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Would nobody have recognized that the emperor in "The Emperor's New Clothes" was naked...

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-03-09 05:50 PM
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Would nobody have recognized that the emperor in "The Emperor's New Clothes" was naked...
... if neither Adam nor Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?
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   WTF?  geckosfeet   Nov-03-09 05:51 PM   #1 
   so you are saying nakedness is evil or good?  percussivemadness   Nov-03-09 05:53 PM   #2 
   It's a valid question  Euromutt   Nov-05-09 09:11 AM   #8 
   Define "nobody."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-03-09 06:09 PM   #3 
   Many questions in there  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-09 06:13 PM   #4 
   What's the sound  notesdev   Nov-03-09 06:15 PM   #5 
   To crassly accuse the emperor of nakedness ignores a great many things.  laconicsax   Nov-04-09 01:43 AM   #6 
   Given that the emperor was naked due to a con, ...  Jim__   Nov-04-09 01:51 PM   #7 
 
geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Nov-03-09 05:51 PM
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1. WTF?
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percussivemadness (665 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-03-09 05:53 PM
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2. so you are saying nakedness is evil or good?
Perhaps you need to reconsider the meaning behind the whole Adam and Eve story...
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-05-09 09:11 AM
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8. It's a valid question
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 09:11 AM by Euromutt
After all, in Genesis 3:7-13, God deduces that Adam has eaten the fruit of the tree from the fact that Adam is conscious of the fact that he was naked, and was ashamed of his condition. I refer in this context to the incomparable Fry & Laurie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiYhMyRJicc

So given that, without eaten the fruit, mankind would not be conscious of the fact that they were naked, it would follow that nobody in the empire would be aware of the fact that the emperor was naked, since everybody would have been naked, not being conscious of the existence of an alternative. Of course, we can wonder whether there would have been an empire had Adam and Eve not been cast out of Eden.

Genesis does seem to come down on the side of nudity being a Bad Thing, given that Adam states that he was ashamed of being naked, and God does not tell him that it's nothing to be ashamed of, but instead concludes that Adam possesses knowledge of good and evil.
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-03-09 06:09 PM
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3. Define "nobody."
:rofl:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (555 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Nov-03-09 06:13 PM
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4. Many questions in there
Is the Bible fiction?? If not is it literal?? If literal then there would not have been an emperor.
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5. What's the soundUpdated at 5:53 PM
of one hand slapping?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 01:43 AM
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6. To crassly accuse the emperor of nakedness ignores a great many things.
To quote someone else, one who accuses the emperor of nakedness demonstrates a "lack of serious scholarship" and "has apparently not read the detailed discourses of Count Roderigo of Seville on the exquisite and exotic leathers of the Emperor's boots, nor does he give a moment's consideration to Bellini's masterwork, On the Luminescence of the Emperor's Feathered Hat. We have entire schools dedicated to writing learned treatises on the beauty of the Emperor's raiment, and every major newspaper runs a section dedicated to imperial fashion."
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-04-09 01:51 PM
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7. Given that the emperor was naked due to a con, ...
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 01:51 PM by Jim__
... and accepting the premise of the Adam and Eve story, then if neither Adam nor Eve had eaten the apple, the emperor wouldn't have been naked.
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