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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:48 AM
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Jewish leader criticizes World War II pope (event: pope's visit to synagogue)
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 10:50 AM by demoleft
Source: ap

ROME A Jewish leader has criticized World War II Pope Pius XII in a speech to Pope Benedict XVI, saying Pius' "silence" in the face of the Holocaust "still hurts."

Benedict is visiting Rome's synagogue, where Jewish Community President Riccardo Pacifici offered praise for Catholics in Italy who sheltered Jews from the Nazis.
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Several prominent Jews said they would boycott the visit, but applause greeted the pope as he arrived at the temple in the Old Jewish Ghetto, where for hundreds of years Jews were confined under the orders of a 16th century pope.
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The German-born Benedict, ahead of his meeting with Rome's Jewish community, said that "despite the problems and difficulties, you can breathe in a climate of great respect and dialogue among the believers of the two religions, testimony to how matured the relations are and to the common commitment to value that which unites us."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100117/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vati...



the climate was good and the jewish leader said more than just reference to pius XII.
efforts on both sides to heal the wounds, apparently.
in the applause of the people there's a liberating desire for more unity and peace.

everybody's quite tired of tensions of any kind.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:49 AM
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1. Well, yes, Pius XII wimped out. nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:50 AM
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2. Pope Benedict should open the Vatican library to Jewish scholars
and allow them to review ALL the documents pertaining to Pope Pius XII's dealings with the NAZIs and Fascists. Only then will the world know the truth.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:55 AM
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4. i'm afraid he can't afford it. all the local stories of unknown priests who helped...
...and hid people from nazi fascists in little towns everywhere would be just wiped away by a tsunami if the responsibilities of pius XII were published.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:54 AM
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3. Pius XII = Enabler
At at time for a heroic display of courage, the man was a milquetoast

a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, one who was easily dominated and intimidated.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:56 PM
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5. Will future leaders
criticize past American presidents for helping Israel crush the Arabs in the middle east?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:05 AM
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6. Not unless Naziism makes a global comeback.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:12 AM
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7. Nazism, really?
So recognizing something bad that Israel did is now Nazism...wow...
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:16 AM
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8. No, but turning the truth inside out and upside down in a bogus effort to portray Jewish villainy,
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 08:16 AM by Jim Sagle
certainly is. :puke:
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:42 AM
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9. Venture out of your forum, did you?
I'm sure they could use your biting wit and incredible Godwin-like insight over in the I/P forum.

As for me, I will NOT drag ANOTHER R/T discussion into I/P territory. Good day.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:46 AM
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10. No, you will just display your ignorance here in this forum.
Did you even read the post to which Jim replied? Do you understand the "EQUATION?" Probably not.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 02:05 PM
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11. I/P is not "my" forum. It's a filthy disgrace and needs to be shut down.
And I didn't start this I/P subthread, either.
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