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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:23 AM
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Liberal Atheists act more like Christians than the "Christian" right!
Never has it been more urgent to get the message out that, far from being "Godless", LIBERALS are much more like Christ than are Greedy Old Party Republicans. Please forward this message to everybody in your address book and ask your friends to do the same.

On 6/6/6 superheated right wing hatemonger Ann Coulter published her latest book, "GODLESS, The Church of Liberalism", which begins with the lie, "Liberals love to boast that they are not 'religious'." and the book goes down-hill from there. The book has since become a best seller, not because it is good, but because it is the religio-polical right at its outrageous worst. Conservatives LOVE it, and thereby prove how little interest they have in the truth.

Now that Coulter has put the national spotlight on the issue of which ideology is more compatible with God and with Jesus Christ, I urge you to point as many people as possible to the web sites which do the very best job in the country in arguing that even agnostic and atheistic LIBERALS are more in tune with the teaching and example of Jesus Christ than the Republican Religious Right, who are the kind of religious zealots who were the very bane of his existence. A Republican atheist actually wrote me once to say: " I completely agree with the entire theme of your Web site and posts! Ayn Rand had it right: Christ was a socialist. I hope to "God" (that) conservative Christians never figure that out. He knew that our message wouldn't affect the party hacks; but he was afraid of what it would do to the mass of clue-less people in the pews if even doubt was sewn in their minds about who was REALLY "Godless"

I urge you to see what this Republican saw, but to work to insure that his "prayer" is NOT answered. Please don't delay. Now is the time to promote, promote, and promote some more:
http://www.JesusNoRepublican.Org/ which shows why Jesus would abhor today's Republican Party, &
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/ which shows why Liberal Democrats are more like Christ than are Conservative Republicans!

Rev. Ray Dubuque, founder of "Liberals Like Christ".
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:30 AM
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1. Christian morality
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is the great moral principle that even secular humanists can agree to. Anyone who thinks that's a better description of rightwing "Christians" than it is of liberals is not qualified to discuss Christianity.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:21 PM
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7. Really?
What about that whole "Everyone who doesn't accept me will burn for eternity" thing? What about that "No one gets to God except for me" spiel?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:31 PM
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8. still works-
the second half of your statement.

If a bridge is built over an otherwise impassable chasm, people who travel along the road get to the other side- They don't have to necessiarialy worship the bridge- Actually, some people get lost in doing just that, they stop moving forward, and spend their lives admiring the structure of the bridge, or trying to keep people 'they' deem not worthy of travelling from crossing --- but that doesn't stop the bridge from supporting and carrying who ever travels over it to a new place....

just my very liberal 2 cents.

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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:25 PM
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10. My next 2 cents
Let me start by saying that this is just my tongue-untied opinion, and that I'm not insulting anyone's faith. At most, I'm asserting that the basis for the traditional form of that religion is misguided, not that any faith is misguided itself.

Your metaphor is all well and good, but if you read the Bible and Jesus' supposed words, you find a lot of stuff that's contrary to that. He is not saying that he gives people passage to heaven regardless, he is saying that he and only he is the truth (he says this on more than one occassion IIRC) and that people must accept him or "else". He implies that he is the only way, and (again, IMO) he also implies that anyone who doesn't worship him won't reach god (and subsequently reach eternal damnation). Lastly, there are many, many, many working bridges, and it seems to me that accepting the Bible (without your liberal interpretation) leads a person into that very chasm of ignorance.

Again, this is just a criticism of the seemingly most common interpretation of the Bible and how Christianity has been for awhile. This isn't to say that someone who disagrees cannot be Christian. I hope I got my point across.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:13 AM
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11. Really
I'm not sure what you thought I'm getting at, but all I'm saying is that rightwing "Christians" don't seem to care much for the Golden Rule, which I take as the fundamental principle of Christian morality -- one shared with all other major religions and also secular humanism. Salvation is a different issue.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:32 AM
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2. I think that the Religious RIght
have bypassed what Jesus was supposed to be about in favor of focusing on the End Times and Judgment - and THEY THINK THEY GET TO BE THE ONES TO PASS JUDGMENT. So they do.

They also seem to think that violence is now justified and anything that Jesus ever said is now irrelevant. That's all I can figure.
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:37 AM
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3. Yes, they think they can bring on the end times! Which of course
is ridiculous. When Christ himself told his disciples ONLY the Father knows when Jesus will return, these idiots have the gall to think they can "bring it on"! It's just beyond me. My sisters and I have a saying for all the "right" do, you can't make sense out of crazy!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:45 AM
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4. I agree with your central point, but
because the definition of "Christian" is so nebulous and disagreed upon, I'd ultimately have to disagree on a technicality.
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:17 PM
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9. I probably should have their actions regarding social justice are more
in accordance with Christ's teachings. Because Christ's overall message was love and take care of each other. That to me is the liberal message as well.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 12:17 PM
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5. Christ was the ultimate liberal.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 12:27 PM
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6. If Jesus were on earth today most of the Christian extremists would reject
him as a do gooder and left wing pacifist....IMO.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:52 AM
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12. Liberal atheist here
to say that I never act like a Christian, and I happen to think godlessness is cool so it doesn't bother me that Ann Coulter or anyone else says liberals are godless, and I don't much like the use of an untrue statement about atheists to poke the wingnuts.

My question to you is, are you trying to start or just reproducing a chain email?
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:15 PM
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13. Eeek! Is Ann Coulter's book a best seller??!! nt
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