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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:42 AM
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Beatings, Rapes And Letters From Popes.....
Pope Will Write Letter To Irish Catholics On Abuse

Houston Chronicle (AP)
Dec. 11, 2009, 7:53AM




VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI says he is "deeply disturbed and distressed" by a child sex-abuse scandal in Ireland and will write a letter to Catholics there on the church's response.

Benedict met Friday with senior Irish clergy in the wake of a report detailing the abuse.

The report was issued last month after a government-ordered investigation into the Dublin Archdiocese. It found that the church shielded more than 100 child-abusing priests from the law.

The Vatican said after the 90-minute talks that the letter to the faithful of Ireland "will clearly indicate the initiatives that are to be taken in response to the situation."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6764998.html">LINK

    For immediate release: Friday, Dec. 11, 2009

    Statement by David Clohessy of St. Louis, national director of SNAP, the http://reform-network.net/?p=2426">Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests
    (314 566 9790 cell, 314 645 5915 home)

    The Pope professes to be “outraged” by horrific, extensive clergy sex crimes and cover ups in Ireland. That’s what his predecessor claimed about horrific, extensive clergy sex crimes and cover ups in the US.
    But claims of ‘outrage’ protect no one. Nor will a letter from Rome to Ireland.

    Instead of writing a letter, we hope the Pope takes action. Action, not words, protect innocent kids and heal wounded victims.

    Specifically, we oppose a papal letter, a papal apology, a papal visit and/or a papal meeting with victims. Such moves are purely symbolic and only lead to premature complacency and assumptions of reform.

    If the Pope genuinely cares, we urge him to
    - oust the Irish papal nuncio who ignored a request to help with the Irish government’s abuse probe,
    - oust complicit church officials who ignored or concealed suspicions and knowledge of crimes,
    - discipline Vatican staffers who ignored the government’s request for help and records, and
    - push for the launching of similar investigations into other dioceses, in Ireland and across the world.

    Symbolic gestures are damage control and public relations, nothing more. Vulnerable children and suffering adults need and deserve real reform.


- Yeah, a letter should do it. You don't want to make a big fuss about.... these kind of things. It's time everybody just forgave and forgot, and moved on. Eh, Bennie?

I mean between policing every uterus in the world and keeping gheys from becoming happily married, I don't no where you'd find the time to deal with this anyway.......

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:55 AM
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1. And here we see the Pope expressing utter outrage over the cover up of pedophile priests:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tP82lct5lSM/R0IETdPbVvI/AAAAAAAABBY/_1SPZQxTVFs/s400/computer+pope.jpg

WTF is wrong with His Holiness? The coverup and this non-reaction reaction are as bad as the crimes themselves. Hideous. Heinous. Just outrageous.

Yes, and they have the nerve to moralize about sex and women's uteri (is that a word? lol).
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 03:19 AM
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4. "WTF is wrong with His Holiness?"
- Off hand I'd say he ain't that holy.





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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:56 AM
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2. are you sure this isn't from the Onion?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:57 AM
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3. isn't bennie one of those who helped in some of the coverups?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 03:33 AM
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6. No, unfortunately it's not from the Onion....
...and yes, Bennie is smack dab in the middle of the cover-ups. He was John Paul's inside guy back when the shit was first starting to hit the fan on all these sexual abuse scandals. Cardinal Ratzinger (his alias before his new gang-name of Pope Bennie), set the tone of stone-walling and obfuscation. Oh, and outright lying when all else failed. And when nothing else could hold back the flood, he went all sovereign on everybody:

Alan Curley, a Chicago attorney representing Mississippi, said Friday that the lawsuit alleged three theories of the Vatican's involvement. Curley said one was that the Vatican directly ordered the priest to get involved; another that it after-the-fact ratified the priest's actions; and the third, called apparent authority, that the priest acted under the trappings of the Vatican.

The Vatican asked U.S. District Judge William H. Barbour Jr. to dismiss the lawsuit on grounds it could not be sued under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. The 1976 act restricts when foreign states can be sued in American courts, although it provides exceptions, such as when the foreign states engage in commercial or certain harmful activities in the United States.

Dale countered that Colagiovanni acted under the apparent authority of the Vatican and those actions fell under the commercial exception. In 2004, Barbour ruled the Vatican could be sued on the issue of apparent authority. The Vatican appealed to the 5th Circuit. The 5th Circuit, in reversing Barbour, said Dale's evidence was insufficient to support the commercial activity exception based on apparent authority. The court said Dale needed to show that the Vatican directed Colagiovanni's activities to advance its case on that issue.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/17/appeals_court_dismisses_one_miss_theory_in_vaticanfrankel_case/


- They're not above using loopholes. Here on earth, as it is in heaven. I guess.....
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 03:28 AM
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5. Oh shit. Everybody hide!
He's reaching for the Pen of Vengeful Wrath!
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 03:40 AM
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7. No, no....
...don't hide, this could work out. He's done this before:



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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:08 AM
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8. Yep, a letter should solve this problem. Once and for all.
:eyes:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 11:22 AM
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9. Oh goody.
A strongly worded letter. That's the ticket.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:18 AM
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10. "deeply disturbed and distressed"
And writing a letter will fix it all.


:evilfrown:

Priests rub me the wrong way.



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