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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:37 AM
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The Dalai Lama braves radiation threat, Interacts with victims
Phayul
By Sherab Woeser

KORIYAMA, November 6: Arriving into Koriyama city in the Japanese prefecture of Fukushima, it is hard for the naked eye to notice any striking difference from the other places that His Holiness the Dalai Lama has been visiting for the last ten days.

But a Geiger counter device, used for detecting radiation, when placed on the ground in the middle of the city just before the Dalai Lama’ s arrival, showed a reading of 2.28 microsievert/hour – a mark, dangerously bordering the radiation level considered hazardous for human life if continuously exposed for a year.

On March 11, following the magnitude 9 earthquake and tsunami, the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant, 60 kms from Koriyama, suffered major damage to its cooling system, leading to nuclear radiation leaks.

Over 200,000 people were evacuated from the Fukushima prefecture. Many never returned, while those who did, had their families separated and livelihoods destroyed.

http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=30337
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Nelson Tondreau Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:46 AM
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1. I'm speechless...
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 08:46 AM by Nelson Tondreau
I have nothing but admiration and respect for the His Holiness Dalai Lama. If there's one religious leader in the modern world we can respect, it would be the Dalai Lama.

On the other hand I wonder when the pope will show up in his bullet-proof popemobile with a radiation suit.


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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 09:58 AM
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2. I also admire him greatly
I was shocked that he, like everyone else, has detractors. I'm not talking about the Chinese government.
I know someone who is a practicing Buddhist and strict vegetarian. When she found out that the Dalai Lama occasionally eats meat on the advice of his doctor, she said he really is not a Buddhist. In her mind, a real Buddhist would rather cut off his right arm rather than eat meat.
Sigh. Sigh.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:18 AM
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6. Right after PZ Myers.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:08 AM
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3. Let's see now...
A few hours versus a whole year? I smell spin.

"But a Geiger counter device, used for detecting radiation, when placed on the ground in the middle of the city just before the Dalai Lama’ s arrival, showed a reading of 2.28 microsievert/hour – a mark, dangerously bordering the radiation level considered hazardous for human life if continuously exposed for a year."

The soil is radioactive, yes. The air above it is not. Applying the square of the distance rule, how long would you have to stay to get a "considered hazardous for human life" exposer if the Geiger counter were placed a more realistic one, two or three feet above the ground?

The Dalai Lama needs to wear decent shoes. That is all the protection he needs for his short visit. There is noting 'brave' about it.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:16 AM
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5. Oh good, now the atheist convention can move to Fukushima and praise the wonders of science,
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:29 AM
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7. Aren't you just full of sunshine today!
Why are you so angry at others, rug? Doesn't your religion give you peace and tolerance?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:42 AM
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8. I'm positively glowing.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:47 AM
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9. Fukushima with Hello Dalai?
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 11:48 AM by Raster
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 11:49 AM
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10. No, I hear it's safe.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 02:39 PM
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16. I think he may be upset that Penn State got one meant for the priests.
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 02:43 PM by cleanhippie
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:14 PM
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17. On the contrary, I anticipate 80% of your post being moved to the Sports Forum.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 10:46 AM
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4. Shouldn't he be able to wave his majick whatever...
...oh, nevermind.

There is no heaven and there is no hell.
There are no gods, no angels, no devils or demons.
There is only our real, natural world all around us.
Religion is but myth and superstition.
Religious conviction hardens hearts.
Religious faith enslaves minds.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 06:35 AM
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11. Gosh ... that sounds so dogmatic ...
> There is no heaven and there is no hell.
> There are no gods, no angels, no devils or demons.
> There is only our real, natural world all around us.
> Religion is but myth and superstition.
> Religious conviction hardens hearts.
> Religious faith enslaves minds.

... almost as if ... no, wait ...

:evilgrin:
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Leftist4Life Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:16 AM
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12. Not to split hairs
I don't think that Buddhism is so much a religion as it is philosophy. And for the record, I think the Dalai Lhama is a actually swell guy as far as "religious" people go. He is at least open to science (he was good friends with Carl Sagan, I think) and Buddhism doesn't preach any kind of creationist myth that Christianity does. He frequently collaborates with scientists and isn't afraid of having things like meditation checked out by scientists.

(Could you imagine what would happen if some scientist wanted to test the communion wine to see if it was really blood?)
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:12 PM
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14. Not to mention
that Buddhists don't think its their mission in life to convert others.. You either are buddhist, or you are not. If you want to become one, fine, if not..fine also. I appreciate the Dali Lama.. I think he's a rather cool guy. I follow him on twitter...and have found him to be always very interesting.

I am glad he went to Fukushima.. There are so many still struggling there.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:40 PM
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13. He'd receive more in a plane
the cosmic ray dose received in a plane at 35,000ft is about 5 microsieverts per hour

http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&Page&HPAwebAutoListName/Page/1262704915658


I highly doubt he thought he was braving anything. He's intelligent enough to know that being there for a few hours is an insignificant risk compared to living there. But it's good of him to go - I'm sure it meant a lot to Buddhists, and maybe others too.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:23 PM
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15. Besides, even if the radiation was much stronger...
...he's going to be reincarnated anyway, right? ;)
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