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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:26 AM
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Congresswoman: Govt Should Only Support Christianity
Rep. Vicky Hartzler of Missouri, one of the wingnuttiest of all the Republicans in Congress, was on Tony Perkins radio show last week and openly declared her preference for Christian hegemony on government endorsement. Discussing the fact that the Air Force Academy had worship spaces for multiple religions, including Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu and pagan, the two of them said:

Perkins: Do you see this as a part of a growing trend that we see that there is really kind of a marginalization of Christianity and almost a promotion of other forms of, I would have to say, fringe religions?

Hartzler: I agree, I think so. Christianity is the main religion in our country and as a policy for the Department of Defense we need to defend the practice of religion but we do not have to obligate taxpayer funds to facilitate or accommodate it or pay for it.

Perkins: Is it the governments role to try to put all religions on the same plane?

Hartzler: No, its not their role at all. Their role is to facilitate basic policy for our country and to not to try to lift up one religion over the other, they should be defending the basic rights that we have, that freedom of religion here, and certainly not facilitating or accommodating fringe religions, its crazy.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2011/12/07/congr...

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Nothing to worry about here, folks. Just a minority of vocal evangelicals that do not represent all Americans.


Oh, my bad, she DOES represent the people. She is a fucking CONGRESSPERSON!!!!
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deacon_sephiroth Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:32 AM
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1. yeah, the DoD should only use taxpayer dollars for...
holy wars, not holy places!

Oh wow, I'm sick to my stomach. Her definition of freedom of religion is staggering, the terms she throws around, the job she has... it's too much really.

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:48 AM
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2. But we all need to remember
That people who think just like her were the ones who voted her into office...so she is just saying what they believe in.

Remember it's the voters who determine whether they are represented by someone who belives in tolerance, or someone who might be the next leader of the New Inquisition!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:49 AM
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3. here`s a map of her district.....
http://hartzler.house.gov/our-district

this is a part of missouri thinking people should avoid at all costs.but if you have to, one thing you won`t run into is people and that is a good thing.
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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:55 AM
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4. "Marginal" religions, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu
With more people on the planet following those three than all the Christians combined.

But she's talking about the United States of Christian America.

From the wiki on her:
"In 2004, after she had left the Missouri General Assembly, Hartzler served as state spokeswoman for the Coalition to Protect Marriage,<4> which supported Missouri's defense of marriage amendment."

...

"She ran on a conservative platform, voicing support for tax cuts and spending cuts. She is pro-life and opposes gay rights in general."
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"Addressing a conference of college students at the Eagle Forum Collegians Summit in Washington D.C. on June 9, 2011, Hartzler said that if same-sex marriages were allowed, it would lead to paedophiles and polygamists also being allowed to marry <6>
Hartzler is an evangelical Christian and staunch opponent of gay marriage. She is also a spokesman for the Coalition to Protect Marriage in Missouri, which successfully campaigned to ban same-sex marriage in the state."

Big surprises here!!!


"Committee assignments
Committee on Agriculture
Subcommittee on General Farm Commodities and Risk Management
Subcommittee on Rural Development, Research, Biotechnology, and Foreign Agriculture
Committee on Armed Services
Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces
Subcommittee on Military Personnel
Subcommittee on Readiness
Republican Study Committee (there's a committee to study Republicans?)
Tea Party Caucus" SURPRISE!!!!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:47 AM
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5. "and to not to try to lift up one religion over the other"
Except for Christianity, of course.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 12:04 PM
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6. I begin to think we've misinterpreted the Constitution
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

I think that what this REALLY means is that "Congress shall make no law implying that an establishment of religion is worthy of respect."
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 12:40 PM
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7. Yes: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"
The key word is 'establishment'--that no religion shall become the official, or established religion. This is an important law. I really do not see any other way to interpret this script.... not that dominionists care, they just pick and choose words as they see fit.

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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 02:13 PM
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8. So, someone from the religious community, tell me...who paid for
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 02:15 PM by MarkCharles
that 3 million dollar church on federal property called the United States Air Force Academy.

I DO hope you can prove that it was all paid for and is maintained entirely not from taxpayer contributions.

I will give you taxpayer-funded police and fire protection for that edifice, just as I do for every private home and facility in the USA. But that's as far as I will go.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:41 PM
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9. Typical
We see that attitude everywhere, including here. The Constitution only forbids an official state religion. There's nothing wrong with religious displays on government property, religious slogans on our money, Christian prayers before official events, etc. After all, most Americans are Christian. Etc, etc.

Fringe minority my backside.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:05 PM
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10.  It's not good enough for them to be part of the pie
they want the whole pie....

They are religious terrorist as far as I am concerned.
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