pool report, and that 15 minutes later, a person appeared at the window, and then vanished. Officials scanned the window with binoculars, but the person never returned."

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5) According to this story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3226465

"Obviously, Mangini knew what was going on and it had been going on for a while," Walsh said. "They tried to catch them doing it last year and weren't able to. So they were just waiting for them to throw the camera up this year on the sideline. But afterwards, I get the impression the league said to them, 'Hey, kind of back down from this; let us take care of it,' because Mangini probably could have come out and said more, made more of a deal out of it if he wanted to."

Mr. Walsh has inside information that the Jets tried and failed to catch the Pats spying in 2006. Whether he left in 2002 or 2003... how does he have inside information about 2006?

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6) According to http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3227245

The unnamed source we all assume is Walsh claims that a Patriots employee stayed behind and video taped the event

"According to the report, an unnamed source close to the team during the 2001 season said that following the Patriots' walk-through at the Louisiana Superdome, a member of the team's video staff stayed behind and taped the Rams' walk-through -- a non-contact, no-pads practice at reduced speed in which a team goes through its plays.

The cameraman was not asked to identify himself or produce a press pass and later rode the media shuttle back to the Patriots' hotel, the source told the Herald. It is not known what became of the tape, or whether the cameraman made the tape on his own initiative or at someone else's instruction, according to the report."

Yet according to http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2002/playoffs/news/2002/02/02/pats_practice_ap/

Practices are a closed event so he could not hide among the media....

Or maybe someone thought he was a family member of one of the Rams, and he took a tape the equivalent to the Rams family home video....

Yeah thats the edge the Pats need...film of the Ram players hugging their kids.

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7) Specter is Comcast’s lead senator in the fight with the NFL over if it should be part of basic cable or a sport package. According to opensecrets.org his second largest donor is Comcast. How is what the senator doing any different than the shake down of Moss?

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8) According to http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20080202_Spygate_sparring.html

The senator or his chief of staff attempted to use the office to get tickets for the SB. Is that a violation of senate ethic rules?

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9) When did the rules about side line video taping go in to effect? Best as I can tell it wasn’t until 2006, but I might be wrong. If it wasn’t in effect when Walsh worked with the Patriots, why would it matter if they taped then?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:13 AM
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1. You're going to spend the rest of your life chasing this shit....
and that's simply the downside of Belichicks unwise decision to film the other team.

I'm really sorry that SpyGate has become an albatross for Pat's fans.

Oh well.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:22 AM
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3. Meh.
Anyone who thinks the Pats won 18 straight games this year because of videotapes doesn't know a whole lot about football...and yeah, Belichick is now (in my opinion) a sports version of Bill Clinton, i.e. awesome once-a-generation talent who achieved great things...yet is stained by one unimaginably stupid act that time can't erase.

Specter is an Eagles fan, the Herald is fishwrap, and this new story is bullshit.

Won't matter.

We'll enjoy it here if we win.

But yeah. :(
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:30 AM
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4. Dude---I agree 100 percent with you... honestly I do.
But you can't deny it's a bit of an albatross.... and you can't deny that from here on I'll bring it up just to bust your chops...:-)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:37 AM
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5. I expect nothing less
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 07:38 AM by WilliamPitt
I zap cboy4 on the Pats getting the Niners 1st round draft pick next year...you get me with this...and the wheel goes round. ;)

:toast:

Where you watching the game tonight?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:44 AM
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6. Neighbors house--- We got a Pot Luck going...
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 07:44 AM by trumad
When my team isn't involved, I admit I'm not totally into the SB---which means I haven't been interested in a long time--LOL

But this one is different--- I think it's a great match up and if it's anything like their last meeting, it will truly be a memorable one.

How about yourself---let me guess--- corner pub?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:51 AM
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7. Close.
Ten minute walk to a bar in the shadow of Fenway:

http://www.casknflagon.com/about.html

http://www.casknflagon.com/interiors.html

My friends are bartending. 60 flat-screen HD TVs in all directions + 3 90-inch HD projection screens.

Excellent football bar. If you're ever in town during football or baseball season, beers are on me.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:00 AM
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8. I look forward to that day to meet you in person....
and its got to be in a pub where we can slam a few beers and talk about our grizzled past on DU.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:05 AM
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9. Done
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:22 AM
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10. Now that's a pub!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:24 AM
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11. What time do you have to arrive for a good seat?
Oh and remember---pace yourself.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:43 AM
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13. I'm going at 2pm, having volunteered to be "that guy who holds seats for everyone."
And I will pace myself for sure.

If the bartenders will let me. :)
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:25 AM
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12. You're assuming that most people give a fuck what you think.
Don't make assumptions :)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:25 AM
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14. Well obviously Pitt does...
so my assumption must be correct----and yours..... dead wrong.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:26 AM
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15. Pitt is "most people"
I had no idea he had so many personalities. :)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:54 AM
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16. I had no idea that you were the spokeman of the DU sports forum.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:58 PM
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19. Now you know.
:)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:45 AM
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17. The Pats performance this year
or in the past is irrelevant to the actual cheating and alleged cheating neither of which was punished significantly enough to ensure it does not happen again and has no place in the conversation accept by those who would rather enable billichick. "Specter is an Eagle fan?" Relevance? So I guess we now know why Kennedy or Kerry have not called for any look see. Makes as much sense. And how do you know it was ONE stupid act? The Herald might be a fishwrap but per ESPN, the NFL has known about the current spy allegations for months. Its nice to hear Specter bring up the integrity angle in his chat this morning.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:52 AM
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18. Specter.
My hero. Mr. Magic Bullet Theory.

He's a Republican Senator, too. So he must be on the level.

Nine questions above, sir.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:16 AM
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2. Stop Making Sense!!!!!!
How dare you try to get in the way of a good witch hunt! "Billichick" is ruining the game and coming after your firstborn children! :sarcasm:

Seriously though, this Walsh guy needs show the world the tape he made or shut the fuck up.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:32 PM
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20. Patriot's new logo
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