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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:19 PM
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Which States Comprise New England?
Do the Pats represent the original 13 colonies? or just the N.E. states?
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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:24 PM
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1. New England north to south, west to east
Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine
Massachusetts, Rhode Island
Connecticut.

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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:24 PM
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2. MA, NH, VT, ME, RI, and part of CT
Everyone west of the river in CT is a Giants fan--lousy traitors! :evilgrin:
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eg101 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:25 PM
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6. now I used to live in upstate NY, and THAT is New England
no doubt-a-bout-it....
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:13 PM
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13. My wife is from Upstate NY, and let me tell you ...
Ithaca, maybe, is New England, b/c it leans very, very left ... almost as though Cambridge had sprouted a colony. :) The rest of Upstate New York is more like Arkansas than New England ... run-down farms, junk cars on blocks, poor dental hygeine. :evilgrin:
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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:24 PM
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18. Man oh man
that Arkansas comment stings.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:19 AM
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19. Well...
your description of Upstate NY does match a good portion of Vermont, NH and Maine... so, perhaps New England is more varied in nature than the GOP cliche shows it to be.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:14 PM
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14. I'm from the part of CT that roots for NY
Otherwise known as Fairfield County. I never saw a Pats, Sox or Celtics game growing up unless it was national. I grew up on a steady diet of Yankees and Giants. Thank God for that!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:20 AM
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20. The 'burbs, in other words!
:hi:
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eg101 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:24 PM
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3. MN, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY? eom
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:24 PM
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4. Just the New England states, by gum!
Those other seven can get their own team.
N.E. is comprised of Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont. :hi:
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:25 PM
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5. NE Patriots
Conn, RI, Mass, Vt, NH, Maine

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:29 PM
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7. Does anyone rember the Boston Patriots?
The long answer.

The Patriots were originally known as the Boston Partiots, an original franchise of the old AFL. The AFL & NFL merged; the AFL became know as the AFC.

At that time, the Patriots had no stadium of their own, playing in venues such as Fenway Park, Nickerson Field and Harvard Stadium.

In the 60's, they build a stadium (Sullivan) in Foxboro (no ugh, go figure), which is about 30 miles south of Boston. They were no longer in the city and wanted to attract new fans, so they changed their name to New England.

New England is comprised of the four original colonies(Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut and New Hampshire) and two additional states (Vermont (which was a republic) and Maine (which was part of Massachusetts).
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:34 PM
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8. Hey I rooted for the "Pats" last night did get a little over the top a ...
few times yelling "Yeah"...just couldn't see a Superbowl between 2 Pa. teams. I did have a few strange looks but who cares...I like New England.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:45 PM
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9. New England is
Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:53 PM
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10. So, When The Pats Have A Victory Parade....
do they have to go to all six state capitols?
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:48 PM
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12. Yes
As a matter of fact, they do... at different times.
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ohkay Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:24 PM
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15. Pats AND Sox!
The Sox have been to all 6 states w/ The Trophy so far. John Henry has also promised to take The Trophy to whatever town in MA wants to see it.
I <heart> him. :loveya:
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:27 PM
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11. all those east of/on the Connecticut River

It's kinda complicated, but involves the tribal alliances and homelands prior to the conquests and settlement by English colonists. Basically, it's everything south of the St Lawrence drainage and east of the Hudson River drainage excluding the Richelieu and Hoosic Rivers. In present day Connecticut it's more complicated because Indian villages west of the Connecticut River there, in e.g. the Housatonic River basin, never belonged to the alliances to the east and north (Pocumtuck or Pequot, New England) or the Delaware Indian ones at the mouth of the Hudson (New York). The cultural and tribal-political lines set by Indians remain remarkably conserved to this day- in part because they follow along ecosystem divisions and geographical barriers, in part because different colonies/states had treaty systems with only particular tribal alliances and sabotaged each other when they tried to "poach" land, uh, 'acquisitions'. The Indians they knew also taught them how to adapt to the land/creatures/natural phenomena and seem to have given an attitudinal adaption too. The English intellectuals thought the New England Algonquins compared to the Iroquois like the ancient Greeks to the ancient Romans.

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skippysmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:24 AM
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16. CT is indeed part of New England
Along with MA, RI, NH, ME and VT. However, some people look toward Gotham for their sports teams so some seem to think CT isn't really part of New England. I grew up in CT, lived in upstate NY for a while, and now I am in MA, and there is a definite difference between the New England states and NY. I can't put my finger on why, but the atmosphere is different, the architecture and some of the scenery.

However, I do know some people in CT who won't root for the Pats because Kraft used Hartford by threatening to move there in order to get a new stadium out of MA. A lot of people got their hopes up that CT would finally get a professional sports franchise of its own, after losing the Whalers to NC, only to realize they'd been used.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 08:47 AM
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17. i know pLenty of peopLe from CT
that think they're from NYC. it's a bizarre phenomenon.

me: "where ya from?"

him: "new york city"

me: "oh yeah? which part?"

him: "bridgeport"
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