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jemelanson
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Sat Oct-17-09 03:21 PM Original message |
| Nigerian Children Deemed Witches Tortured |
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Taverner
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Sat Oct-17-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
| 1. DU Christians - take a look at this child's face |
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FiveGoodMen
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Sat Oct-17-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
| 2. +about a million |
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DeSwiss
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Sat Oct-17-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
| 3. +1 |
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jemelanson
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Sat Oct-17-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
| 4. From time to time we hear Christians claim that they are being |
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kwassa
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Sat Oct-17-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
| 8. what do you really know about the Nigerian religious divide? |
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jemelanson
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Sat Oct-17-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
| 10. Why do you try to change to subject? |
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| hokies
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
| 54. But the sky God COMMANDS people to kill witches |
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Dorian Gray
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Tue Oct-20-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
| 90. Yes |
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struggle4progress
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Sat Oct-17-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
| 5. In decades of church-going, I've never heard a sermon about witchcraft; I've never heard |
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jemelanson
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Sat Oct-17-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
| 6. So are you saying that because it did not happen at you local |
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struggle4progress
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Sun Oct-18-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
| 14. I will go through this very slowly, using smalls words. I replied to: "That is Christianity ... |
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jemelanson
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Sun Oct-18-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
| 16. You may consider the torture and murder of children in the name |
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struggle4progress
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Sun Oct-18-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
| 17. Anyone interested, in what I actually said, can read what I wrote. Perhaps simpler grammar would |
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jemelanson
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
| 21. Seems you have a problem with reading comprehension also |
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| hokies
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
| 53. Well, a commandment to kill witches is in the Bible |
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Sal316
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Sun Oct-18-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
| 25. So, DU Christians are responsible? |
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Meshuga
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Mon Oct-19-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
| 47. Thanks for the warning! |
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Dorian Gray
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Tue Oct-20-09 06:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
| 89. Sorry.... |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Oct-21-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
| 148. I see more people denouncing these people's ties to Christianity than denouncing their actions |
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Odin2005
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Sat Oct-17-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
| 7. Religion. Is. Evil. | ![]() |
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Sal316
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Sun Oct-18-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
| 26. How. Knee. Jerk. eom |
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kwassa
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Sat Oct-17-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
| 9. Here is more background on Nigeria's religious conflicts. |
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| darkstar3
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Sun Oct-18-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
| 11. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? |
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Chulanowa
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
| 18. Because every time Christians see their religion doing something they can't excuse... |
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struggle4progress
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Sun Oct-18-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
| 27. Let me say, first, that I have never myself heard it preached in any church that pouring acid |
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jemelanson
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Sun Oct-18-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
| 29. See below three different articles all saying that this was done in |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
| 37. The critical issue for your analysis, and the one you fail to address, is this: if the |
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jemelanson
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Mon Oct-19-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
| 39. What you fail to comprehend is that this was done in the |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
| 42. Let us try again: first the facts, then the analysis. What is happening in Akwa-Ibom? |
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| darkstar3
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
| 52. See #34. n/t |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
| 63. Translation: a detailed consideration of the facts on the ground does not interest you |
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| darkstar3
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
| 68. A detailed consideration is unnecessary in this case, |
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| darkstar3
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
| 50. The problem you miss is that this has happened before |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
| 60. A scientific examination of problems in Nigeria would begin with conditions and events there, not |
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| darkstar3
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
| 66. There's nothing new here! |
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| yodermon
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Mon Oct-19-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
| 73. if they had turned to Buddhism, they would have killed the kid anyway. |
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| darkstar3
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Mon Oct-19-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
| 75. Yeah, I have to disagree |
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| yodermon
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Mon Oct-19-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
| 80. history is replete with examples of infanticide & child sacrifice. No xianity required. |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #80 |
| 83. "Hello, I'd like to have an argument please." |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Oct-21-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
| 147. You're missing the point |
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| rd_kent
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
| 59. Secular law in more developed countries is what has prevented these types of things |
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Chulanowa
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Sun Oct-18-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
| 31. Good for you. |
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jemelanson
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
| 36. Your wild stab is close to the truth. |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
| 38. It is, of course, true that people can (and often do) justify their bad behaviors by lofty appeals: |
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Chulanowa
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Mon Oct-19-09 04:05 AM Response to Reply #38 |
| 44. The thing is, it's not made up out of thin air |
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jemelanson
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Mon Oct-19-09 05:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
| 45. That book tells you a lot of stuff that reasonable people |
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Chulanowa
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Mon Oct-19-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
| 71. I'm aware |
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jemelanson
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Mon Oct-19-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
| 72. I know what your mean. |
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| darkstar3
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
| 51. delete - wrong place |
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kwassa
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Sun Oct-18-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
| 32. and who is doing that? |
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Chulanowa
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Mon Oct-19-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
| 74. You are |
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kwassa
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Mon Oct-19-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
| 81. just to spell it out for you |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #81 |
| 84. 'Who is more accurately Christian, and which belief is more representative of Christianity?' |
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kwassa
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Tue Oct-20-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #84 |
| 93. Only in your opinion. |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #93 |
| 94. I suggest you read up on the fallacy before you call it misapplied, |
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kwassa
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Tue Oct-20-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
| 100. uh, no. |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #100 |
| 111. but is simply one of many definitions of what constitutes a Christian. |
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kwassa
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Tue Oct-20-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #111 |
| 126. You don't understand the fallacy. |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #126 |
| 127. Is that all you have? Projection? Now you bore me. |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Oct-21-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
| 142. Is that a rhetorical question? |
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kwassa
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Sun Oct-18-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
| 33. A faith-based initiative? It is, but not of Christian origin. |
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| darkstar3
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Sun Oct-18-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
| 34. While it is true that a belief in witchcraft predates Christianity, |
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kwassa
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Mon Oct-19-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
| 78. It has to be viewed in context. It doesn't begin and end with Christianity. |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #78 |
| 82. Christians believe in witches too. |
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kwassa
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Tue Oct-20-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
| 101. Very few Christians worldwide believe in witches. |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Oct-20-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #101 |
| 104. Yes, he could have fallen victim to one of the indigenous African beliefs in |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
| 113. But do they put sugar on their porridge? n/t |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Oct-20-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
| 103. This is not any kind of mainstream Christianity |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #103 |
| 112. Does this mean you are denying their Christianity? n/t |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
| 129. Yes, they're syncretists |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
| 131. So who IS Christian? n/t |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #131 |
| 133. Someone who actually tries to follow the teachings of Jesus |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #133 |
| 135. You've made some broad statements here. |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Oct-21-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #135 |
| 137. The Sermon on the Mount is a good start |
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| darkstar3
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Wed Oct-21-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #137 |
| 138. So who picks what is right and what to ignore? n/t |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Oct-21-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #138 |
| 139. The stuff that is internally consistent, as with any set of writings |
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| darkstar3
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Wed Oct-21-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #139 |
| 151. I haven't found anything that was internally consistent yet. |
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| rd_kent
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Sun Oct-18-09 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
| 12. If I am wrong and there IS a god and he passes judgement, I know I am WAAYYY down on the list |
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Dorian Gray
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Tue Oct-20-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
| 91. Of course there are |
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Ozymanithrax
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
| 13. Nothing new here. The Christian chruch has burned witches for.. |
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Chulanowa
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
| 19. Nah, the "burning times" are a myth |
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jemelanson
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
| 22. And some say the Bible is all myth. |
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Chulanowa
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
| 23. Maybe you should read my post and not just the title? |
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Ozymanithrax
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Sun Oct-18-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
| 28. You are right. I was merely pointing out that Christians have murdered other people... |
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DeSwiss
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Sun Oct-18-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
| 15. It is my considered opinion, that Christians DO NOT risk denouncing..... |
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struggle4progress
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Sun Oct-18-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
| 20. Are any churches in your neighborhood advocating pouring acid down children's throats? |
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| tiny elvis
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Mon Oct-19-09 03:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
| 43. you are not killing witches because your religion's power |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
| 49. I'm not killing witches because I do not believe in witchcraft and I do not believe in violence |
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| rd_kent
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Mon Oct-19-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
| 57. Perhaps instead of saying "well, me and MY church are not doing this" you should get proactive |
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struggle4progress
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
| 62. I shall defer to your self-righteousness and will allow you to explain your understanding |
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| rd_kent
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
| 67. self-righteousness? Im not a xtian, no one is killing people under the banner of non-belief of god |
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kwassa
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Mon Oct-19-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
| 79. Actually, it rests on the shoulders of all human beings, not just Christians. |
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| rd_kent
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #79 |
| 95. There is no discussion to walk into. |
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kwassa
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Tue Oct-20-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #95 |
| 109. You create false parameters. |
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| darkstar3
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Tue Oct-20-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #109 |
| 119. Clearly?! |
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kwassa
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Tue Oct-20-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #119 |
| 125. You mistake persistence for an argument. |
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Dorian Gray
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Tue Oct-20-09 06:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
| 92. So as a human being |
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| rd_kent
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #92 |
| 96. No, not what I am sayiong at all. |
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Dorian Gray
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
| 98. Okay... |
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| rd_kent
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Tue Oct-20-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
| 99. We will just have to disagree. |
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Dorian Gray
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Tue Oct-20-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #99 |
| 105. I don't think that we'll see that in our lifetime |
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| tiny elvis
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Mon Oct-19-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
| 76. can you not recall? |
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struggle4progress
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #76 |
| 85. The links you provide contain no actual references to witchcraft allegations in daycares but |
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| tiny elvis
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Tue Oct-20-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #85 |
| 86. yes they do |
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| tiny elvis
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Tue Oct-20-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #85 |
| 88. do you really not recall the allegations of satanic rituals even now? |
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struggle4progress
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
| 97. Your 2nd and 3rd links in #76 contain neither references to witchcraft nor to satanic rituals. Your |
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| tiny elvis
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Tue Oct-20-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
| 108. made you look |
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struggle4progress
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Tue Oct-20-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
| 120. oops. assumed i was conversing with an adult. let's try again after you're out of middle school |
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| tiny elvis
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Tue Oct-20-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #120 |
| 121. sayeth the lord |
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| rd_kent
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Tue Oct-20-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #121 |
| 124. you are a douchebag. |
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| tiny elvis
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Sat Oct-24-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #124 |
| 164. because you were ][ this close to winning before i got douchey |
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| Lydia Leftcoast
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Tue Oct-20-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
| 132. Another thing about "Satanic abuse" |
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DeSwiss
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