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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:40 AM
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And the protestors come to Olympia
'Winter solstice' sign brings hundreds of protesters to Capitol

Several hundred people rallied Sunday at the state Capitol to protest a holiday display inside that provoked a national outcry by disparaging religion and declaring there is no God.

The "winter solstice" sign sponsored by the atheistic Freedom from Religion Foundation calls religion "myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds."

An organizer at Sunday's rally, Steve Wilson, said outrage over the display was growing, and that it was offensive to people of all faiths.

"When it comes to disparaging my faith on public property, that's where I draw the line," Wilson said.


The article continues at http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/391032_capitol08.ht...

Wilson seems like your typical Christian ignoramous, in that he is ignorant (or oblivious or just plain does not care) how often the beliefs of atheists and anyone else who does not subscribe to his brand of snake oil are disparaged not only in public -- street corner preachers, televangelists using public airwaves -- but from court rooms, legislative chambers and the offices of government executives.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:48 AM
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To protest against Zeus?
Or for him?

Seriously, I thought this would be a story about some revival of the Greek gods, from the headline and it being in this forum.

Maybe someone should put up a sign saying there's a thunderbolt awaiting anyone who touches the sign.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:48 AM
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1. Has anyone offered a truce?
If they take down ALL offensive displays that would resolve the issue.

Has that even been discussed?

Eventually it will come to that. Why not sooner rather than later?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:51 AM
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3. How about they take them all down and burn them
Then this guy could get all upset about that.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:58 AM
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5. I don't care what they do with them
But use of public property is an all or none right. If the theists want to put up their display, ALL displays must be allowed.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:50 AM
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2. Don't be similarly ignorant,
and recognize the difference between 'organized religions' and athiesm etc.

I am agnostic, have always been, and have always recognized that my 'belief' is unorganized and unusual; I assume all the 'risks' inherent in that fact.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:01 AM
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6. What does that have to do with it?
Are rights only given to organizations?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:09 AM
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7. I wasn't talking about 'rights;'
I was referring to people calling others 'ignorant.'
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:12 AM
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9. I still don't understand your point,
but I care a lot less now than I did a few minutes ago.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:17 AM
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11. Where, in my post, do I need to make such a distinction?
I speak of two mutually exclusive groups: those who believe in and accept Wilson's religion, and those who do not. I put atheists into the second group. Was I incorrect in doing so?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 09:57 AM
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4. It's that scary first amendment.
SCAAAARY! SCAAAAAAARY!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:11 AM
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8. If not 'scary,' at least controversial!
Imagine holding a vote on it today? In or Out of the Bill of Rights????
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:13 AM
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10. Why not hold a vote on it?
I means, if the religious extremists can eliminate my right to be married, why shouldn't they be allowed to eliminate my right to believe and practice whatever faith (or lack thereof) that I wish?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:18 AM
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12. That's exactly why
NO VOTE ON BILL OF RIGHTS!

Its not understood, and its not popular.
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