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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:32 AM
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"I know I'm somebody, because God don't make no junk."

Ever heard somebody say that? I've heard it. If it works for somebody--well, whatever gets you through the night.

But to me it has a distinctly hollow ring to it. If I'm trying to pep talk myself, to say that to myself would be worse than useless.

If nothing else, my first thought is, and what about the mass murderers of history, serial killers, white collar criminals like Ken Lay, Andy Fastow and Tim Belden, and so on?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:40 AM
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1. Ken Lay, and the others you mention made CHOICES, sexual orientation is not a choice
At least I don't believe it is for most folks. I never made a *choice* to be attracted to men, just always have been. I never made a *choice* not to be attracted to women sexually, I'm just not. The thought of sexual intimacy with another woman just doesn't get me hot & bothered.

We choose how to act, we don't choose our sexual orientation.

And my silver haired 80 y.o. mom (devout Catholic) *always* uses the saying "God doesn't make mistakes, and God doesn't make junk" as part of her defense of GLBT rights.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:08 AM
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4. What are you talking about? "sexual orientation is not a choice"
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 09:10 AM by raccoon

I agree, it's not a choice.

But where did I say anything about sexual orientation? :shrug:
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:12 AM
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5. sorry - as I said, my mom uses it when arguing for GLBT rights. I've never actually heard anyone
use it for anything else so I assumed that was what you were referring to with the quote.... (as usual, my assumption made an *ass* out of me....)
my bad -

:dunce:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:16 AM
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6. No hay problema! nt
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:19 AM
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7. Makes sense to me
You don't have to apologize- it's only natural that you'd make that connection. Didn't bother me any.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:48 AM
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2. To say nothing of
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 08:49 AM by izquierdista
Anencephalic fetuses, spontaneously aborted fetuses, spina bifida, cleft palate, congenital heart defects, a host of trisomies, etc. If man (in the form of birth defect doctors) wasn't around to repair God's handiwork, the pile of junk that God "don't make" would be a lot higher.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:16 PM
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10. Would you call that "junk"? nt
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:00 AM
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14. Thats quite a harsh view
birth defects do not make someone "junk".
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:06 AM
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3. I would rather see...
...a person saying what you quoted and having this use for the word "god" instead of seeing a person using the word "god" in in order to do something evil. All power to him if it gives meaning and worth to his own life.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:15 PM
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9. I can remember seeing that saying on a poster
of a young African American boy - obviously in the inner city and impoverished.

As a child, it worked for me. The message came across quite well.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:49 AM
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8. You remind me of something I read
in one of Dan Savage's books (I think it is in Skipping Toward Gomorrah). He was talking about a friend of his that puts printed affirmations around her home, for her and others to happen on. Dan makes fun of the idea, saying he does stuff like walk up to one of the little bowls she has with these in them, picks one up to read and says, "I am Pol Pot. 'Everything I do today will bring peace to myself.'"
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:17 PM
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11. I think the point is that each individual has intrinsic worth
and judgements made on account of skin color - or gender or sexual orientation or any of the stupid reasons we find for casting other people as less than ourselves - are pointless. Each person has value.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:59 PM
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12. Everybody is a different mix of DNA
So everyone is somebody

But that's a little different than made by invisible cloud dude.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:06 PM
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13. The point is that each human has intrinsic worth simply by being human. I would hope
that is not an issue of contention.
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