Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Derek Lowe to the Dodgers?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Sports Donate to DU
 
MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:46 AM
Original message
Derek Lowe to the Dodgers?
I heard this morning that LA is going to pay him gazillions of dollars to move there. Something like $35M! Good luck to the Dodgers! Personally, I don't think he's worth that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:51 AM
Response to Original message
1. That's OK. The Dodgers deserve it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:34 AM
Response to Original message
2. He showed some backbone in the playoffs
but up to that point he had literally been the WORST starter in MLB over the course of the season. By just about every statistical measure you can come up with. I wish him luck and I hope he has success in the future and if I ever see him in person, I'll buy him dinner or a beer or whatever because his playoff performance was a big part making THE BOSTON RED SOX WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS! (I still get giddy just thinking about it :)

This said, $35 million is a major overpayment for a guy who when you come right down to it is completely unreliable. his track record has been decent year, good year, bad year, GREAT year, TERRIBLE year, great playoffs. I'll be sad to see a part of the greatest Red Sox team in history go, but they are defeinitely doing the right thing in letting him go.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:03 AM
Response to Original message
3. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
They can't take the cutest Red Sox! :cry:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. I agree! First Nomar, now Derek. If they ever trade Johnny Damon...
... all my favorites will be gone! :cry: :cry: :cry:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. I'll die I tells ya, DIE, if Johnny Jesus goes!
I think he's an interesting character, and very NOT full of himself!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:24 AM
Response to Original message
4. He will do well in the NL
I was hoping they'd send him somewhere where the fans aren't rabid about baseball, because he is not a pressure guy in the regular season. This might fit the bill. A sinkerball pitcher in the smallball league, he will win 20 games...

...if he stays sober. It is widely whispered among the bartenders in Boston that Derek has developed a bad bottle problem. He was either drunk or hung over for a bunch of his starts last year, a side-effect from his inability to handle pressure. What you saw in the playoffs was Sober Derek. May he maintain that sobriety, so that he can become the great pitcher that is inside him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Yeah, then he better go--now that they have Wells, can't have too
many heavy drinkers on the team!

Are you sure it was sober Lowe we saw? Maybe he does better when he's drinking, kind of like Wells?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Well,
he was Drunk Lowe throughout the season, and he was terrible. So...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Maybe he turned a corner with his drinking...
...and if he did, then I hope the Sox keep him!

Don't think they will, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. No, he's gone
And leaving is as much his decision as it was theirs. He was gone the moment they benched him for the playoffs. One of the other reasons he did so well is because he was pissed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Whatever the reason (being pissed off or sober)...
the Derek Lowe that pitched in the series was a different character than had shown up on the hill all season.

I've always seen that his biggest problem is his confidence and poise on the mound. Most of his teammates consider him the best all-around athlete on the team. The physical aspect of pitching has never been his problem.

Watching him, you can see when he starts to lose the concentration/focus that a winning pitcher needs. He communicates it with his elbow-flailing walks around the mound and his general demeanor. The opposing hitters see it too.

I hope he doesn't crawl into a bottle to find the composure he needs. He has the potential to have a really solid career, maybe he'll find it in LA.

But----$35M?? If that's true, then better LA than Boston, because there's no way Lowe is worth $35m.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. Dodger Stadium is a major pitcher's park.

seriously. check out the park effects.

. . . and LA has a long tradition for other-than-sober players.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:22 PM
Response to Original message
10. I've heard everything from 4yrs @ $32 million to $36 million

I'm not wild about the fourth year; he's 31. this doesn't sound like our GM -- he's a disciple of billy beane -- this sounds like our new owner.

AND they're apparently still trying to dump shawn green and his $16 million dollar salary for this coming year.

there was a rumor in LA that the dodgers were working on a trade for
AJ burnett . . . now THAT would have been interesting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:48 PM
Response to Original message
13. everything that I've read indicates that the Lowe deal is . . .
dependent on unloading Green to the Dbacks.

McCourt must be looking for loose change under the couch cushions right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
15. Way too much money
DePodesta has had a terrible offseason.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Oct 25th 2014, 10:44 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Sports Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC