Why do Christians quote the Bible as proof that their religion is valid"

[heidler1]

When the point of the discussion is the validity of anything in print or man made or imagined proving a damn thing about any religion. If a man sees a ghost, demon, flying saucer, gremlin, fairy or devil the prudent view for others would be that the man has mental or eye sight trouble.

[zalinda]

1. Because they can't think for themselves. n/t

[PatrioticLeftie]

2. It's not Christians, it's...

CINOs (Christians In Name Only), they tout the teachings of Jesus and yet oddly do not follow them.

[LiberalFighter]

18. AND are they using the teachings of Jesus or Paul?

[patrice]

3. Everything many "christians" do is circular, especially the way they USE

the Bible. Everything they talk about implies itself to the exclusion of others. They are breaking the First Commandment by worshipping Themselves.

[niallmac]

4. Top seller with lots of positive comments on Amazon.com

I know how to shoot down a doubting Thomas! :P

[murray hill farm]

5. I know..that is so wierd!

I have always thought this..it is like using the word u are trying to define, by using the word u are defining.

[Dervill Crow]

37. Sorta like Bush's definition of "sovereignty." n/t

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[knowbody0]

6. Revelations 22

v.18: I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. V.19: and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

seeing as there are more translations of the "book" than you can count, I always ask them about this last chapter. Im a true Jezzebel though, so what do I really know?

Peace

[heidler1]

9. They depend on the power of fear. Pat R. is not the first.

[LiberalFighter]

19. Isn't fear the main factor in most religions?

[autorank]

11. knobody0, you're scaring me!!! How about Austin 3:16? n/t

[Ready4Change]

13. Austin 3:16, paragraph 2, section 2

Quothe he: "She's a man, baby, yah!"

Or do I have the wrong edition of the book?

[Ready4Change]

14. The bible speaks to their hearts, is what they tell me.

My (inner) response is: Funny, lasagna talks to my heart, but I don't quote it.

But then, I've got a lot of unvocalized inner dialog.

[autorank]

21. You're right, also "Hey Mr. McMahhon, bite me!"

:rofl:

[knowbody0]

20. stone cold, baby

[More Than A Feeling]

28. "I just kicked your ass"?

That's pretty scary too!:P

[undergroundpanther]

7. because the bible is the only thing

they can point to that looks valid to them and can justfy any atrocity and any victim.

[kevinbgoode]

8. Because they've watched too many episodes

of "Charmed," and think they are casting spells.

[autorank]

10. Circular reasoning...it works every time.

"I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam cause I'm Popeye the Sailor Man"...

A Man for All Seasons

[MADem]

12. Yeah, that book that does not say "By Jesus H. Christ"

Who the hell knows just WHO wrote the thing? And which version?

You could probably find a line in any big book, from WAR AND PEACE to the Harry Potter series, to back up any assertion you want to make!

[silverweb]

15. An excellent question.

It highlights the reason why fundamentalists are so adamant that the Bible is the literal "word of God" and absolutely infallible. Without that basic assertion, they couldn't use it as validation for anything.

The next question to ask is, based on the premise that the Bible is the literal word of God and absolutely infallible, how can fundamentalists justify cherrypicking their quotes? In particular, how can they not follow every single admonition in their holy book equally, especially those of the Christ they claim to adore?

[Freedom_from_Chains]

17. Careful, you are trying to apply logic to the problem. n/t

[silverweb]

25. That'll always upsets them, doesn't it?

:evilgrin:

[Freedom_from_Chains]

16. Because it is all they have to point too. n/t

[Einstein99]

22. Does anybody know who said:

"I have no problem with Christianity; it's Christians I can't abide"?

[silverweb]

26. My first instinct is to say Mark Twain.

However, I can't find the quote anywhere to confirm.

Sorry.

:shrug:

[longship]

23. Because the Bible validates their religion is valid.

Just like the Koran validates Muslims.
Just like the Torah validates Judaism.
Just like the .... (you fill in the blanks).

I'm as uncomfortable with people claiming that their religious beliefs are universally validated as I am that such validatioin is somehow necessary. People come to their beliefs for a variety of reasons. I accept that and have no problems with that as long as the profession of beliefs is not supported in any way by legislative fiat.

Furthermore, people have a right to profess their beliefs. IMHO, they should not need to justify them. I profess my beliefs to be atheism. I should not have to have to defend those beliefs or my right to have them.

[WePurrsevere]

24. Well said. n/t

[PsychoDad]

30. Well said.

Very well indeed.

Peace

[More Than A Feeling]

27. It's because the aliens told me to

They also told me that if you doubt their existence, they will kidnap you and perpetrate unspeakable acts against you! Booga booga booga!

[PsychoDad]

29. If a man sees a ghost, demon, flying saucer, gremlin, fairy or devil

wouldn't another prudent view be to assume that said person DID see something, as many do? Then set out to investigate just what it was that was sighted?

I thought the dogmatic region of black/white, right/wrong was reserved for us not so rational theists ;).

Science requires open minded investigation. Otherwise it's just blind dogma to your favorite theory/view of reality. Isn't that what you would tell a creationist?

Peace.

[heidler1]

32. Hallucinations are so common that the odds are it's internal to the

person hearing or seeing whatever it is. I'm pretty sure that in Bush's case it's approved of by many religious people. I do not know of any study as to, are Religious people also prone to having hallucinations. I suspect that they would be.

[DanCa]

31. You know for the life of me I cant quote scripture.

I can quote the beattitudes and commandments but not scripture on verse. My gammy told me long ago that it was more important to treat other people with respect, follow the golden rule, and try to remember how christ lived. She also said to be worry of those who shouted the bible. "Those who have to have excess christianity on thier tongue lack it most in thier hearts," she would say.

[nemo137]

33. your gammy was a wise woman, DanCa.

I think that's my new favorite quote.

[JerseygirlCT]

34. Well, they needn't prove their belief's validity to anyone

And that's the first mistake some make. If you don't care for my beliefs, that's your business. You don't, however, get to decide whether my beliefs are valid anymore than I get to make that decision for you.

But I agree -- using a religious text to support the validity of a religion would be rather circular.

Belief doesn't need to be proven. It is by definition beyond proof -- it is faith.

And calling people who do believe in something names or suggesting they have mental or eye sight trouble is also quite pointless.

You cannot refute my belief any more than I can prove it.

[NAO]

35. Book: "The Mind of the Bible Believer"

might answer some questions.

[NMMNG]

36. Circular reasoning-standard logical error

I know the Bible is accurate because the Bible says so!