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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:36 PM
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How many things can you do in 5 minutes?
It dawned on me last night that we live in a really crazy world right now. We can send files across the world in seconds while video chatting with the people you are sending them to while checking the news on your phone. We are living in a time where we take in so much information in five minutes that it would make peoples heads explode just 30 years ago.

I dont hold it against ex-Senator Ted Stevens for thinking the Internet is a series of tubes. In-fact I call the Internet the tubes. My feeling about the Internet in the view of consciousness is that it is really just streaming collective consciousness. We view the news of everyones thoughts and experiences at any given moment in time and space.

This begs the question: What is our collective thought right now? Currently it is we are in a shit storm. So what happens when we decide to change that thought? It is my belief that if we so choose we can change that consciousness. I am not suggesting we fake our news to make it positive. I am suggesting that if we took 5 minutes to hold one positive thought, it could make a difference. It doesnt have to be world peace but it could be. It could be how it is going to feel when you have a job again. It could be the birth of your child and how that felt. It could be anything that makes you happy. Have a great 5 minutes if you choose, or possibly a great day.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:40 PM
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1. Count the angels on the head of a pin. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:42 PM
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2. I'm a mother.
'nuff said.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:45 PM
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3. I don't know if you're famiiar with Pierre Tielhard de Chardin.
He was a Jesuit priest and paleontologist of the early 20th Century who talked about the "noosphere," analogous to the biosphere. The noosphere, in his conception, is a web of consciousness surrounding the earth and knitting us together as a species, a sort of superconscious entity that he postulated as the next step in evolution. I think the Internet is working out to be the physical structure of the noosphere.

And yes, I think that there is something to your idea of a collective consciousness, just as there is to the Jungian notion of the collective unconscious. If you want a real trip, read Richard Tarnas's books, Passion of the Western Mind and Cosmos and Psyche.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 05:07 PM
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11. And from Encyclopedia Galactica comes the following:
The Noosphere

Cybercosm based discussion forum employed by various transingularity minds to converse and perhaps argue about those questions and issues that are of long-term or theoretical interest to minds at SI:1 and above.

Multiple communication hierarchies and conceptual process support nodes allow the Noosphere to host users across the entire range of S-levels. Although the vast majority of the conceptual structures generated within the 'sphere are beyond baseline or superbright comprehension, it is rumoured that such ideas as the nature of the universe, its origins, and its possible future are but some of the topics 'discussed'.

The Noosphere is one of the oldest nodes within the Cybercosm and is even believed by some to have its roots within the 'Internet discussion group' of the early and mid Information Age. Total active membership at any given time is estimated to be around thirty-three trillion although this number is uncertain due to the great flexibility of the definition of 'individuality' among many of the higher level members.

Todd Drashner




I do know of that priest and I thank you for the titles and reminder to look him up and be one of the 33 trillion connected out there :D
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 01:49 PM
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4. Well said... that is the change WE get to create...
Edited on Sat Mar-07-09 01:50 PM by FirstLight
I know things are bad, I know we're going to hell in a handbasket...but I also know that it is times like this that assist in our ability to make quantum leaps ahead in ways we have not imagined...
we CAN find a better way to make fuel and get from here to there and free ourselves
we CAN help our neighbors and maybe even start a neighborhood garden
we CAN build our community and learn how to be beter people with one another

Let's take a break from the negativity and the BS and the current "spin o' the day"

Let's Raise the Bar and Raise our Consciousness...
There are enough of us to make a difference
Butterfly's wings, et al....

Breathe in relaxed, hold for a second, release
try that seven times and see how you feel...
Kick & rREC
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:17 PM
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6. Right on FirstLight!!!!!
Lets keep raising our consciousness until we are able to hit the "critical mass" manifesting change.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 04:22 PM
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9. You are right
you can choose to look at the dark clouds or the silver lining. For me, I'm happy when our Foundation is able to help someone figure out what is wrong with their health. I'm glad that I can find good clothing from a thrift store that is stylish and fits. I'm so very glad I live close enough to work that I can walk. I'm glad that I know why, right now, I feel so lousy--has to do with a health issue that is being taken care of and will be taken care of with adjustment of medication. (So even something that some might view as "bad" can be viewed in a positive light.)
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:00 PM
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5. I agree!
Edited on Sat Mar-07-09 02:12 PM by Howler
Our INTENT in thought,interaction with the planet, every living thing on it,,each other,ourselves Can change the whole paradigm we are currently prescribing to.Even the stock markets are a measure of consumer confidence. It goes up and down based on peoples perceptions and attitudes. Change the intent,Change the thought, Change the paradigm.
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 03:44 PM
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7. Have you seen this? Global Consciousness Project
also known as the EGG Project. It's been producing some interesting data.

http://noosphere.princeton.edu /

Enjoy! :hi:
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:47 AM
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17. Oh Wow!!!!! THANK YOU Wovenpaint!!!!!!!!
That so totally rocks!!!!!!!!!!I will sending this out Email to all points!!!!!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 04:19 PM
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8. Yep. It's all about attitude
Ever notice how if you have a horrible attitude you seem to have horrid things happen or other folks with horrid attitudes come your way? Or if you have a positive focus, you find things more likely to go your way and you meet folks smiling at you?

Five minutes every day is a good start in shaping that positive attitude. But you can continue it every minute of the day as well. When you find yourself looking at gloominess, check your breath. Is it normal? Probably not. What you can do, right at that moment, is to focus on getting your breath back on an even keel. Once you've done that, check back with your emotional outlook--very probably it has changed back to peacefulness or positivity or what it was before.

We've all heard the old saying, "When you're mad, before you do anything, count ten." What you really are to count is ten breaths--and make them even inbreaths and outbreaths. Why? Because it changes your emotional outlook.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 04:29 PM
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10. agreed. n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 05:19 PM
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12. Did you see that episode of Doctor Who as well?
:-)
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 05:21 PM
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13. I've never watched Dr. who. n/t
:)
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 07:07 PM
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14. Excellent post, NOW tense.
That's part of the strategy for manifesting desires, is to actually feel and see yourself having it in pure bliss.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 10:25 AM
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15. Thanks. n/t
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 11:28 AM
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16. I'm making a little progress
All my keys fell into the river yesterday and somehow I managed to maintain some equanimity............

Live in the present. "Sufficient unto the day" and all that.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:18 PM
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18. Eckharr Tolle's books are somewhat similar in intent.
Consciousness.

I've just turned off my power for the day. (I don't have electricity for another few months) And I'm running off to go on a bike ride. But I have spent quite a lot of time thinking of this subject. How it required centuries of discovery to arrive at this moment in time when we are of nearly a collective mind. It's pretty amazing. I would say it's good.

This morning I was searching for pvc conduit. I'm doing an underground service entrance on my property, for power. Craigslist had some white pvc pipe at $1 per foot. I am using it for power, which uses the gray pvc. I wondered if white was usable. I got on Google, and my first search yielded the answer. Gray has a higher temperature tolerance. White cannot be used for electrical. I'm old enough that I have seen both worlds. My first attempt at college had us using slide rules. My second time to college was the first year computers were used for class work. Before the internet, that pvc question might have taken a full day or more to answer. I'd have had to contact someone personally to ask the question.

Sadly, and this is my life story, where we are in the world's population has me running for a place to call home that is silent and beautiful. I was thinking this morning that I would gladly go back to a slower and more boring time. I remember the old men I've met who had ranches, who sat on tractors and tilled fields, and who didn't have fancy restaurants downtown. Just a lousy little diner. And no shows, or good television. We have all of those things now. But in order to arrive at our present level of technology, it required a larger number of people. Newton was one of the first to really jump ahead into the realm of subjects that truly advanced society to the point where we could land a human on the moon. Getting back to the "sadly" part, I would give it all up in a heartbeat. I've just spent nearly 20 years running and running from town to town and state to state in order to find that place that isn't overridden by cars and humans. I'm sick. I'm just destroyed. I can't find it. Even the places that used to be wonderful are no longer. Big boxes, subdivisions, cars, noise, and in small towns like the one I just left in Oregon, the supporting industries are screaming away, ripping up the landscape. Like logging, or mining.

I'm sure I've wandered off topic, but I'm looking forward to going backwards.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 02:33 PM
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20. My, my, my...
:hi: What a disappointment you've been through these past 20years :( Perhaps that's what the OP is intending, for us to stop the run around and for 5 minutes just hold one positive thought. For me it began with a few minutes to longer to where I hold that tone through the day. Sure, it's taken about 10 years to get here but there have been amazingly good changes in life that comes with it, just by simply pivoting from negative to positive thoughts moment-by-moment.

I didn't know when I held the tone for peace that I'd be moving to a small town (California, not too far from you) that actually fights with nails and claws to keep big boxes and anything but the local avocado and plant nursery industries from moving in. So places you imagine do exists in this day and age and there are tons more in my county.

So perhaps in looking forward to going backwards, you can imagine that place in pure positivity 5minutes a day and see if more insights for your perfect place starts to flow in. Just a thought.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 08:41 PM
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22. Yes.
That's exactly what I've been doing. I am highly sensitive and selective about my environment. That's part of why I've had such a hard time. But the reality of things is that I'm quite far from poor. I own a property that most people on the planet would die for. In fact, it wasn't too many years ago when I finally became independent from work that I realized that money was not the solution. But it seems that some of us have higher levels that need to be met in order to be satisfied. Actually, what you are saying is almost what Eckhart Tolle says. And it transcends situation. Today is a finite moment. There is one thing that surprised me when I realized it. Here I was full of resentment and anxiety. Yet in retrospect I realized that I had been quite lucky. I've owned a smorgasbord of real estate. From modern architecture to a tumbled down trapper's cabin in the woods. And never has there been a more revealing time than now. People are finding themselves in situations that are grim.

I never liked the phrase don't worry be happy. But I have to admit there is something to it.

It's easy to let fear take over. Especially when one has a keen vision. Much of what I am upset about is stuff that is now coming to the light of day, the world over.

Argh, dinner is ready. And I am totally beat up from a day of mountain bike riding. So...


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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:35 AM
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23. Your comment reminds me
Do you remember the study that most people laughed at that happiness is contagious?
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE4B400H...

Paradoxically so is fear. I recently heard someone say "it is like we have an influenza of fear". That statement is very true. We trap ourselves in a fear based world because it is contagious and addicting. I used to think that fear is easier to see than happiness but it isn't true.
Humans can smell fear
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/0903061425...

This is not a huge surprise we are animals after all. I would not be surprised that this is partially why the law of attraction works. If I am in the mindset of fear, people can unconsciously sense it. They are attracted to it also, unconsciously bringing what that person is sending out.

I am sure we can smell happiness too.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 12:58 PM
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26. I'm really starting to see this.
I spent many years in a state of dread. And I think part of it is habitual. Now I am watching other people. And I finally see for myself what is attractive and not. Attractive isn't really the right word.

I'm learning. I'm a very slow learner. Now I am careful to expose any negativity unless it's fully warranted.

And I spend a lot of time on a European forum where artists hang out. Unbelievable stuff. They had a tinfoil hat contest last night that was hysterical. I once lived in a house with some outrageous comics, and we died laughing every night. I miss those days. At least I know how it feels.

But life can get one down. It doesn't take much misfortune to do. However, misfortune is often good fortune in disguise. In retrospect I have had a colorful ride through life. Not what I wanted, but probably even better.

Cheers.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:52 AM
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24. Gregorian
My husband is from Bandon Oregon. What beautiful country!!!!!He was raised out on ranch that sat on a hill that is still in the middle of nowhere.
But it is gorgeous!!!The meditations I had out there Whew!!!!We went to into Coos Bay and Coquille (spelling) I'm talking breath taking.But the most beautiful and mystical place I have ever been to ANYWHERE is The Sea lion caves whoa!!!!!Have you ever been Gregorian??
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 12:51 PM
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25. My last property was in Coquille.
It almost killed me. And yet I may return some day. I had the nicest property in the entire area. A beautiful and historic farm. Unbelievable. But by night, the logging trucks whined down the roads. I didn't sleep for two years. And the neighbor was logging his place which had equipment at night. Just dreadful. I have been so saddened by what I see as the ruination of this country. But people want two by fours to build houses with.

However, it's the most beautiful place around. And Coquille is like 1950. Old men in the corner barber shop at 7am. I loved it. And my trip to the grocery store was glorious. I even have a photo journal of it.

I've been eyeing some fairly large ranch property in Port Orford. But I decided to stay where I am for the time being. I cannot continue dragging my life from state to state.

Life is complex. And I think part of my problem has been minor health issues. Even though I'm athletic, I've been suffering. I may finally be conquering it though. And days like today I feel like the world is beautiful despite what I've been through. So having said all of that, I think there is still hope for us all.

And thank you so much for posting what you did. Such kindness. And it's uncanny that you would mention that area.

Cheers.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:11 PM
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27. Gregorian!
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 01:13 PM by Howler
LOL!!!! Talk about a small world.
My Husbands uncle probably owns that Barbour shop you mentioned.He owns one in downtown Coquille.
And My husbands Brother lives in Port Orford he is a teacher .
He works with children who have Autism.
I absolutely love that area. I know what you mean about it staying unchanged since the fifties. LOL!
I went into one of the down town bars ( Bills Place)to have a drink and it had spitunes set out for the used chewing tobacco.
It didn't have stools to sit on at the bar to discourage women from coming in to drink. LOL!!!! Didn't keep me from coming in HHHHOOOOOWWWWWLLLLLLL!
I ordered one of the local brews Yummy!!!!And the people were very friendly and open. :)
We live in Dayton Ohio. My husband misses Oregon tremendously. Every time we go to visit I literally cry like a baby having to leave that ocean behind.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 05:03 PM
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28. That's funny.
I could talk a while on this subject. But since I don't have electricity here yet, I'm typing on a laptop, and it's pretty difficult.

I'm having a dilemma. I grew up in the San Francisco area. It was nice. But it turned into concrete. I was really hurt by that destruction. Although lots of people seem to think it's wonderful. There is a part that is good. The variety. The progressive people. It's highly intelligent. Although I often call them intelligent idiots. Coquille was like a step backwards. That can be good or bad. I personally couldn't tolerate the Bush mentality. Everyone thought that Iraq was just the greatest war. And Saddam is the one responsible for 9/11. Now I'm basically back in the San Francisco area. But there are too many people here for my taste. I'm stuck. As a single man, it's nice to be within driving distance to my mom and dad. I felt like a fish out of water in Coquille.

Getting back to this thread, in a way, I think that just letting things be as they are for now is the best thing. And besides, I've decided to build a house. And what a house it is. I've designed a place that will probably end up in an architectural magazine. So I'll be busy. But unlike Coquille, I have the San Francisco flight path overhead. I guess it's one thing or another. But I'll live here until I decide to try and find that real estate nirvana.

I've always been a perfectionist. I find it hard to be happy with things that aren't just right.

You know, it's pretty neat that you know the area that I just left. I was actually back in the hills behind Coquille in an area called Fairview. You may have been there.

Who knows, maybe you'll end up where you love it. I know how you feel not wanting to leave the coast. It is a long way from your present home. But you never know...


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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:39 AM
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30. Gregorian.
I totally understand you feelings of alienation from some of the conservative aspects of living in small coastal towns.But there is alot of different people of more liberal leanings living in the area to.At least in the middle to late nineties there was.I am also aware there are alot of racist and survivalists out there to.Sigh! But I say Hey lets not surrender the really good real estate to these idiots. They certainly don't know what to do with all that beauty and mysticism that resides out there in that land!!!!
I mean you gotta be either really stubborn or really stupid to hold onto a rigid RW ideology or a racist and bigoted view in the face of all that Majestic landscape and vitality that the land itself exudes out in Coos bay, Bandon, and Coquille.Seriously folks.

Fairview is where my husband's sister had a horse ranch. Silly wench sold it.If I had owned it no one would've been able to pry the deed from my cold dead hands. LOL!!! I 'd of stayed around even after I died to haunt that landscape!!!!

The house your building sounds Beautiful!!!! I hope you will share photos when the building is completed!!!

God forbid you should ever find yourself in Dayton But if by chance you ever do I would be happy to introduce you into the liberal enclaves here. I would also take you down into southern Ohio to show you some very lush and beautiful landscapes there.The air is very thick and sweet smelling here during the warmer months And when the fire flies are doing their dance its Lovely . And Autumn here in some places can even rival Vermont's.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:40 AM
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31. There isn't enough time in one life.
In a way I've been lucky. I've often joked that I was like Kerouac. I toured the west coast via real estate.

I've often wondered about other places just in this country. My mom grew up in Connecticut. In fact, her relatives built a house there in 1648, and to this day it's still in the family. Same name. That's what I miss, is the stability. I watched Harold and Maude last night. And I almost died. That's where I grew up. I partied in the house in the background when they come out of that church. I drove those roads on the coast when they were silent. I'm dreaming. That's the past. I just can't let go of it. To me it's dignity. I can't even go back to my home town of Palo Alto. I won't.

It's another gorgeous day today. I'm making my minestrone soup. So I had better get going before it's time to run off to the architect's.

I love this forum. It's people like you who bring this world down to a smaller, more friendly size. Fairview. I even had my own cemetery on the property. With Daniel Boone's relatives. It's ok. We survived Bush. We'll live for another day.

Thanks so much for your kindness.

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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:33 PM
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32. Gregorian.
Yes We did!!!! Bush is hopefully just a memory now!!!!LOL!!!!!

WOW!!! 1648!!! Did your folks come over on the Mayflower?
Now I'm going to have to watch" Harold and Maude "again to get a glimpse of your old stomping grounds.
Enjoy your soup, The day, and your architect.
I still really hope you will post or PM me some pictures of your house when its finished. :)
I love the folks on this board to.


BTW family cemetery's on the family land must have been common in Oregon because The ranch my husband grew up on also had a cemetery.
Though it certainly didn't have any celebrities like Daniel Boone or anybody like that.Thank god because his mother would have been insufferable. LOL!!! (Did I just say that)Rut Row!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:14 PM
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33. The soup came out great.
I made around five gallons of minestrone.

The architect was a bit frustrating. I'm trying to design a house out of steel. It's not simple. And architects aren't used to clients who have too many ideas. Plus I'm nervous about the cost. It's getting scary.

Here is the concept, at least. I'm supposed to be figuring out windows in the next few days.


I had no idea Harold and Maude was such a great film. It's about life, death, love, society, psychology. But so fresh. A free spirit who transcends it all. She steals cars just to get around. Sort of how it should work. I guess that would be something akin to a communist culture. I don't know. I think it's one of the under rated films. I had a pretty wild youth back around those years. It's amazing what we forget until reminded. I miss those days. Although getting kicked out of college the first time around was a catastrophe.

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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 10:02 AM
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34. Oh Snap!!!! Thanks Gregorian.
Love All the windows!!! The ones closer to the ceiling will let in glorious glorious light.Very cool! Can't wait to see the finished house.

Oh yeah I remember" Harold and Maude "

You were a wild one. Getting kicked out of college. Snort! good for you!
I think for some of us A year off between high school and college is a positive thing.
We can explore the world on our own terms which quiets our curiosity and restlessness a bit and makes it much easier to focus when we return to academics.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:57 PM
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19. KICK for the sunday morning crowd...
For those who are watching the news shows and getting their blood pressure jolted, etc...

more thoughts on seeking the consciousness of HOPE, Peace and what we are greateful for. Because ALL that gratitude only creates more abundance of spirit!

:ohm:
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 04:56 PM
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21. Our lives as they are right now is somone else's theory of how life should
be lived. We can change that.. but it takes an elevation in psyche. Its hard for some to shred off the idea that their lives have been pawns and they've been played. My mother is having a hard time with the whole notion of her life being wasted; the dream and life she was sold was a farce. For me, I've recognized for a long time that it was all wrong... Just need to work on making it right.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 01:09 AM
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29. Lots....just don't ask my girlfriend what I can do in under 5 minutes. Seriously. Don't You'll ruin
my DU reputation.
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