Moss Likely to Be Fined for Fake-Mooning (NFL)

[wicket]

http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2005/01/10/ap/sports/d87hd6j08.txt

Randy Moss is almost sure to be fined for pretending to moon fans in Green Bay during a playoff win, according to NFL rules. The league is looking into the star receiver's antics in Minnesota's 31-17 win over the Packers on Sunday and will announce its ruling later this week.

-snip-

On Sunday, Moss caught a touchdown pass in the fourth quarter and headed toward the goalpost. He then turned his back to the Lambeau Field crowd, bent over and pantomimed pulling down his pants.

"Just having a little fun with the boys," Moss told a Fox reporter as he left the field. "I hope I don't get in trouble by it, but if I do I'll take the heat."

[Systematic Chaos]

1. What a piece of shit.

Walking off the field and now this? Despicable. :(

[alarimer]

95. give me a break

[LTR]

122. Oh, bullshit!

Brett Favre walked off the field and into the locker room in a game versus the Vikings a year or two ago. Any big deal made about this? No, since the sports media practically fellates Favre and thinks Moss is a scumbag.

Well, Moss isn't perfect, and he does do some foolish things. But I'd like to see how you do with your life lived under a microscope, with everyone waiting to pounce on every screwup you do.

What's rarely reported about Moss is that in his offtime, he does volunteer work with children. He refuses to make a big deal out of it. Bet you didn't know that, huh?

[KitchenWitch]

151. Walking off the field

was absolutely despicable, the fake moon was fairly sophomoric. I think he should be fined for walking off the field and warned for the fake moon.

[mtnester]

2. I thought it was funny as hell!

how can you fine someone for FAKE mooning? What about that little town that every year the entire town moons a train?

and the announcers went WAY overboard...used words like "disgusting" and "tasteless"

Jeezuz, you cannot have ANY fun anymore! Hope they levy the little fine it should be, and move on.

Again, it was hysterical.

[Rainbowreflect]

39. Sure, bad sportsmanship, taunting & rude behavior

is the height of fun. NOT!

[mtnester]

49. How is this different from any other stupid dance or chest thumping at the

crowd after a touchdown?

It just happened to be funnier.

[Rainbowreflect]

62. I did not say it was any worse.

I am sick of all the bad sportsmanship out there.
I sometimes watch ESPN Classics and I'm amazed at the lack of taunting & rude behavior in the games from the 70s, 80s and earlier. I'm sure I sound like an old lady, but our society is getting ruder & ruder and it makes me sad.

[Darknyte7]

66. I'm sorry....

but this is breaking news?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[jakefrep]

156. "Sportsmanship" is grossly overrated

I appreciate good sportsmanship (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore), but I'm sick and tired of the ridiculous hysterics that seem to accompany even the most minor breach of etiquette.

The League is filled with real criminals and they think a fake mooning is damaging to theire image?

[AllegroRondo]

3. They should suspend him for the rest of the season

[el_gato]

5. that's stupid

some people are so easily offended

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. Note the Brewers logo.

You don't think they could POSSIBLY be a Packer fan, do you?

[AllegroRondo]

36. That one was already taken

[Renew Deal]

85. The Packers logo was already taken?

huh?

[AllegroRondo]

138. Theres a regular poster who uses it

I didnt want people to get confused

[donheld]

120. Yes it is stupid

fake mooning. If people weren't taking it so seriously it would be laughable.

[kysrsoze]

134. Somebody should notify the FCC

Evidently they have nothing else to be concerned about. It was a FAKE moon. The fans there actually do moon the players. This is ultra-stupidity at its finest.

[Darknyte7]

68. ROTFLMAO...

[slutticus]

132. No shit!

Can I borrow your smiley?

Thanks

[jeffrey_X]

76. lighten up people.....Do you know how much shit he took from the fans

during the game?

Do you also know that is common practice for the opposing team to get mooned by packer fans on the way out of Lambau?? (Per Tony Dungee)

[AllegroRondo]

77. But they dont do it on national TV

[HuckleB]

86. Oh, poor Randy.

:eyes:

It's a good thing he doesn't play in the NBA, where the players actually stand right next to the taunting fans for, uh, 82 games a year (compared to 16 in the NFL). Sorry, but these guys get paid big bucks to keep their cool. Not to mention the reality that the real pros ignore the idiots in the stands.

As for a few drunken idiot fans mooning an opposing team's bus, it's happened in every NFL city, and it doesn't justify Moss' juvenile baloney.

[GiovanniC]

101. The Regular Season

Not the post-season.

;-)

[LTR]

123. I think they should suspend all of the Packers for the rest of the season

Oh wait!

Sorry, had to rub it in. ;) I'm a Vikings fan.

[jakefrep]

155. Why?

[morgan2]

4. so ridiculous

it was funny, he didn't moon anyone. He faked it. Some people are way to up tight. I could see the NFL fining him because the NFL doesn't want to offend people, but its ridiculous that anyone is offended.

[mtnester]

7. Quite honestly, of all the end zone dances, etc. I thought this one

was the funniest, and a whole lot better than that twitching that normally goes on.

[tishaLA]

6. So is it true what I heard....

That some Packer fans moon the visiting team's bus when it leaves after games, and that this is considered quaint fun? And that they don't pretend to moon--they actually DO it?

To me, the most disgraceful thing on the field yesterday was Brett Favre's performance, not Randy Moss's pantomime.

[Sparkle]

8. That's just silly!

[FredScuttle]

9. If you're a Packer fan, you think this is just

I thought it was funny.

If the NFL fines him a dollar over $5,000 (which incidentally was the amount fellow first-time offender Jake Plummer got for giving the finger to some fans), I'll be very suspicious

[petron]

10. Re-effing-lax people

It was funny people, now laugh!

Not sure if you know this: apparently is tradition for the Packer fans to "non-pretened" moon the visiting teams bus as it leave Lambeau field. Are you disgusted with that? I doubt it-kneejerkers.

Laugh, it's good for you!

[0007]

11. I'm not a big fan of Randy Moss, but I saw the incident and it was

nothing more than pure insanity and anyone who wants to make anything out of this is nuts. The announcer that commented on it afterward should be fired for not keeping his stupid mouth shut!

You could read what ever you want too in this action by Moss.

[oldtime dfl_er]

15. It was juvenile but about as offensive as sticking out a tongue

A fine? Ridiculous. Really.

[0007]

30. Talking about tongues, I wonder what Mr. Buck would say about this;


This is worse than Randy's deed?
This is junior's high class daughter!

[OldVlad]

110. So you're not a big fan of Moss and think everyone talking about it is nut

Yet for some reason you think that the announcer who dared criticize this spoiled premadonna should be fired for that?

Thanks for your thoughts on this, Mrs Moss.

[0007]

119. You have a reading problem, sonny?

[jayfish]

154. I Think He Does -NT-

Jay

[BrainRants]

12. Then he rubbed his ass on the Packer goal post

Watch the entire clip (sorry, no link, I watched the game). He did just a little more than mock pulling down his pants.

That's OK, cause his ass is going to get spanked in Philly next week anyways. Then he can STFU until next year. :)

[oneighty]

26. Charmin Toilet Paper bear

rub his stinking butt up against a tree on TV hundreds of times. Nobody find that offensive. (Except me of course, I find it offensive).

180

[Berserker]

43. I also heard he dry humped the goal post and killed a kitten.

[BrainRants]

56. Close, he really dry humped the kitten with the goal post.

LOL! You bastard, that made me laugh hard...and I live in Green Bay!

We got spanked, it's only a matter of time before it catches up with the Vikes. I'll root for them 'cause they're in our division.

They've got two more chances to bring back something with the word "Championship" on it this year. We Packer fans already have ours.

:)

[Tuttle]

83. link

http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/sports/000482.html

Tut-tut

[LTR]

124. This is even more obscene

And they give Janet Jackson a hard time for showing part of her tit!

[oneighty]

13. I find all hot sports hot-dogging offensive

and the cute little taunting victory dances, etc etc etc.

But hey it is just a fun game played by millionaires.

And finally "Who cares?"

180

[Krupskaya]

14. People are looking for reasons to hate Randy Moss.

The whole thing last week was ridiculous. I couldn't believe his teammates -- the ones who LOST the game against Washington -- were giving Randy a hard time. Esp. Culpepper whining about how "We do all this blah blah work and he goes off the field." Culpepper looked like shite in that game, and for him to have the balls to say that shows he's a lot more of an ass than Randy.

People are just looking for it, and he's giving it to him. Frankly, I think he kicks ass.

[underpants]

21. Gee (scratches head) I wonder what all this could stem from.....

Hmmm talented young man with lots of money.......hmm what am I missing here..........let's see how would I describe the crowd at Lambeau field.........mmmmm in one word it would be.......okay hold it the announcer is ................it is right there I just can't quite find the correct words.......

[Krupskaya]

24. Ding ding ding!

You got it, king.

[underpants]

70. Thanks

I think growing up in WV Moss can smell it and knows not to step in it. He is throwing it right back in the faces, literally. The 'fro was an extra special touch too (8 or 9 Vikes have them going now-a team "us vs. the world" thing).

I could smell it too.

[jayfish]

28. Uhhh, I Think Your...

looking for the word WHITE. :) I can't seem to put my finger on why they single out Randy Moss though? I think what Eric Barton did to Drew Brees is more fine-worthy than anything Randy Moss ever did.(by both the league and the team).

Jay

[Wright Patman]

37. Brett Favre

is the great white hope and was outplayed by Culpepper. So the Packers (Where is that freak Fred Phelps when we need him to pick up on the gay reference; he needs a "God Hates Packers" site) and their fans were already in a foul mood over that.

[Krupskaya]

38. Brett Favre is the most overrated QB out there.

The way he lays out receivers, I can't believe anyone plays for him.

[BrainRants]

47. Kurt Warner? n/t

[Krupskaya]

52. Also overrated...

...but his shit is done, thankfully. Brett Favre farts and sportscasters everywhere say it was the sweetest thing they've ever smelled.

[BrainRants]

59. Brett's been doing it for 15 seasons, gotta respect that.

Then again, this is football not water ballet. For anyone to survive as a target that long without a major injury is an accomplishment regardless of what the sportscasters think.

[HuckleB]

88. LOL!

:eyes:

Sumbody's jealous.

}( :D :P

[OldVlad]

112. Yes, the reason people think Moss is a punk is because he's not white

I never thought about that, Randy being the only black receiver has been tough on the racist crowd and announcer to deal with, so they are lashing out on this really nice guy and victim. Poor poor Randy, that meter maid had it coming.

[jayfish]

140. Racism Can Be A Very Sublte...

thing but I guess that escapes you. Oh, and what does the meter maid incident have to do with fake-mooning? I never said he wasn't a punk but unless he has broken the NFLs' anti fake-mooning policy the NFL should STFU.

Jay

[OldVlad]

143. racism is subtle, stupidity is not

The guy lacks class or respect for the game, I think Joe Buck and the NFL were right to dare criticize the premadonna. The only problem with this situation is whiney apologists, like you, that find "racism" every time a rich, spoil black athlete makes a misstake.

[jayfish]

153. Like I Said Before...

who cares if he lacks class or respect for the game? The Vik's pay him to play football and thats what he does. I also don't care if Joe Buck or you or anyone else criticizes Randy Moss until he's rotting in the grave. What I care about is stupidity as a punishable offense. "Whiney apologists like" me huh? Boy, you don't even know who the F your talking to. There are plenty of things I would like to say about you and that comment but I value my posting privileges here at DU.

Jay

[jakefrep]

157. What the hell is "respect for the game?"

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

25. I don't care what way you cut it.

Moss shouldn't have left the field. That's just not acting like a professional and it's completely bullshit. There is no rationalization for it.

[underpants]

65. Okay if they hadn't shown that on TV would it be an issue?

NO NFL players leave the field as the half or game ends?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

137. As a TEAM they do.

Not individually.

[HuckleB]

89. Umm. He's earned it all on his own. No one needs to look for reasons.

Year after year it's more of the same. Culpepper said what he needed to say. Nothing more, nothing less. It would have been ridiculous for him to stay silent. Moss has been in the league too long to still be acting like a spoiled 12 year old.

[Zero Gravitas]

16. Moss is a clown

but the over-reaction to this is absurd. The FOX announcer's pompous indignity was more offensive than Moss's class-free celebration.

[Bluebear]

17. Joe Buck acted like he set Lambeau field on fire

Such righteous indignation.

[mtnester]

19. Did Joe Buck make the ESPN radio "Shut Up Already" moment?

anyone?

[Berserker]

29. Thank You

Randy Moss you are my Hero you are a true radical. Instead of turning our back on * at the up coming inauguration we should all do what Randy did. Keep it up Moss it's driving the packer fans nut's.

[nickgutierrez]

18. I blame Joe Buck for this one

Ok, what Moss did was stupid, and I'm not denying that. But Joe Buck blew it waaaaaaaay out of proportion with his response. It was just a silly touchdown dance, and certainly no more absurd than a whole lot of what goes on in NFL endzones on a week-by-week basis.

[mediaman007]

27. It was the "Janet Jackson" response...

I bet that all of Fox's announcers have been trained to show indignation if anything remotely resembles the Super Bowl halftime.

I hope that Fox gets fined for showing it on television. Lets all call and file complaints.

[0007]

73. FAUX has such high morals and follows the action of junior

and his Jays'us crowd. Would that be a gas if Michael Powell levied a fine on FAUX that out did the Janet tit thingie?

[complain jane]

20. Oh my friggen God. If that guy gets fined, I've seen everything.

IT WAS A PANTOMIME. PANTS STAYED ON. THERE WAS NO HEINY SHOWN.

[underpants]

22. Forget THAT did you see that bling rock in Culpepper's ear?!?!?

It's like THEY are just flaunting it.

[FredScuttle]

34. and the hair!

don't forget the hair! They all looked so wild and, uh....primitive!

[DrWeird]

45. The only reason Culpepper's in the NFL is because he's black.

Rush Limbaugh told me so.

This is the greatest injustice in sports since Jesse Owens won the 1936 summer olympics.

[underpants]

64. Right I remember before he came out of Central Florida

all the experts said that he should be moved to tight end.

Seriously there was much speculation about how Culpepper could NEVER play QB in the NFL shouldn't even consider it no way. :eyes:

Funny I heard the same things about Steve McNair when he came out of Alcorn State after scoring almost every other time he touched the ball-no way should definitely move to TE maybe LB.

[Baclava]

35. He wiped his "ass" on the Packer logo on the goalpost

Some Packers fans might object...but, they don't really count anyway...they're too busy hating Favre right now.

Randy is an enigma. He won't be controlled by anyone. The only way he's going change is when people STOP talking about him, or they stop paying him his $100M.

Fact is, whether he is an ass or not....He totally smoked Al Harris not once, but twice in the game...on a bad leg.

[Wisc Badger]

31. I'm a Packer fan

and I hope the fine is huge (7 figures or more) and I hope for payback next year!

[RetroLounge]

114. Bitter, party of one.

Do I smell sour grapes?

Yup, typical GB puker hysterical over-response.

RL

[Carvillesque]

32. Moss mooning

Pro football is diminished by Moss' mock-mooning. It might have been funny once, but he's not in high school anymore. He does precious little to elevate the game. Moss has little regard for the sport and the fans that enrich him. Without the game Moss is a has-been. Without Moss, pro football might well be better off. Randy Moss is a troubled young man. I hope, for the sake of football fans and especially Minnesota fans, that Randy Moss seeks the help he needs to finish growing up.

[wicket]

33. Welcome to DU!!!

:hi:

[Berserker]

41. favre should have been called

for unsportsmanlike conduct and kicked out of the game for attacking a Vikings player but you didn't see that called. packer fans like to moon the bus of the opposing team as it leaves the game now that's CLASS. The packer fans got what they deserve. Long live Moss the greatest receiver of all time! Go Vikings

[DrWeird]

42. Pro football is diminished by fans like you.

"Moss is a troubled young man."

There's the pot calling the kettle black.

[Berserker]

50. you must mean the packer fans Right?

[DrWeird]

51. If they're upset of the endzone pantomine...

yup.

[frylock]

48. ohhhhhh puhl-eeeze..

professional football was diminished long ago, when the powers that be decided that they needed to recruit a younger audience by showing bullshit battle-of-the-bands and music videos at halftime rather than showing highlights or talking about what people tuned in to see; football.

How many times has Moss seen the GB fans moon the team bus in his young career? That's all that was; a little mocking of the fans and their tradition. Was it stupid? Yep, probably. Certainly not as fresh as TO's TD celebrations. Was it DISGUSTING, as Joe Fuck described it. No, it really wasn't. Listening to that fool, you would have thought that Randy had whipped his crank out. :eyes:

[fleabert]

94. LOL, my reaction too, he's gettng the same adjectives as someone who

showed an actual body part! (I thought the reaction to Janet was over the top too, so this is out of control IMO.)

[FredScuttle]

53. Thank you, arbiter of all things funny in the NFL

I guess Moss will have elevate his game to meet your exacting standards as to what is funny in a TD celebration.

Get Bruce!

[jayfish]

55. I Hate To Do This...

on your first post, but it's just nonsense. How is the NFL diminished? What is this elevate the game crap? It's a G-A-M-E and one that pays it's participants exorbitant sums of money (and rightfully so)to P-L-A-Y it. Who cares if he likes the sport or it's fans? He is a phenom, a game-breaker, he is the go-to-guy, he is the whip and that is what counts. Your comment about Moss as a has-been without the NFL sums up about 90% of the league. I think the people who need to finish growing up are the ones who blow antics like this out of perspective. Where is the disdain for Eric Barton? He committed a much more egregious offense that nearly cost his team the game. Where is his fine? He probably won't receive one because it's just too damn easy to pile-on Randy Moss. Oh and I am a Lion fan so I have no love for Randy.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

Jay

[Krupskaya]

57. What Jayfish said.

As well as Welcome. :)

[HuckleB]

90. A bit over the top, but all quite true.

Moss is stuck in arrested development. Alas, because he's got talent on the field and can make the highlight reel most weeks, he is forgiven by those who don't want to care about character unless it suits them to do so.

[Krupskaya]

40. Mooning = bad. F*cking the ball = good.

Someone, help me out -- who was it, in the same game in the first half, who made sexual motions over the ball while it was on the ground? I can't remember if it was a Packer or a Viking, but it was quite a bit grosser than what Moss did.

[KansDem]

44. That's entertainment!

The NFL isn't exactly rife with class acts...

Pros and Cons : The Criminals Who Play in the NFL
by Don Yaeger, Jeff Benedict

(on a similar note: Out of Bounds : Inside the NBA's Culture of Rape, Violence, and Crime by Jeff Benedict)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-7220399-7252768


But I suppose this is better than the "Feces in the Face is Fun" philosophy of MTV:

MTV apologizes after teens sue

SANTA MONICA (AP) -- MTV apologized Thursday to two 14-year-old girls who said they were splattered with feces when an act defecated on stage during a taping of the music channel's "Dude, This Sucks" show.

"This is a terrible incident. It was unintended and we regret that it happened," Brian Graden, the cable channel's president for programming, said in a statement.

He added that the episode would never be aired and that he had taken steps to see that such an event never happens again.

"We are sorry if these women were hurt. It is certainly never our intention to hurt anyone," he said.
(more)

[Name removed]

46. Deleted message

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[Berserker]

54. Link Please!

[WildClarySage]

I stand corrected. My memory isn't what it apparently used to be

(before I popped a vicodin this afternoon) but I could have sworn I remembered a story about his being charged with DV in Huntington. I apologise to Moss and his fans.

[LTR]

126. Total lie

Unless you have a link to back it up.

I don't believe he's married, but he has been with the same girl since college, last I heard. And, to piss off the KKK gang out there -- she's white.

[kispoko]

146. about the domestic violence thing

here are the facts about that incident, which i got from the girl's father, whose home it happened at (st. albans, not huntington).....


apparently randy had done something to upset his girlfriend (whom he's been with since high school), and, she about totally went off on him. who knows, perhaps he had it coming.....

they were more or less screaming at each other, and randy pushed her off of him. that was the extent of his end of the "abuse."

well, during all of this, a young neighbor girl had overreacted (remember, moss' girlfriend's father's word, not mine), and called the police. so, the police showed up, and arrested *both* of them.

as i understand it, whenever such a call is made on domestic violence, and the police show up, the 'offenders' must be arrested, regardless. this is what happened, and why the charges were dropped.



like everything else, some bit of nothing was turned into whatever someone's imagination wanted it to be, and randy moss all of a sudden beat the shit out of his wife.....

the funny part is, these people making up these lies are the real pieces of shit, but their moral uprightness and indignation won't allow them to see that.

[petron]

58. You are kidding me right?!?!

Moss is married?

[Arger68]

61. Do you have a link for the Moss beating his wife story?

I don't even think he's married.

[tishaLA]

63. Really? I know he had some vehicle "issues"....

but he beat the living shit out of his wife? I'm looking for that story now.

[petron]

75. keep looking...

...you won't find anything. He's not even married and he never beat an "alleged" wife.

He did have a assault charge brought against him when he was in high school but that was an altercation with another student not a "wife".

[trotsky]

67. You can get in trouble making up lies about people.

Moss never "beat the living shit out of his wife." That's why there's no outrage over it - IT NEVER HAPPENED.

[Tempest]

71. Moss ISN'T EVEN MARRIED!

And he has never been arrested for domestic abuse.

A couple of traffic violations and a marijuana possession charge, but that's it.

[0007]

78. ...are you suggesting that Randy should be flogged or maybe

hung to an oak tree? I guess that why professional wrestling can excite the lame!

[underpants]

79. HEY! A white kid called him the "n" word and he beat the guy up

http://www.huntingtonquarterly.com/Issue29/heisman.html

Two charges of simple assault he never beat up his wife or the mother of their child.

[underpants]

81. He kicked white kid who was on the ground

http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Moss_Randy.html

[DrWeird]

107. In highschool.

nt

[0007]

60. Salon.com had this to say

"Cris Collinsworth: Oh, Al Harris playing off, bit up on the route, and Randy Moss, without even really being able to run, as he shoots the moon to the fans here in Green Bay --

Joe Buck: That is a disgusting act by Randy Moss, and it's unfortunate that we had that on our air live. That is disgusting by Randy Moss.

Troy Aikman: Well, let's get back to the play. Randy Moss, I don't even think that was called in the huddle ...

Nice job by Aikman. By the time Fox went to commercial, Buck had downgraded Moss' act from "disgusting" to "classless." Fox refused to show a replay of the pretend mooning, and there was further tut-tutting after the game by the studio crew, James Brown, Howie Long, Jimmy Johnson and Terry Bradshaw. Long looked like he might cry. Fox did replay the mooning on the postgame show. ESPN took the high road -- Ha-ha! That was a funny phrase to type -- and refused to air it."

salon.com

[SheepyMcSheepster]

69. it amazing to me that people find this so offensive

i find the beer commercials more offensive, i thought this was funny.

what professional athletes do anyway. infact, the fake "mooning" was the only part of the game i saw anyway thanks to a news show i that was on the TV when i was passing.

[EarlG]

72. You know what I thought was worse

At the start of the game they had a moment of silence for Reggie White. Regardless of whatever opinions you may have about Reggie White, it was a respectful moment of silence to mourn a dead colleague.

Fox, however, decided that it would be a good time to squeeze a few more advertising dollars out of their sponsors and cut to commercial as soon as the moment of silence began.

Need some beer? Buy this car! Can't get an erection?

Tasteful, it was not.

As for Randy Moss... who cares. Fake mooning the crowd? My goodness!

Perhaps the NFL should mandate the Icky Shuffle for all future touchdown celebrations.

[underpants]

74. Wow did they really?

I missed the lead up to the game so I didn't see that.

Fake mooning geesh.

[petron]

80. My sentiments exactly

As a Vikes fan, even I was kinda shocked and saddened that they cut away from the Reggie moment. Phuck Faux!

Go Vikes!

[LTR]

129. Very good point, Earl

FOX will air penile enlargement ads all day long, schedule shows about fat, obnoxious fiances, midget dating, finding the guy who knocked up some girl's mom, and all kinds of other mentally offensive bullshit. But Joe Buck gets all hot about Moss 'pretending' to moon the crowd? Hello???

[kick-ass-bob]

152. I caught that too.

I thought, 'wow, that was the shortest moment of silence in history'.

Punk-ass move.

[HuckleB]

82. A fine is ridiculous.

It was stupid and juvenile, and the whole world got to see that Moss is stuck in eternal arrested development, just like our current Bushy in Chief. That doesn't mean that it warrants a fine.

It warrants every fan above the age of 16 or so, refraining from purchasing anything with Moss' number or name on it. But we all know that won't happen either.

[Glenda]

84. It was sort of like a mime doing it

... kind of graceful actually.

Who really cares - football is entertainment, right?

Of course, I'm a die-hard vikings fan, so I might be biased.

[saltpoint]

87. A quotation attributed to former Cowboys coach Tom Landry --

-- went something like:

"Now boys, if you git into the endzone, fur Christ's sakes, act like you been there before."

Pro athletes recently aren't doing themselves much of a favor by fake moonings and charging into the stands to beat up the customers.

[HuckleB]

92. Shoot. They're celebrating after every play.

On one side or the other. It doesn't even mean anything anymore.

[saltpoint]

105. You're right.

The last pro athlete I really liked and respected was the Reds' centerfielder Cesar Geronimo.

He had a mysterious quiet energy, all of it given to the game and none to his ego.

I sure miss him.

[Wright Patman]

136. Reverend T.L.,

as Don Meredith called Landry, would not have said "fur Christ's sake." But I know you prefaced your quote with "something like that."

I've heard this quote before, but it was attributed to former Texas Coach Darrell Royal.

I love the celebrations after big plays. Football is entertainment. It is not a church service.

[MrSlayer]

91. Typical stupid overreaction to a bit of fun.

Do you know that when you lose in Green Bay the fans moon your bus as you are leaving the parking lot? Put this all into perspective now. He was simply giving them back a little of what they give to him and he didn't really pull his pants down for Christ's sake. It was funny, I'm so sick of the sanctimonious puritanism of these talking heads.

[fleabert]

93. so stupid.

just another example of uptight moralism, pseudo moralism at that.

give me a break. I was accidentally watching the local Sinclair channel (flipping around and left the room for bit before I realized what channel it was on) the local news came on and the newscasters put this bit on as it was news, and their reaction had me incredulous, until I realized what channel it was. 'Typical!' was my reaction. And I promptly put it on a different channel, where it wasn't even discussed.

They used language like, 'unbelievable behavior' and 'shocking actions'. OMG, you would think -if you just listened to the story- that he had whipped it out or something. whatever.

people need to loosen up. He PRETENDED to moon the fans. they certainly don't pretend to give players the finger or worse things I have seen at sporting events.

[Groggy]

96. Oh get real!

For everyone that says what Moss did was funny you would be singing a totally different tune if it happened on YOUR HOME FIELD. As a Packer fan I admit I found it insulting. Can you imagine the reaction of Viking fans if Brett Favre did something like that to them in THEIR dome? It all comes down to sportsmanship. IF a few Packers fans really do in fact moon the opposing team after the games then I think that's stupid. I don't condone bad behavior by ANY fans-even PACKER fans. That includes trash talk, fans who jeer players, throw things and stuff like that are acting like idiots in my opinion. And EVERY team in the NFL has them! In my opinion it doesn't make sense to trash fans and players of another team simply because your team won or lost...its childish and stupid. Frankly, I could care less what happens to Randy Moss...he is what he is. He's a great player, but I personally don't respect him much. I don't think a fine is necessary though. Whatever happened to winning and losing gracefully and simply the love of the game? Sheesh!

Hey and by the way, I even felt sorry for the Vikings fans when we beat them on Christmas eve! I thought it would be better if teams didn't play on Christmas eve because someone has to lose and it could ruin their day! Oh well, go ahead and flame me if you want!

[Berserker]

97. A little you may or may not know

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1963829

“ It's not the kind of thing you want to see on national TV, but I understand what it was all about. ... The fans in Green Bay have a tradition in the parking lot after the game where they moon the visiting team's bus. ”
— Colts coach Tony Dungy

[HuckleB]

99. Yeah, all of 'em, too. Every last one stands out there, butts hanging out!

What a sight to see!

:eyes:

A few drunks do it once in a while, just like in every other city and every other sport. Don't try to justify Moss' juvenile stupidity by comparing him to drunken idiot fans who need ten years to make as much as he does in one game.

[HuckleB]

98. There's no reason to be offended.

I mean he didn't do anything that's worth being offended about. He acted like a 12-year-old little child, like he always does. So what? That's who Moss is. He hasn't developed as a human in any positive way since he entered the NFL. What else can one expect?

Yeah, it's pretty bizarre to see all these folks try to convince themselves and each other that such a juvenile act is actually funny, but, no, it's not offensive. It's just stupid. It doesn't matter what field it occurred on. An idiot cannot offend, because he doesn't really know what he's doing. And Moss is clearly an idiot.

[Groggy]

100. well maybe not so much offended....

as pissed off. I mean we were losing pretty bad,,,we all knew that and it was just kind of an in your face gesture. Kind of rubbing it in. I was surprised he wasn't flagged for taunting..but I really don't think its necessary for him to be fined--I mean it wasn't like he actually mooned the crowd after all. He just does it for publicity and he sure gets it!

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[HuckleB]

106. Wow! He can memorize a few things.

300 plays, 40 players. A whole year to do it. That's not exactly going to get him into med school now is it?

Sorry, but you are confusing memorization with having the ability to truly process the world and move within it in all of its complexity. Moss has clearly shown no ability to do that whatsoever.

Moss is a dumbass, indeed.

[RetroLounge]

115. and you are a star NFL reveiver?

or just a disgruntled packer fan who saw his team CHOKE?

Sour grapes, or sour Cheese, I mean...

RL

[HuckleB]

127. Do you have an argument to offer?

If not, thanks for the meaningless cliches.

I certainly hope you'll never offer criticism of any profession you've never performed exactly on these boards. That would be, uh, what would you call it? Oh, yeah, hypocrisy.

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[Berserker]

108. yes it's funny

and bizarre to see all these folks try to convince themselves that what Moss did was sooooo bad and sooooo juvenile. He pretended to moon the fans big frickin deal. And some stoop so low as to personally attack Moss. Stop worrying about such a little thing. Worry about Iraq it's a much bigger thing. Some people act like he killed someone.

[HuckleB]

111. Aww.

You want me to worry about Iraq? Hmm. And what have you been doing all day? Hey, look over there. It's a big bug!

Yeah, big friggin' deal, indeed. It never was a big deal, though it's clear that those who love Moss' juvenile dandiness thought it was a huge deal, and have shown that all day long. Please look in the mirror before offering more blah blah blah.

It was funny. When I was 12. I laughed. I learned. I grew. And now it takes more than farts to make me laugh. I suppose you find that a terrible thing. Oh well. No, it's not funny anymore. It's just shows how incredibly lacking in creativity the guy is in every aspect of his life off of the football field and even on it when play has stopped.

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[HuckleB]

148. Thanks for the laughs.

:evilgrin:

[CornField]

102. Then the Packers have a hell of a lot of fines to pay!

At each Pack home game, it is tradition for fans to send the opposing team home by mooning their bus.

If Moss is fined for his pseudo-moon, I hope to hell the Packers are fined for the truly rude behavior of their fans.

[HuckleB]

104. How many of those games have you been to?

Not many, I suspect. You're just pushing a Tony Dungy quote into the world of the expanded hoax. Sure, a few drunken fans have mooned the bus of the opposing team after the Packers lost a few times. Umm. Guess what? That's happened in other NFL cities, too.

Oh, and those fans don't work for the NFL. They pay to keep it in business. How are you going to fine them?

And, no, there shouldn't be a fine for stupid, juvenile behavior like this. He fined himself long ago.

[CornField]

109. In the past few years, only two per season

My preference is to visit Arrowhead in Kansas City. In any event, perhaps I just happened to only attend the games when the juvenile Packer fans were present. :eyes:

Teams are penalized and/or fined for the conduct of their fans all the time... although I will admit that it typically is limited to the the goings on within the stadium during the game.

[HuckleB]

113. Exactly.

And they're not fined for fans mooning anyone. It's for actual danger presented to others. The league does fine its own employees, however, for much lesser things. Thus, no one can compare Moss to a bunch of fans. They are held to different standards, because one is an employee and one is a customer. That said, as I noted already, a fine would be ridiculous in this case.

[RetroLounge]

116. Whiney little pissy packer fans have been crying

here all day about this.

Oh, boo fucking hoo...

Losers.

RL

[HuckleB]

128. Actually...

Most of the real whining has been by the goofball Moss supporters. As for the criticism, very little of it has come from Packer fans.

Hmm. Making it up as you go along, are you?

What does that make you?

Reality do suck sometimes, don't it?

:) :) :) :)

:evilgrin:

[FlemingsGhost]

117. It's pretty sad to see this as one of the biggest topics of discussion.

Certainly not surprising, but sad nonetheless.

[Revolucionario83]

118. WHO CARES?!!

Jesus Freakin Christ, people get mad over stupid shit. :shrug: :eyes:

[Rican1]

121. I love it !

When Packer fans get pissed. As a Bear fan, it's all I have to look forward when watching football.

[TankLV]

125. Some of us really have their panties in a knot over this!

Lighten up people!

God, this is so silly!

Just listen to some of you.

You'd think the guy screwed a littly boy on stage like repukes do!

[HuckleB]

131. Huh?

Take another look at the posts. It's actually those who can't allow a little criticism of the poor, downtrodden Moss who really could use a bit of lightening up.

It's bizarre, the perceptions being offered here. The contradictions are rather stark.

[LTR]

130. Moss got it all wrong

He was supposed to actually defecate on the field.

Just like Packer running back Najeh Davenport did in a laundry basket.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/713096/posts

Packers fullback Davenport arrested

Player accused of breaking into dorm, defecating in closet

ASSOCIATED PRESS

MIAMI, July 8 — Green Bay Packers fullback Najeh Davenport was arrested Monday, accused of breaking into a university dormitory and defecating in a woman’s closet.

DAVENPORT, 23, SURRENDERED TO POLICE Monday and was charged with a second-degree felony count of burglary and a misdemeanor count of criminal mischief, said Richard Master, a Miami Shores police spokesman.

The former University of Miami player was wanted on a warrant issued in April. He was released Monday from a Miami-Dade County jail after posting a $6,500 bond. If convicted, he could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison. “This whole thing is a misunderstanding. Najeh had nothing to do with the situation,” said Richard Sharpstein, Davenport’s attorney. According to police, Davenport crept into a dorm room at Barry University around 6 a.m. on April 1. A woman sleeping in the room, Mary McCarthy, told police she was startled by a strange sound and saw Davenport squatting in her closet. Davenport then allegedly defecated in a laundry basket, McCarthy told detectives. McCarthy told police she didn’t know Davenport. Campus security identified the football player from a picture in the University of Miami yearbook.

Sharpstein said he was confident authorities would drop the charges against his client. The Packers released a statement Monday saying team officials have spoken to Davenport about the allegations. “It would be inappropriate for us to comment further on this matter, however, until the legal system has run its course,” the statement read. The 6-foot-2, 248-pound Davenport was selected by the Packers in the fourth round of the NFL draft.


(sorry for the freeper link)

[slutticus]

133. Get over it people. Matcom moons us all the time with his yellow smiley.

I don't see anyone complaining about that....

[bling bling]

135. St. Louis Rams used to Bob N Weave after a touchdown.

edited for fine.

It was silly but fun and totally harmless. And it really was so exciting to get touchdowns and see them celebrate because the Rams sucked for so long.

It was the Minnesota Vikings coach that complained to the NFL and the NFL made the Rams stop the Bob N Weave. If they did it they were fined $2,500.00 each.

Also, Joe Buck's from St. Louis. Don't know if that had anything to do with his reaction, tho.

[American Tragedy]

139. Bitch, bitch, bitch

The NFL should give him a medal, for the free publicity he's generated via the news media. This may have even made pro football marginally interesting.

[wicket]

141. kick

:kick:

[MadisonProgressive]

142. I'm a life-long Packer fan

but i think people are getting carried away. It didn't bother me, I thought it was funny (if you're a Viking fan anyway). It's entertainment by an entertaining moran - nothing more or less.

[empathy]

144. Did the people there mind?

I havent heard anyone who was there complaining.

He was giving a very direct response to what fans all over the country do. Good for him. The Vikings finally play a good game and he and the rest of the team were goin gto enjoy every second of it.

And the Packer fans - the people at Lambeau, are far and away among the best fans in the NFL, adn that's exactly why they aren't upset about this.

One other thought -- can you IMAGINE what they would say in the UK, or Europe about this public outcry at a mock mooning? Are you kidding? We look like idiots.

[Bark Bark Bark]

145. This Is Unworthy Of Attention

I've seen all kinds of genuinely despicable acts in sports--ranging from steroid abuse to a football player's "victory dance" simulating sexual domination of a downed opponent; this is nothing. Moss FAKED doing something Bart Simpson does regularly on Sunday evenings.

Media-manufactured distractions. Don't fall for 'em.

[Penndems]

149. You've gotta be shitting me

Adolescent? Yeah. Unprofessional? Yep. Worth getting slapped with a fine? Nope.

At the risk of quoting Mike Wilbon again, I agreed with most everything he said in his column yesterday (with the exception of how great Joe Buck is):
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Moss, NFL Show An Equally Bad Side

By Michael Wilbon
Tuesday, January 11, 2005; Page D01

I don't need to see Randy Moss pantomiming a mooning. I don't need to see Moss rubbing his butt on the goal post to stick it to the Green Bay fans after a touchdown. It's moronic.

<snip>

Having said that, I'm certainly not outraged at Moss's mock mooning in Green Bay. What he did seven days earlier at FedEx Field was worse. Yes, walking off the field while your teammates line up to try to pull off a miracle onside kick was far more disgraceful because Moss turned his back on his team and dishonored the game. At least the mock mooning came after he scored a touchdown.

But this righteous outpouring is sickening in its hypocrisy. The NFL would have you believe it's running something as pure as a Girl Scout bake sale on Sunday afternoons, when in fact the NFL has clothing-challenged cheerleaders giving you an eye-full of rump every second of every game.

<snip>

But for the second time this season the NFL (and its network broadcast partners) just skate on the issue of what's appropriate and what isn't during a football game. It's okay to throw "The Twins" up in your grille at the end of every single game or the end of some ESPN highlight package, but Randy Moss is the devil because he showed his cloth-covered hiney to some fans in one end zone?

More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64127-2005Jan10.html