Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Which is more creative? Science or Religion?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU
 
Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:41 AM
Original message
Poll question: Which is more creative? Science or Religion?
And for discussion throw in the question of which inspires more creativity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 08:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. What is the point of this poll.
Both are human endeavors with profound effects on mankind. Both have inspired people to produce great work. This is not a quantifiable question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. It is seeking people's opinions on the matter and trying to engage in discussion on them
If you think they both have had profound effects on the creative thinking of human kind then by all means say so. Others may think that one or the other are creatively stagnant. Some may think they are inspirational. Thats the point of the poll. To find out how people see the two.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Hahahah! You rock.
Man. Brilliant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:25 AM
Response to Original message
3. Depends on your definition of "creativity".
If you define it as artistic creation, one can argue that religion has had a strong influence on art, music, architecture etc.
If creativity is finding novel ways at looking at something ---say discovering that germs cause illness vs. demons or through observaion of birds bills understanding how natural selection works...I would say science.
I would say like beauty, creativity is in the eye of the beholder, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. That is what they inspire... but what about whether they themselves are creative
Is religion itself creative in nature? Science?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. That makes no sense
these are human constructs that are used to see the world. Neither is "creative".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. So you are saying there is no creativity or imagination involved in the scientific process
Interesting. You seem to be at odds with Einstein on that one as he suggested that Imagination was more important than knowledge. It seems to me based on your conversation so far that there is a great deal to discuss on this subject. Certainly a great deal of difference of opinion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. No.
I said that you are asking which is more creative. I said they are human constructs which both foster creativity. But to debate which is more "creative" is silly.
Who was more creative, Michelangelo or Einstein? It's a silly question.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. I think you are missing a step
Einstein was creative in his practice of science. Michelangelo was creative due to his inspiration of his religion. In practicing his religion he was adhering to doctrine which in itself is noncreative. But his doctrine could inspire him to be creative.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Since religion is all
just made up fantasy, I don't see how it is not creative.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Fantasy may not be appropriate to all iterations
But I will agree that the initial creation of the religion is creative (assuming the doctrine was not handed down by a divine authority of course). But after that it tends to go stagnant. Once a doctrine is established it becomes quite set in its way. While science embraces creative rethinking of ideas and theories.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
9. Since only science can create the tangible then clearly that is the answer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:01 PM
Response to Original message
12. I'm going with both.
The scientific method requires the scientist to think creatively and come up with new theories and new ways to test them.

Religion requires the faithful to find the right personal path. Part of that path is using all of the person, including every talent and skill, to the glory of God(dess, gods, enlightenment, etc.). Religion has led to great works of art, new forms of government, the study of history, and even science itself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Darth Lenore Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:06 AM
Response to Original message
14. Depends on which religion(s) you're talking about. eom.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 01:18 AM
Response to Original message
15. Science gets my vote !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
16. Both.
Science is REALLY creative. If you lack in imagination, you're never going to be a scientist....you may be a lab tech, I suppose, but you need to be able to create and adapt and visualize if you want to do research.

Religion is also creative. Just ask a religious person why god hates amputees. Or why a good god allows evil. Or any other reasonable question. You'll get really wild creativity.

Science is the use of creativity in finding answers. Religion is the use of creativity to make shit up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-08 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
17. Religion is revelation; science is searching.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:29 AM
Response to Original message
18. I never saw any tensors describing the bending of space in religion, so I will guess science.
Ooooh living copolymers & light unflavoured muons.

But really, when you hear that you need enough lead to reach 1/3 of the way to proxima centauri to attenuate a neutrino signal, and then you want to measure them and their energies, you better get creative. No really, neutrinos go straight through the earth and everything, little bastards they are. (And they do other fun stuff and have specific helicities and are found near violations of symmetry and conservation laws. Fun!)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:42 AM
Response to Original message
19. Religion creates something from nothing
Science only reveals that which is already there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 06:56 PM
Response to Original message
20. Religion wins hands down
No one could look back on so many centuries of theologians and religious apologists of all stripes and faiths coming up with the most outlandish ways to explain the unexplainable and to justify the unjustifiable and not marvel at their endless creativity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:38 AM
Response to Original message
21. Art.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 04:09 AM
Response to Original message
22. Religion of course...
they have to be creative, after all, the entire bases of religion is fiction. Not good fiction either.

Science, discovers and has not need to make shit up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CampLo Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:51 AM
Response to Original message
23. No matter your disdain for religion
you can't deny it inspired some of the greatest paintings and sculptures ever. pretty crap music though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:31 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. Religion was also responsible for destroying some great art,
and some great artists.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 02:32 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC